Lawlessness in Lanyon Valley

riotrossco 26 January 2008 76

2:22am this morning (Friday 26th January 2008), a golf ball enters my dining room window, showering the dining, kitchen and family area with glass, a quick call to 000 has me believing the police are on their way to alleviate not only my fears but that of the 4 children in the house ranging from 8 years to 19.

Forward 18 minutes (2:41am) and a car is dispatched to check the local area, forward 34 minutes (3:15am) the car arrives at the area and does not see any persons of interest wondering the streets.

Now around 4:00am I call the police (hence the details above) and am told my initial call was booked as a disturbance. Now this incident did disturb me and my family but it was far from that. What if the perpetrators had continued their barrage on my property or other properties? I was given the above details and a job number by a young constable, he also re-entered the call as “Property Damage”

During this time, my second eldest (18 years) and his friend who is staying over (19 years) went on their own search for the perpetrators and happened to find them at the local Woolworths service station. My boys overheard their conversation where the perpetrators laughed about it “The Ball” going through a bedroom window. These people thought they were hitting the bedroom window where my 8 and 13 year old sleep, and were happy about the damage they caused.

We have obtained a partial number plate and description of the vehicle; alas the police said there was nothing they could do, very ineffective.

Tonight I don’t think I’ll sleep as I am concerned the perpetrators will return, tonight I’ll be ready to take the law into my own hands, I know a call to the police who are meant to Protect and Serve will be a waste of time and effort as it seams Lanyon Valley is a neglected part of Canberra in the eyes of the law.

Any law abiding citizen of the Lanyon Valley would surely agree that police presence here is lackluster.

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76 Responses to Lawlessness in Lanyon Valley
Special G Special G 7:22 am 03 Feb 08

Now for the double post.

I heard of a crazy old woman who hassles the kids from Dickson College as they catch the bus from near her house – in return they play pranks on her and have done for years.

Riotrossco – Are you the Lanyon Valley crazy old woman?

Special G Special G 7:19 am 03 Feb 08

Madman – you need to go and have a closer look at the patrol zones of your local plods – head down to Tuggers station and they will tell you which copper is directly responsible to your suburb. Then complain accordingly to them.

They told me so on the add.

riotrossco riotrossco 4:25 pm 02 Feb 08

Thank you all for your comments… Now some of my own..

A call to triple 0 was made as an impulse, I was very happily sound asleep and to suddenly be woken by screams of shock from my family took me into auto mode… hence believing the worst had happened.

This is not the first time this has happened. Some 8 months ago, a VB bottle came hurteling through my kitchen window at about the same time, again showering the family, dining and kitchen area with glass (and to the individual who made comment about such areas being small to cover that area, go and pitch a hard object through one of your windows and examine the shatter effect for yourself (get a clue))

I would like to thank all who have made sensible, unbiased and usefull comment to this thread.

I have installed safety measures to my property to deminish the possability of further damage, this I hope will give my family a sense of peace and protection, as I know surely the ACT police under the controll of Canberra’s biggest looser (stanhopeless), will not be offering me, nor many other families across the ACT, any peace and protection for a long time to come.

caf caf 9:35 am 01 Feb 08

Does anyone know if cop shops are directly provided by the ACT Government, or are they provided by the AFP under the output-based contract to supply policing?

nyssa76 nyssa76 8:28 am 01 Feb 08

The problem has been allowed to fester for years.
So build a cop shop. It ‘might’ change.

madman madman 11:51 pm 31 Jan 08

But you do have to accept that Lanyon Valley does not have a neighbouring police station other then Tuggeranong….

If you lived in Kambah you would wither get a tuggeranong or a woden patrol. If you lived in Bruce, you’d either get a Civic or Belconnen patrol.

But unfortunatly there is no police station below the suburb, therefore yes… the response times are very slow, I agree.

Lanyon’s crime rate is rising very fast.

Like the bus stop at the shops… the glass has been broken on that 9 times now!

JackW JackW 11:12 pm 31 Jan 08

OK, “a golf ball enters my dining room window, showering the dining, kitchen and family area with glass”

Gee. Either the golf ball was the size of a gigantic award winning super-duper melon, or you have one mighty small “dining, kitchen and family” area in your house.

Triple O ???? Pfft. Heaven forbid you ever become involved in a real emergency. Who you gonna call then … the glass repair dude?

Danman Danman 1:59 pm 30 Jan 08

Good point Mael, never really thought about that, but its true to say that perceived danger is usually surplus to “actual” danger – but if a citizen feels the need to dial 000 then the respective authority has a responsibility to attend and alleviate such percieved or real danger.

In saying so AFP are like nurses in that they have plenty of infrastructure, they just do not have the workforce to occupy it to its full capacity.

Mælinar Mælinar 1:51 pm 30 Jan 08

Hang on a little on the perspective here.

If I was awoken from a dead sleep – as is likely to happen circa 2am in the morning, by all kinds of noise, broken windows and shit flying everywhere, I’d strongly consider an auto-reaction of 000 JUST IN CASE.

OK, a golfball through the window is a minor event, but for all you know at that time it could be a home invasion, or even a car through an inconvenient part of your house – you really don’t know cause you were asleep.

Then you do a recce and find out it was a golf ball through a window, and report this, including probably, a pretty reasonable description of the offenders. You really don’t deserve a fob off from the coppers, ideally if they were going to do nothing about it, they wouldn’t let that little snippet out to the victims.

I do think it is poor policing to leave a member of the public feeling they are unprotected by the law, I’m sure I’m not alone in this thought.

It’s not really about the golfball, it’s the sense of security that should be afforded to all citizens by the provision and practice of law. In this case, I feel they have been let down.

Fletcher123 Fletcher123 11:51 am 30 Jan 08

A ball throught the window? My god, wtf’s got into kids these days – no respect at all. I blame it on video games and violence on tv. I don’t blame you for wanting to take the law into your own hands, in fact you should smash their heads in with baseball hats. In fact, any kids wandering the street after midnight should be locked up, they’re obviously looking for trouble(sarcasm meter >11). Get some perspective, man.

Bludger Bludger 4:41 pm 29 Jan 08

Apologies for bad spelling and grammar in previous comment…

Bludger Bludger 4:37 pm 29 Jan 08

What if the offenders were at the front door with a screw driver attemping to wrench the door open, were busted by housemate, front door was jamed from them dodgying up the lock then 2 housemates giving chase. Getting a number plate from the car that was previously parked out the font with the 3 crims trying to invade our house. I’m not trying to be a cop here or tell them how to do there job, I made a suggestion to get fingerprints as they were clearly obvious on our front door. I think being able to offer information to the police is better than nothing. They don’t seem interested either way. I was very interested to know if they caught these guys because an attempted home invasion is pretty bloody scary.

Special G Special G 4:24 pm 29 Jan 08

Ah the home CSI show – the offender touched my woolen jumper, there is bound to be fingerprints and DNA on it.

What do you think fingerprinting the front door is going to prove – that the person came to your front door – thats about it – easily explained in the ACT courts by – I was looking for my friend and got the wrong house. Description – not good enough by the time the fingerprints come back.

What are you left with – nada, nothing, nichts and dumbarse cops.

Mr Rat – you sitting outside your house in your driveway is probably a good deterant, especially if you are working on your golf swing that night – bit paranoid if you ask me though. Go down the local cop shop and ask them how many cars on the road they have each night, then work out – (hours in the night minus attendance to cats in trees jobs divided by number of streets in Tuggeranong = time each car have to drive down your street)

If you don’t like this whinge at your local MP for more Police.

howdy howdy 4:20 pm 29 Jan 08

One of the worst drivers I’ve encountered on country roads was the cops, at dusk.
Tailgating on a windy potholed road, refusing to overtake. Causing serious concern given they were so close that their headlights were often barely visible behind us. To do what? Try and push us to speed over the wrong section of road, even though we were 10-20ks under? Or maybe they were waiting for a sudden 60k zone we didn’t see cause we were more concerned about the idiot behind us?

When we got to a T junction and they eventually passed we were peeved to find out that the idiot was a cop car. There to protect us right? Prevent road fatalities, of course! Or run people off the road in a bored attempt to raise a bit of revenue…

Bludger Bludger 3:58 pm 29 Jan 08

“Some say we shouldn’t blame the police themselves, it’s the system’s fault. Some of the police ARE total dumbarses though – the ones who came and investigated my burglary sure were”.
popgoescanberra — 28 January, 2008 @ 10:53 pm


We had to suggest they get forensics to fingerprint our front door after an attempted home invasion. They were happy to leave with just one witness statement. We gave them a full plate (probably stolen though), desriptions and a whole door covered in fingerprints, so lets hope they caught them.

Deadmandrinking Deadmandrinking 2:13 pm 29 Jan 08

NSW = Hopeless.

mikey mikey 1:57 pm 29 Jan 08

Proving again two of the laws of nature.
1. Jetski owner = moron
2. NSW = hopeless public services

Deadmandrinking Deadmandrinking 11:55 am 29 Jan 08

Skid…yes, oh my god yes. My mother and I were heading back from Batemans Bay at the end of the long weekend when, first, she was tailgated by this f-king arsehole in a commodore with a Jet-ski trailer on the back. He overtook, but later caught up with his mates in similar vehicles, all with Jet-ski’s, on the side of the road somewhere just before the Clyde (birdies and observations of masturbatory habits were exchanged as we drove past).

They came back just as we were along the thin stretch of road towards Braidwood. Double-lines, a queue of returning holiday makers that resembled something you’d see in Sydney; all three morons decide it’s okay to speedily overtake for far longer than anybody should be on the right-hand side of the road, then suddenly squeeze in different positions with literally centimetres between the cars in front of and behind them and I’m thanking God for my mum’s braking ability. We thought ‘f-k it, might as well report these bastards for dangerous driving once we get into braidwood – for everyone sakes before someone gets killed.’

The Jet-skiing trio of cretins had stopped at the Cafe in Braidwood, so we drove further on to the cop-shop. It was unattended, but there was this automatic-button thingie that put you directly in touch with the call-centre, so we used that. We told them what had happened, gave our names and descriptions – then they hung up, no ‘Okay, we’ve got that down’ or ‘we’ll deal with it’. F-k knows what they did, but they obviously didn’t seem interested in seriously nutcase drivers who were putting more than a few holidaymakers at risk. We did see a cop car headed in the cafe’s direction, but didn’t see what happened – basically a toss-up between talking to the morons and merely being on patrol. The call-centre operator was rude and that was definatley not the way anyone representing the NSW police should be treating the public.

Skidbladnir Skidbladnir 10:51 am 29 Jan 08

ACT Policing on 131 444 is less likely to get you dismissed as a nuisance caller.

There used to be a number for the ACT Policing Radio Room direct, which I can no longer remember.
(02) 6256 7777 is the ACT Policing switch, who can also put you in touch with anybody you like.

000 is onlyfor immediate danger and offender still in area, or serious major incident.
Hint: If the ladies on the other end of the line hang up on you (or do not try to talk you out of hanging up), its not important enough to be using 000.

Stainless Steel Rat Stainless Steel Rat 10:33 am 29 Jan 08

Special G, A fair point that I do conceed, but I have stayed up until three am more than ten times sitting in my driveway and have still seen neither… As I indicate above, I understand in the scheme of things this is pretty minor and doesn’t justify a full scale alert, but some visible presence might actually deter whoever it is.

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