Looking for Zeal1, graff tagger.

Example: http://the-riotact.com/?p=28049&cpage=1

pandaman. Are you volunteering for the controlled violence experiment or would it be better to just impose it on you vigilante style.

Simple for simpletons.

LSWCHP said :

I’m glad you got your car fixed up OK.

Some hoody wearing hat-backwards scum keyed both sides of my car near the Labor club in Belco a few months ago. I tried the cloth and cutting polish route suggested by Captain RAAF, but the scratches were too deep. Repair quotes were all the size of telephone numbers, so I had to suck it up.

What really shit me though, was that they’d also fiddled the valves on my tyres to leak slowly, evidently hoping that me, my elderly parents and my wife who was in a wheelchair at the time would all be killed when I lost control and crashed.

If I could find them, I’d make them cry.

Wow, so these low lifes are not only okay with vandalism but also with manslaughter. I hope when you find them you do more than make them cry.

Where the hell was “manslaughter” mentioned?

Fgzk, it’s really quite a simple premise these guys are putting out there. The ability of certain minority elements within our society to commit criminal acts to the detriment of others with almost total impunity is unacceptable. They have proposed what I believe to be a potentially effective solution. If you catch someone committing an illegal act to your detriment, and you have the capability to deliver them a moderate amount of physical pain with relative impunity, followed by some advice as to why it is not in their best interests to continue this behaviour, it’s entirely possible that this will be a more effective deterrent than reporting said illegal act to the police, making a statement, testifying in a court of law, only to see the bugger get off with, oh for example, a stern talking to and a fine which they will never bother to actually pay.

Physical pain is the original method of negative reinforcement, and some would say the best.

LSWCHIT Before you run for election on your law and order platform you might like rethink your fantasy and quest for power.

Violence is power. As the great Isacc Newton pointed out every force has a equal and opposing force.

“But regarding violence,” G.O. and Mr Churchill where both referring to meeting violence with violence. Not meet property damage with violence. I know its a subtle difference but its an important one. Its made a little more disgusting with the chance that you are actually asking for violence against children.

Your military officer is absolutely right unless you control the application of violence you risk losing control. In a military situation where there is a clear threat of death or injury to persons, meeting violence with violence is a fact of life/death. Controlling the violence to overwhelm your “enemy” is essential to stay alive. But once again its about physical harm to a persons rather than property. Maybe next time you see him, ask him his views on tribal violence in Afganistan. You could also argue our military have been involved in protecting the property of the US……the worlds oil reserves not the lives of civilians. Regardless ours is a civilian world.

Police are faced with violence every day. They are well protected and armed. They move in groups. They can kill you if you do not comply. They apply enough force to neutralise the opposing force. I don’t think they need much more protection from the community than they now have. Maybe Tooks can explain to you how the police apply force, not violence, to arrest a suspect. Then Tooks can probably find the odd examples where excessive force has been used….”violence”….that has simple escalated a situation to where out of control damage is done to all. Not the kind of damage that can be repaired at the panel beater.

No-one has put your precious family at risk buy tagging your car. Statistically your family lives are far more likely to be at risk from a violent family member that has violent fantasies. That would be you. You need to take your medication or move to Afganistan.

We could do an experiment with you and the CaptRuff buy applying controlled violence against you for a week and see if we can change your violent fantasies. What do you think the outcome would be?

Good luck with preselection.

Lswchp. Sorry your defiantly a wanker.

fgzk wrote:

fgzk said :

You lot are just a bunch of violent thugs or fantasist’s, I cant work it out. Never liked violent thugs, turds most of them. You could find his tags and paint over them, in pink dicktation.

You’ve grouped three quite distinct character types together. These are violent people, thugs and fantasists. Thugs are what they are. It is best to avoid them if possible. Fantasists are harmless, simply because they are involved with fantasies, not reality. I could be described as a fantasist, as I have a variety of fantasies. I’m pretty sure I’m no different to the majority of people, although I have no scientific evidence to back that claim up.

But regarding violence, there is a great line that I’ve seen attributed to both George Orwell and Winston Churchill: “We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm.”

It’s something we, as a society, tend to brush into the corners, but occasionally Violence Is OK. I attended a professional seminar recently where a military officer described his line of work as controlling the application of violence upon the battlefield. This is pretty standard stuff, and nobody present indicated that they thought this was a bad thing.

Closer to home, cops rousting drunk brawlers in Civic on Saturday night probably need to apply a little violence occasionally, and I think that’s OK too. I would prefer they did so rather than having them (the police) end up in hospital while trying to protect us.

I can think of thousands of other examples.

And I acknowledge that it’s extemely unlikely that I’ll ever find the random crowd of stinking little shits who, for their own amusement, vandalised my car, and put my life at grave risk, along with the lives of my wife and my parents. These people have really pissed me off, and if I did locate them I’d like to think I’d find it within myself to apply a little violence in their direction without feeling too bad about it. You gotta draw the line somewhere.

Or maybe that’s just another violent, thuggish fantasy. You decide. 🙂

I saw on the news the other day that some place in Victoria has passed a by-law that fines property owners who don’t clean up graffiti on their property.
There’s an interesting way to deal with the problem… fine the victim.

You lot are just a bunch of violent thugs or fantasist’s, I cant work it out. Never liked violent thugs, turds most of them. You could find his tags and paint over them, in pink dicktation.

Their tag is their reputation, if their reputation is identified and they have to face the financial consequences, they won’t want to put their tag anywhere. I really believe there should be a law passed to garnish fines and compensation from oxygen thieves who deface our property. Once they are hit in the hip pocket, it certainly takes the joy out of spraying their tag everywhere.

Four Twenty.

And no, angry people, that wasn’t a serious post.

Criminals ARE scum, though.

LSWCHP said :

If I could find them, I’d make them cry.

Capture and tie them up somewhere, then post up their coordinates here for everyone to see. No doubt some of the people who have been the victims of criminal scum will find a way to amuse them.

UrbanAdventure.org said :

I have noticed that ivy on fences and walls does a brilliant job of deterring vandals. Even on the legal wall down in Woden there are some bits where the ivy is growing all over the wall and old art. Nobody has bothered to paint over the ivy or remove it. Even if they did paint over it, it would still gow over the paint soon enough.

Not much help for a van though.

As for Mr Zeal1, I’m pretty sure I know who he is. I’ll leave a message for you at Saint Bennys with his name and address. Overall he was a nice enough guy last time I knew him years ago. I figure if you ask nicely he’d prbably refund his costs. In other words, play nice with the info I pass along.

Yeah play nice, but only after you have got your money back, some cash for your trouble and have cut his hands off and shoved them up his lowlife bumhole.

Ooops…the car vandalism theme caused the red mist to settle in, the voices in my head started talking to each other, and I think I hijacked this thread.

My apologies.

I’m glad you got your car fixed up OK.

Some hoody wearing hat-backwards scum keyed both sides of my car near the Labor club in Belco a few months ago. I tried the cloth and cutting polish route suggested by Captain RAAF, but the scratches were too deep. Repair quotes were all the size of telephone numbers, so I had to suck it up.

What really shit me though, was that they’d also fiddled the valves on my tyres to leak slowly, evidently hoping that me, my elderly parents and my wife who was in a wheelchair at the time would all be killed when I lost control and crashed.

If I could find them, I’d make them cry.

Chief Minister’s Chief of Staff?

I mean he’d probably refund your costs. Doh! Curse dyslexia!

I have noticed that ivy on fences and walls does a brilliant job of deterring vandals. Even on the legal wall down in Woden there are some bits where the ivy is growing all over the wall and old art. Nobody has bothered to paint over the ivy or remove it. Even if they did paint over it, it would still gow over the paint soon enough.

Not much help for a van though.

As for Mr Zeal1, I’m pretty sure I know who he is. I’ll leave a message for you at Saint Bennys with his name and address. Overall he was a nice enough guy last time I knew him years ago. I figure if you ask nicely he’d prbably refund his costs. In other words, play nice with the info I pass along.

Our place has a long high fence along one side, no grafitti as of yet, but I’m waiting.

I’ve always believed you should be allowed to grafitti anyone caught defacing your property with their squiggles.

A coat of spray paint in their hair and over their skin should suffice to let them know you do not approve.

My congrats too, Homeless – good onya!

If you find this dickhead I suggest the insertion of at least a dozen cans of his favourite vandalism tool, without benefit of lubrication. Post the photos here.

try some of the clubs around town – i think he’s a country member. remember?

good luck, homeless, and seconds to csri’s congratulations on the job front.

Years ago I owned a white WRX and some graffiti bandits thoughtfully spraypainted ‘WRX’ in pink stylised cursive script on the back of it for me. They didn’t even write ‘sux’ after it.

“And if you are reading this ZL1, you owe me $420.”

I’m guessing ZL1 isn’t much of a reader. Best of luck with finding the sod.

This reminds me of another graffiti ars@hat, “Mine Cent” who tagged my house a few years ago – if only I’d thought to put something on RiotAct to try and track him down and tag him for the $320 it cost to remove and repaint. Good luck on your quest, Homeless.

Soft cloth and some automotive polish and you could have saved your self $400. Rookie error!

Even Brasso would have done the job. Next time, consult with us directly before you toss fities around like they is going out of style!!!

colourful sydney racing identity said :

More importantly, I am glad you found some work – hope it goes well for you.

+1, although now I know who you are, that $420 bill must have taken a dent out of your savings 🙁

More importantly, I am glad you found some work – hope it goes well for you.

Helpful Tip: Stake out under the bridges just before the turn off to Harvey Norman in Fyshwick, below Ipswich Street and the Monaro Highways. It wont take long…..

I hope you took photos of the damage. You could probably sue him for wilful vandalism of private property.