More mobile cameras set to patrol Canberra's speeding hotspots

Nigel Milton how about place it before the fixed cameras and get all the flogs who slow down to 10 under the limit!

John Carroll either side then

Nigel Milton why are you worried about them? It’s their risk to take. It’s the unnecessary slowing to 20kmh under the limit before a camera that’s most likely to cause an accident!

Mon Noremac they do it in Conder too on Tharwa Drive. Just means you’ve got to ride the brakes more.

Michelle Butt I know and maximise the people the catch that take their eyes off the speedo for a second. They also hide in blind spots. It shouldn’t be allowed

The best way not to give them your money is to do the speed limit.
It’s really not that hard.

😂 flew by and thought this said “Not an Aussie if your doing the right thing “

Andy Anderson you’ve got no idea about traffic engineering, have you Andy? And neither do any of the people who ‘liked’ your comment.

Paul they literally raise millions every year in revenue

David Brown if you don’t speed you don’t get fined. Why is that so hard to understand?

Greg Oakes looking at the road is more important than looking at the speedo. Driver training is more beneficial. And where is the anti tail gating campaign on telly?
And red light/speed camera combo is the most dangerous idea ever. Who wants to be looking at speedo at a bust intersection ffs.

Rod Yeo If you don’t have an idea of how fast you’re travelling without looking at the speedo then you definitely need more training.

Greg Oakes what nonsense. You shouldn’t need to look at your speedo for at least 100 meters before an intersection. Making MOST people look at there’s is dangerous. And you are lying if you’re saying you don’t take your eyes off the road and look at yours.
Tailgating, mobile phone use, slow in right lane are far more important issues for safety.
The right lane comment is in regards to the dangerous stuff it makes people do behind in traffic.

I know exactly why people are fined. It is because speed limits are regularly set just below the normal speed for a road. In this way the revenue is maximised.

David Brown The speed limits are pretty standardised – 40kmh in school zones, 50kmh for suburban streets, 60kmh suburban thoroughfares (suburban driveways on major streets), 80kmh on arterial roads (no driveways), 100kmh on the parkway, 90kmh on GDE.

Greg Oakes I’m not sure the speeds are that standardised in reality. My wife was done on Longmore Cr thoroughfare in Wanniassa at 56kmh (it looks like it should be 60km and has 60km speed signs on its adjoining roundabouts, But Longmore itself is not signposted at 50kmh, but I guess you have to assume it’s 50kmh). Some other major arterial roads bounce around 70, 80 and 90kmh seemingly inconsistently. Monaro Highway is all over the shop. Touchwood I have never had a speeding ticket, but I can understand the confusion.

That is irrelevant. They are set low all across the country for exactly the same reason. $$$$$$

Steve Lemon No revenue raising or cost cutting methods ever are. The typical voter seems to only care about fluffy good news spending 🥰

and now – four more years of spending on the inner north and inner south!

Woo! Spending! #afterpay

#electricScooters #Trams #RapidMassTransit (that is neither Rapid nor Mass)

Kurt Halbauer phone use??

Barry Howard things not policed by the very useful “road safety vans”…

Lauryn Roberts How do you figure that? They’ve had specialised scanners to catch unregistered vehicles for years now

as a co- parent… that keeps their car registered .

Lauryn Roberts using a false equivalency to put hate on someone? Probably not the forum hey?

Why is it hate if they choose to let rego lapse regularly?

What does it have to do with mobile speed vans?

Because they apparently use rapid? But possibly only if your speeding? I find it hard to believe all the times these cars have been unregistered they have t gone thru a speed camera or past a speed trap. Great if they weren’t Speeding but frustrating it’s not picking up unregistered cars . When it’s apparently only ‘illegal’ if your caught..

I don’t believe ACT Policing have many vehicles with ANPR (Automatic Number Plate Recognition) or RAPID (Recognition and Analysis of Plates Identified) fitted.. well they’d have to be on the road to pull them over..

Lauryn Roberts how do you know cars are unregistered?

High speed crashes have been shown to be bad for your health.

Ollie Williams Yeah, what government needs money?!?! I mean we’ve got way too many schools and hospitals already. The government should pay people for driving like fuckwits. It’s exactly what Canberra needs mor of.

Rusty clearly you nor Rob know what the PACER Programme is about. ACT accidents involve speed but distracted and fatigued drives along with poorly educated drivers are a much higher risk. Update the driver licensing process wirh better training and accident numbers should go down. Speed cameras are easy revenue and have rarely been shown to improve driver behaviour.

Ollie Williams People get caught speeding enough times lose thier licence. That has a pretty drastic impact on their driving…….since they plain can’t do it. Besides, I love knowing that selfish scum drivers are paying for the Territory’s services. I’d like one of those vans on every street!

Rusty that’s your opinion, Sutton Road is a great example 3 speed zones and only 80kmh in ACT section because they couldn’t meet the road design standard after failing to do the survey properly it’ll get patched for years but they still love sitting a van where there is no evidence of accidents…

Ollie Williams but there is evidence of speed limit signs.

Edgar Sharp yep and the majority voted this mob back. Just keep opening your wallet

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Wow, sounds like the cameras are working!

Rob Thomas Yeah maybe we should get some murder cameras instead

Edgar CCTV? Sure, more in the right places would be good.

Increased driver frustration? About breaking the rules and getting penalised for it? Oh, the poor sods.

Edgar Sharp ‘Per person we were fined twice as much as NSW people last year, and our road toll rate was a 1/3 of theirs.’ Duh!

Matt Jakab Speed limits have been reducing around the ACT as car technology has drastically improved. ACT road quality is improving too. Everyone is being forced to drive slower and slower for less and less purpose, and being fined a disproportionate amount. At what point will people like you accept that constantly increasing speed fine revenue is not in the interests of the people?

Peter Gamble So why do we need more cameras? How many deaths were actually caused by speeding drivers last year? From what I could find, possibly none. The main issue seems to be fatigue or lack of driver awareness. Having people slow down and stare at their speedos will only make those problems worse

Michael Chant Well technically they are a minority government soo…..

Edgar Sharp the fines are entirely voluntary. So is the loss of demerit points. Most people don’t accept the revenue raising argument anymore given the penalty also includes loss of points. Speed limit reduction in specific areas helps to make roads safer for all users in those places, lowers the number and severity of accidents and thus the direct and indirect costs to the community (health care, wages, productivity, insurance premiums etc). Is that such a bad outcome?

Matt Jakab I don’t disagree with your point but i think the penalties are disproportionate. I think the government has a tendency to go after easily policed low hanging fruit because they know the public won’t have a hard time accepting it, but that’s essentially nonsense policy.
If the government needs more revenue (and they do), then call it that and open a real discussion on the topic. Hiding behind the vail of safety is a cowards way of pressing an agenda

Edgar Sharp do they actually have fine revenue targets? Is there any evidence for this? I imagine there are forecasts based on historical trends but I’m doubtful there is ever any reliance on it. This will be of interest: https://www.whichcar.com.au/news/where-speeding-fine-revenue-is-spent

Matt Jakab I didn’t really suggest it’s just revenue raising. I know alot of people chant that because it’s an easy line to remember, but I don’t. I don’t actually have a problem with a government “raising revenue” because I accept they have to somehow, but what I have a problem with is poorly considered priorities and cowardly political spin on these sorts of things in lieu of proper discussion and consideration.
For example, would you accept higher fines in return for cheaper rates? (Or visa versa) Or cheaper rego as a reward for a good driving history? Or rego included in fuel cost as a tax to incentive more efficient cars?
I’d love an opportunity for governments to test and consider these sorts of things, but they don’t because it far easier to stigmatise “speeders” as evil people and fines as the only possible protection to the good people in society

Edgar Sharp revenue?

and domestic violence callouts were on the up and up….

Matt Jakab not about the penalties. It’s about the idiots in 80km zones who see a camera, slam on their brakes to get 20kmh under the speed limit and have the potential to cause massive carnage! That’s the frustration.

Edgar Sharp 100%. Couple that with having the very high rates, cost of living, registration and licence fees (potentially the most expensive in Australia) and it becomes evident that the legislature Canberra didn’t want is just raking in $$$ for more ill conceived spending (but I am a tram supporter!)

Matt Jakab it May have an impact on severity but I’m led to believe that after an initial lull, the number of accidents is increasing.

That’s being attributed to the road system being dumbed down to such an extent that it promotes inattention.

I believe I’m a safer driver at 100kmh than 60kmh because my focus on the road is much better. Might go do some research on it, must have been 1000 scientific studies on driver attention span!

Matt Jakab good article but I think the point of the fines being a self licking ice cream is lost in your argument Matt. A significant element of the ‘road safety’ re-investment discussed in the article is around higher spending on what? You guessed it, more cameras?

NSW raise $150m odd and promptly reinvested 20% back into cameras and enforcement. When will enough be enough?

And I continue my point around driving slower doesn’t equate to driving better. That’s a complete nonsense.