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New Scania buses for ACTION

By johnboy 29 November 2011 24

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Chief Minister Gallagher has announced (dated 27 November but only online this afternoon) new buses for the ACTION fleet.

a contract has been signed to purchase 20 new accessible, articulated, large-capacity and environmentally friendly buses for the ACTION fleet.

“Following a thorough and exhaustive tender process, Scania Australia has been selected to provide ACTION with the Scania Euro 5 easy access articulated buses, which will be the first new articulated buses in Canberra for over 20 years,” the Chief Minister said.

It is expected that the buses will carry up to 105 passengers and will be progressively delivered between July 2012 and March 2013. They will be used on high volume, high frequency routes across the ACTION network.

A team of ACTION fleet, driver and workshop representatives this month performed a pre-production test of the buses to finalise the specifications.

“The new buses are the latest available from the manufacturer, are fully accessible, climate controlled and low emission, and will help make public transport a more attractive alternative to driving a car,” the Chief Minister said.

“These replacements will be part of the ACT Government’s commitment to achieving an accessible fleet target of 55% by December 2012.

Custom Coaches have more on the purchase:

The new buses due to be delivered between 2012 and March 2013 will replace the existing articulated buses in the ACTION fleet. ACTION Buses Strategic Fleet and Capital Projects Richard Matto, says that ‘the Scania articulated buses will replace the oldest of the 33 Renault bendy buses which Action has had in service for 23 years. The remaining 13 will be replaced at a later date’

The ACTION CB80 Artic will be built using state of the art technology at the Custom Adelaide plant, using CB80 city bus bodies and design. Custom has extensive experience building & designing articulated buses including most recently supplying South Australia’s DPTI bus fleet with CB80 Artics.

[Photo Courtesy Custom Coaches]


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damien haas 2:02 pm 30 Nov 11

fromthecapital said :

I caught a bus this morning in lieu of riding my bike (don’t worry rioters.. I own a private car and pay all applicable taxes). One thing I noticed compared to my previous life in London is that the stop buttons are few and far between and sometimes hard to access on action buses. Also it would be much more efficient if passengers could exit at the back at every stop.

A circular went out to all drivers earlier this year advising that passengers can now exit from the rear door, at any stop, upon request.

thatsnotme 1:28 pm 30 Nov 11

Very Busy said :

Currently, all 33 existing articulated buses are used every weekday for school services. The reason that they are sometimes used on expresso services is due more to convenience rather than passenger volume. Several drivers operate shifts that include school services aswell as expresso services and they don’t go back to the depot to change buses.

Fair enough if they’re all used then, but my Expresso service (the 703) would often not cope with a normal bus – it’s frequently standing room only, with a lot of people in the isles, on an articulated bus. It’s a very popular service (by Canberra standards anyway!)

miz 12:54 pm 30 Nov 11

The extra long buses were a disaster as they could only be driven on main Canberra roads (too big to turn without hitting people, etc).

They were cheaper than artics (I understand the greens made the govt get them because they were cheaper) but they were a false economy as they are pretty useless and a waste of money.

fromthecapital 11:42 am 30 Nov 11

I caught a bus this morning in lieu of riding my bike (don’t worry rioters.. I own a private car and pay all applicable taxes). One thing I noticed compared to my previous life in London is that the stop buttons are few and far between and sometimes hard to access on action buses. Also it would be much more efficient if passengers could exit at the back at every stop.

Very Busy 11:30 am 30 Nov 11

thatsnotme said :

Very Busy said :

“They will be used on high volume, high frequency routes across the ACTION network.”

“will replace the existing articulated buses in the ACTION fleet”

Given that the existing ACTION articulated buses are predominantly used on school services, these two statements contradict each other.

If the new articulated buses will replace the old ones, and the new ones will be used for high frequency routes, how will the high volume school services operate with fewer available articulated buses?

Some of the Expresso routes use articulated busses too – I’m glad to hear that there will be new ones purchased, I was wondering how everyone who catches my Expresso would fit onto a regular bus!

You’re also assuming that all of the current articulated busses are out on the roads every day, and that all of the old ones will be retired. It wouldn’t surprise me if once all of the new fleet is in, that the newest of the old busses still operate for a while.

Currently, all 33 existing articulated buses are used every weekday for school services. The reason that they are sometimes used on expresso services is due more to convenience rather than passenger volume. Several drivers operate shifts that include school services aswell as expresso services and they don’t go back to the depot to change buses.

BicycleCanberra 11:23 am 30 Nov 11

Very Busy said :

Given that the existing ACTION articulated buses are predominantly used on school services, these two statements contradict each other.

If the new articulated buses will replace the old ones, and the new ones will be used for high frequency routes, how will the high volume school services operate with fewer available articulated buses?[/quote>

This would be a waste if the new articulated buses are used for school runs. I think it is time that the government outsourced buses for school runs as to concentrate on its normal routes with higher frequencies.

thatsnotme 11:01 am 30 Nov 11

Very Busy said :

“They will be used on high volume, high frequency routes across the ACTION network.”

“will replace the existing articulated buses in the ACTION fleet”

Given that the existing ACTION articulated buses are predominantly used on school services, these two statements contradict each other.

If the new articulated buses will replace the old ones, and the new ones will be used for high frequency routes, how will the high volume school services operate with fewer available articulated buses?

Some of the Expresso routes use articulated busses too – I’m glad to hear that there will be new ones purchased, I was wondering how everyone who catches my Expresso would fit onto a regular bus!

You’re also assuming that all of the current articulated busses are out on the roads every day, and that all of the old ones will be retired. It wouldn’t surprise me if once all of the new fleet is in, that the newest of the old busses still operate for a while.

Very Busy 10:49 am 30 Nov 11

“They will be used on high volume, high frequency routes across the ACTION network.”

“will replace the existing articulated buses in the ACTION fleet”

Given that the existing ACTION articulated buses are predominantly used on school services, these two statements contradict each other.

If the new articulated buses will replace the old ones, and the new ones will be used for high frequency routes, how will the high volume school services operate with fewer available articulated buses?

Lazy I 9:54 am 30 Nov 11

Waiting For Godot said :

Isn’t SAAB/Scania almost broke? Not exactly the best investment to make.

Are we back in 1921? i’m confused. Can you link to your source, or does adding a question mark to the statement mean you don’t need to research it? Not exactly the best statement. to make
http://www.scania.com/investor-relations/company-overview/financial-history/

Scania Year-end Report January-December 2010
Operating income rose to SEK 12,746 m. (2,473), and earnings per share rose to SEK 11.38 (1.41)
Net sales increased by 26 percent to SEK 78,168 m. (62,074)
Cash flow amounted to SEK 11,880 m. (5,512) in Vehicles and Service

http://www.scania.com/Images/Scania%20Year-end%20Report%202010_232063.pdf

Not to mention they are largely owned by Volkswagen and MAN.

Doesn’t sound like a company that’s ‘almost broke’ to me.

I for one welcome the SCANIA buses.

KB1971 9:50 am 30 Nov 11

Waiting For Godot said :

Isn’t SAAB/Scania almost broke? Not exactly the best investment to make.

SAAB was owned by General Motors & have not been apart of Scania for some years. Scania is a strong compaby with a strong market presence in the world market, Europe in particular.

SAAB have been unloaded by GM after the GFC hit & there were no takers so they announced that they were going to dispand the company. Somebody else has come to the party I believe.

SAAB are actually an aeroplane manufacturer & were way before they built cars.

A quick google though reveals this reported yesterday (or today as the case may be…):

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/news/8924038/Saab-GB-goes-into-administration.html

I this form SAAB themselves:

http://newsroom.saab.com/news/news/swedishautomobilenvissuesthirdquarter2011tradingupdate.5.6b70d8f7131ef59e7497ffe843.html

Anyway on the subject of bike racks & buses, the standard length for a rigid vehicle is 12.5M, almost all large rigid buses are built to this length, the ACTION buses are very close to this so the fitment & use of a bike rack makes them overlength or close to it.. The tag steer buses are already over dimension in their standard format (14.5m) & require special approvals to be built & use on public roads. ACTION being a goverment department have done this in conjuction with the ACT RTA.

The maximim length of an articulated vehicle is 19m, the articulated buses are old tgechnology that has been around for ages & the tag steer is relatively new to buses (has been used on low loader trailers for years). An articulated bus does not need a special approval as they are geneally well under 19m.

Technically there would be no reason that an arctic could not have a rack given the standard dimension but I cannot see it happening as I think the drivers would be against it. It would also have to still be able to turn in a 25M radius with the rack down.

Bus specs can be found here:

https://www.action.act.gov.au/about_us.html

DarkLadyWolfMother 9:09 am 30 Nov 11

I thought Action bought the extra long buses to replace the old articulated ones? Or have I got things confused as usual?

qbngeek 8:52 am 30 Nov 11

Henry82 said :

Hint: It’s to do with turning corners without wiping out cars, poles, people. 🙂

After seeing two people in two years get taking out by the mirrors on turning buses in Woden while standing on the footpath waiting to cross the road, I think they may need to think about a mirror redesign as well.

Waiting For Godot 8:19 am 30 Nov 11

Isn’t SAAB/Scania almost broke? Not exactly the best investment to make.

Henry82 11:30 pm 29 Nov 11

Bussie said :

Pretty sure the Australian Design Rules or whatever the relevant standard is doesn’t allow bike racks on long buses (or possibly any buses as there’s allegedly something against things protruding from the front of vehicles)

Hint: It’s to do with turning corners without wiping out cars, poles, people. 🙂

Mumbucks 10:46 pm 29 Nov 11

Turn the old buses into quality green back packer style accommodation. Forget about water .

BicycleCanberra 10:13 pm 29 Nov 11

Bussie said :

The capacity could be increased by having fewer seats but I doubt Canberrans would like that. A higher capacity would be handy for some of the big charter jobs but I’d be very surprised if any existing artic route leaves people behind due to overcrowding.[/quote>

If we don’t like standing then we wont like rail either! At peak times the buses are quite full, one articulated one driver v two single buses with two drivers there must be a saving there.

Aeek 9:57 pm 29 Nov 11

more buses that can’t carry bikes?

Bussie 9:45 pm 29 Nov 11

Pretty sure the Australian Design Rules or whatever the relevant standard is doesn’t allow bike racks on long buses (or possibly any buses as there’s allegedly something against things protruding from the front of vehicles).

Yes they’ll probably sell off most of the old artics, they are pretty old, shabby and slow. Buses cannot be used to carry paying passengers beyond age 24 (the bus age, the passengers’ ages are irrelevant before any smart arse jumps in) unless all the panels are taken off and the chassis is inspected for rust/metal fatigue. ACTION has done this in the past but the last time was the early 90s. Some of the old artics would be close to 24.

The capacity could be increased by having fewer seats but I doubt Canberrans would like that. A higher capacity would be handy for some of the big charter jobs but I’d be very surprised if any existing artic route leaves people behind due to overcrowding.

milkman 9:40 pm 29 Nov 11

The old ones could be turned into a pretty cool motor home!

bystander_effect 9:19 pm 29 Nov 11

Wow. Wonder if the’ll sell off some of the old articulated ones? Anyone know?

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