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NO Bus Stops on Athllon Drive? (Kambah/Wanniassa)

By Piratepete - 19 July 2013 19

It has come to my attention that between the bus stop on Athllon Drive at Farrer and the stop at Greenway (just before the bridge over the lake opposite Learmonth Drive) there are no bus stops! This means that residents of Kambah & Wanniassa cannot catch an express (i.e. 312/314 etc) bus to and from work unless they want to walk an hour to the closest stop.

This seems crazy considering there are stops every 100m or so everywhere else.

The perfect place for a stop where the bus can pull in off Athllon with the space already available would be next to the Wanniassa shops (just after the roundabout near Red Rooster).

Is there somewhere to lodge requests with ACTION?

What’s Your opinion?


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NO Bus Stops on Athllon Drive? (Kambah/Wanniassa)
miz 10:39 am 21 Jul 13

I can see where OP is coming from. Surely that Expesso route could make one extra stop on Athllon with minimal impact to times. However, have you looked at 61/161 or 64 to see if they work for you?

JC 5:16 pm 20 Jul 13

Innovation said :

Not having done that route for a while, I suspect that the extra five to ten minutes travel is more as a result of the diverted bus route than stopping to pick up and drop off passengers. Similarly, a couple of extra bus stops on Athlon Drive is not going to noticeably increase travel times and will allow whole communities (not just a few neighbouring houses) to get to these stops under their own steam and catch more direct routes to their destination.

Doesn’t really matter. The diversion was put in place to serve those stops, which as I mentioned was sensible because they are used by large numbers of people. The end result is an increase in travel times.

Now I know where you are coming from and you are probably right a few stops on Athllon Drive probably won’t have much effect, simply because there is not the traffic next to the road to utilise the stops anyway.

Innovation 2:50 pm 20 Jul 13

JC said :

The bulk of the people in those suburbs would have to walk a distance to get to Athllon Drive anyway. Also can I draw you attention to the fact that there are no stops along Adelaide Ave too. Same issue. But it makes no sense to have bus stops along express bus routes.

A good example is the route city to Belconnen. In days gone by that used to be 15 minutes, it now takes 20-25 because the buses go down Haydon Drive and stop at the hospital, CIT, Uni, CISAC etc.

Now in this case it makes sense as all those destinations (well except maybe CISAC) are major traffic generators, but a few homes 200m either side of Athllon Drive are better served by their local buses then making express buses stop more.

Not having done that route for a while, I suspect that the extra five to ten minutes travel is more as a result of the diverted bus route than stopping to pick up and drop off passengers. Similarly, a couple of extra bus stops on Athlon Drive is not going to noticeably increase travel times and will allow whole communities (not just a few neighbouring houses) to get to these stops under their own steam and catch more direct routes to their destination.

ML-585 12:47 pm 20 Jul 13

The perfect place for a stop where the bus can pull in off Athllon with the space already available would be next to the Wanniassa shops (just after the roundabout near Red Rooster).

It is already on their list. Refer to here: http://www.transport.act.gov.au/catch_a_bus/park_and_ride_initiative

A Park & Ride facility near Wanniassa Shops (with a new bus stop) is being considered “in the coming years”.

Anna Key 10:14 am 20 Jul 13

I seem to recall (happy to be corrected) that a few years ago they did look at putting a bus stop near the Red Rooster

KB1971 8:59 am 20 Jul 13

BimboGeek said :

wildturkeycanoe said :

the system is pretty much flawless [cough,cough] so there is no need to try and cater for every miscellaneous journey for every resident.

All praise the lovely bus network!

Do you expect public transport to pick you up & drop you off at the exact points you want to go at any given time?

KB1971 8:58 am 20 Jul 13

KB1971 said :

Have you looked at other routes other than the 300 series?

There are a few that head into the city from various parts of north Tuggeranong and plenty into Alden so you can catch an inter town bus.

That was supposed to be Woden, I missed the auto correct on my phone,

JC 8:49 am 20 Jul 13

wildturkeycanoe said :

The 61 and 161 go through there every half hour, right past the Red Rooster. Just because it isn’t express, doesn’t mean you can’t catch it and take it to an express pickup point. As has been well and truly pointed out to me, the system is pretty much flawless [cough,cough] so there is no need to try and cater for every miscellaneous journey for every resident.
I’d just drive it was that big an issue.

You cynicism aside, who ever said “there is no need to try and cater for every miscellaneous journey for every resident” is 100% right. In fact I would go as far as to say it is the fact that Action doesn’t do this that many people think the system s shit. That perception may well be true, but the simple fact it the system CANNOT cater for every miscellaneous journey.

BimboGeek 7:56 am 20 Jul 13

wildturkeycanoe said :

the system is pretty much flawless [cough,cough] so there is no need to try and cater for every miscellaneous journey for every resident.

All praise the lovely bus network!

bigred 10:26 pm 19 Jul 13

Light rail will fix it so do not worry. Toot toot!

JC 9:37 pm 19 Jul 13

The bulk of the people in those suburbs would have to walk a distance to get to Athllon Drive anyway. Also can I draw you attention to the fact that there are no stops along Adelaide Ave too. Same issue. But it makes no sense to have bus stops along express bus routes.

A good example is the route city to Belconnen. In days gone by that used to be 15 minutes, it now takes 20-25 because the buses go down Haydon Drive and stop at the hospital, CIT, Uni, CISAC etc.

Now in this case it makes sense as all those destinations (well except maybe CISAC) are major traffic generators, but a few homes 200m either side of Athllon Drive are better served by their local buses then making express buses stop more.

KB1971 5:30 pm 19 Jul 13

Have you looked at other routes other than the 300 series?

There are a few that head into the city from various parts of north Tuggeranong and plenty into Alden so you can catch an inter town bus.

wildturkeycanoe 5:30 pm 19 Jul 13

The 61 and 161 go through there every half hour, right past the Red Rooster. Just because it isn’t express, doesn’t mean you can’t catch it and take it to an express pickup point. As has been well and truly pointed out to me, the system is pretty much flawless [cough,cough] so there is no need to try and cater for every miscellaneous journey for every resident.
I’d just drive it was that big an issue.

bigred 5:21 pm 19 Jul 13

None on Hindmarsh drive between Parkway and Woden town centre either.

tim_c 4:52 pm 19 Jul 13

Yes, that’s why it’s an “express” service – it wouldn’t be express if there was a stop every 100m.

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