Parking at ANU

domsoph said :

chucking a hissy? geez if u think this is chucking a hissy, i feel extremely sorry for you…..only expressing an opinion as everyone else is doing…to tell you the truth it is getting a little boring now. Whoopdidoo you are all so much tougher than me, good for you! You want a gold medal or something? It just seems funny that i have quite a few friends that actually agree with me on this subject, that it is quite difficult to find a park at the anu….but perhaps we are a whole generation of whingers and whiners….

I’m willing to bet that 90% of the people on this forum have never even set foot on a university campus.

RuffnReady said :

Who’s saying they are “better than everyone else” or trying to make people “feel guilty”?

The OP is whinging about parking – I offered a reasonable and detailed solution.

Why don’t you STFU fatty?

Oh right, so because I don’t ride a bike I am by default a “fatty”? You’re really showing how mature you are right there.

Somehow I don’t think my boss would be too impressed if I turned up to work in the morning all sweaty after cycling for 1 hour…I work with the public and there are no showers nearby, do you really think it’s reasonable to expect everyone to cycle to work in the mornings? I’m so sorry that we can’t all conform to your little utopia where everyone rides around on their bikes, but have fun looking down your nose at those of us who have no choice but to drive.

Drove past the western side of campus on my way to work this morning.

Hundreds of carparks available.

Suck it up, princess. I pay around $2000 a year for parking.

You just need to think laterally and come up with something, like we all did during our uni days to solve problems. I used to get to uni very ealry, and spend some time doing study/assignments. Got a park easy, and got work done too.

Oh, welcome back vg – hopefully your attitude hasn’t improved!

Not that lucky, Thumper – you could have married Paul MacCartney, and had a fleet of chauffeurs to find parking spaces for you.

When I was at school I had to walk 10 miles bare foot!

Uni students want everything.

perhaps we are a whole generation of whingers and whiners….

Now you’ve got it!

I wonder if Burma is like this.

“Bit windy, eh?”
“Yeah, and parking by the coast is a b*tch.”

Jeez I get worried when you all bottle up your feelings like this. I think you should let it out and say what you really think…

Sometimes I miss the most entertaining threads…

Myrmecia: “Just like those who choose to settle in Gungahlin because it’s cheaper, but then complain about the lack of services (which is why it’s cheaper). As Gungahlin’s services improve, the rates will go up (to pay for the services), so they’ll complain about that.”

Rising to the bait ever so slightly, clearly you haven’t checked out the prices out here lately. And your comment might hold up a bit better if there was actually much of a choice as to where to buy land in Canberra. But there isn’t.

On services, it is starting to catch up now, after some degree of agitating (and countless meetings, media gigs, etc), with more coming courtesy of the budget. But what we don’t have is good planning and employment. Meaning we all have to commute out. Meaning you all have more parking problems (just to stay vaguely on topic) and to pay for more road construction. Would you prefer I stop lobbying on that issue?

It’s nothing new, it was just as bad 10 years ago ! Perhaps even worse !

As a university student, you should be keenly aware that the days of gasoline glut consumption are numbered and that we cannot behave in the same manner as we did in the past.

not if they’re an american republican – apparently only about 17% believe the hype on anthropogenic global warming, even college[uni] educated ones… are you a republican, domsoph?

…and domsoph has quite a few friends. we’d better be afraid. they might overcharge us $5 for our pizza next we meet ’em…

DOMSOPH, Get onto the student union. Make the wet behind the ears young labor types work for their elected positions and get some infrastructure and facilites on campus.

@domsoph
‘But if you really think about it, if you boring old farts hadn’t spoilt us so much in the beginning perhaps we wouldn’t be like this, so really it is all your fault after all…..’

Maybe you should go and cry to your parents ’cause I had nothing to do with your upbringing

I fail to see what the problem is. ANU parking has always ben poor. It seems to be better on the western side of campus but maybe I’ve been lucky. I used to ride in when I was a student but I would spend all day there rather than just come in for an hour. I can sympathise with Domsoph in regards to finding a park if its only an a single tute or lecture that needs attending. But otherwise just accept it, you’ll stress less and as you have seen here, no one really cares that its just a little bit inconvenient for you, life like that.

chucking a hissy? geez if u think this is chucking a hissy, i feel extremely sorry for you…..only expressing an opinion as everyone else is doing…to tell you the truth it is getting a little boring now. Whoopdidoo you are all so much tougher than me, good for you! You want a gold medal or something? It just seems funny that i have quite a few friends that actually agree with me on this subject, that it is quite difficult to find a park at the anu….but perhaps we are a whole generation of whingers and whiners….

But if you really think about it, if you boring old farts hadn’t spoilt us so much in the beginning perhaps we wouldn’t be like this, so really it is all your fault after all…..

enjoy bitching about that comment now….
mwah
xoxox

jessieduck said :

Now, they regularly trudge 15 km through sleet and snow to put in their ‘8-10? hours of hard labour for which public servants are justly famous. 🙂

If they do drive to work, apparently they have to park out near Bungendore and walk in to their important yet low-paying job.

You forgot how they don’t even have proper shoes- just one Ministerial Brief per foot wrapped around bloodied toes!

Nah – just put in the hard yards early in your career, so when you get the incredibly important job you can pay $2000 p a for an allocated parking space under the building where you put in your daily 7 hours 21 minutes.

I think the point is not that everyone else had it incredibly tough so domsoph should harden up – I think the point is that only domsoph seems to think this is incredibly tough. And it’s hard to have much patience with someone who asks for opinions and then chucks a hissy when they turn out not be what she hoped for.

Genie said :

What they SHOULD do is have “carpool only” carparks – to encourage people to carpool a little more often… I know many people who live within 5 minutes of each other and work in the same place or 1 or 2 buildings apart.. yet they ALL drive to work in their OWN cars… I only thought with rising petrol and parking prices, plus limited parks – people would get off these bums and offer lifts.

Next time anyone thinks about complaining about a lack of parking, or peak hour traffic, should look around at 75% of people all alone in their car. Get an extra 25% of people to carpool..might fix your problems.

Exactly! The problem is the paradigm. We don’t need more car parks, we need few cars on the road.

el – I don’t usually succumb to the cheapshot, but in this case I couldn’t pass it by.

Now, they regularly trudge 15 km through sleet and snow to put in their ‘8-10? hours of hard labour for which public servants are justly famous. 🙂

If they do drive to work, apparently they have to park out near Bungendore and walk in to their important yet low-paying job.

You forgot how they don’t even have proper shoes- just one Ministerial Brief per foot wrapped around bloodied toes!

So thereyou have it domsoph.

Most Rioters apparently attended ANU back in the old days, when the parking situation was even worse, and they were even poorer. BUT DID THEY COMPLAIN??? NO!

Now, they regularly trudge 15 km through sleet and snow to put in their ‘8-10’ hours of hard labour for which public servants are justly famous. 🙂

If they do drive to work, apparently they have to park out near Bungendore and walk in to their important yet low-paying job. BUT DO YOU EVER HEAR A PUBLIC SERVANT HAVE A WHINGE? NO!

So suck it up, domsoph. You’re amongst heroes.

.

I am sure the true economic cost of supplying someone a bit of prime real real estate for car storeage on an as needed basis would exceed $68pa. As a taxpayer I am offended that I am expected to subsidise the aspirations expressed here.

Okay, so some people have an aversion to riding a bike, for whatever reason, lame or legit. But the other option of using public transport (park and ride) is still viable, indeed responsible. As a university student, you should be keenly aware that the days of gasoline glut consumption are numbered and that we cannot behave in the same manner as we did in the past.

Why don’t you STFU fatty?

ROFLMAO!

All a bunch of whingers…

To the original poster of this story…. You paid $68 for 1 years parking !?!?!?! Does it say ANYWHERE on you parking ticket that you are GUARANTEED a car park ???? NOOOOOOooooooooo ! I purchase a pre-paid parking voucher for work to avoid the hassle of having to find enough coins to feed the machines and saving me an extra 5 min every daily.. (plus you pay less in the long run) BUT – I never complain when I arrive to work for a late start on a Friday when the carpark is full… or I have to park an extra 100metres away. I am grateful for what I have, for although I do have 4 different buses I can catch, from 4 different directions from my house – they all leave at the same bloody time every morning and its a minimum 15min walk between the stops, so i’m screwed if i miss one – So i’m happy I even have somewhere to park my car.

All you other whingers and everyone else.. need to wake up to themselves.. there is parking problems everywhere.. And until the Government stop building more offices over current carpark – the problem will get worse.

What they SHOULD do is have “carpool only” carparks – to encourage people to carpool a little more often… I know many people who live within 5 minutes of each other and work in the same place or 1 or 2 buildings apart.. yet they ALL drive to work in their OWN cars… I only thought with rising petrol and parking prices, plus limited parks – people would get off these bums and offer lifts.

Next time anyone thinks about complaining about a lack of parking, or peak hour traffic, should look around at 75% of people all alone in their car. Get an extra 25% of people to carpool..might fix your problems.

Sina mentioned ‘breeders’ in a previous post. They’re just finishing off personifying the stereotype with their last post about bikes.

Who’s saying they are “better than everyone else” or trying to make people “feel guilty”?

The OP is whinging about parking – I offered a reasonable and detailed solution.

Why don’t you STFU fatty?

RuffnReady said :

What’s not cycling distance? Inner North/South/Woden/Belco are no more than a 40 minute ride, catch the 333 if you live in Tuggers. It saves you money and improves your health. Once you are in the habit, it becomes addictive. Don’t want to do it every day, try 3 and drive/bus it the other two.

My suggestion certainly is more productive than whinging about parking at the ANU (which, BTW, I attend, and which is plentiful if you get there before 8:30).

Again, you act as though a bike is the be-all and end-all solution to life’s problems! Not everyone WANTS to ride a bike, just like not everyone WANTS to take up salsa dancing or learning French. We get it, you think you’re better than everyone else because you cycle, good for you, but stop trying to make people feel guilty simply because they don’t own a goddamn bike!

Yawn.

I ride a bike a fair bit for commuting to civic from gungahlin and it’s not that bad. It’s reasonably flat and I manage to pack a weeks worth of work clothes on the bike trailer on Monday, use the same thing for my cricket kit on Tuesday and Thursday and ride without the trailer on the other two (now four) days.

The bike was cheap, the trailer was cheaper, the parking’s free, and Im getting fit. My commute time is about the same door to door as driving so I fail to see the downside.

Except that I’m broken right now and have to catch the bus, but that’s a great time to catch up on my (part-time) uni reading.

I guess it’s a question of perception. Make opportunities from obstacles. I listen to uni podcasts while I ride so really, I’m not wasting any time at all.

Ingee

For a being so full of vitriol you seem sadly obsessed by things that I did when I last posted which, from memory, was at least 2 years ago. And it really is sad. As important as I may personaly think I am it would be remiss of me to think that I am as significant a focal point for others on this board. You have proven me otherwise. It is heartening to be thought of as such an icon to you. I can die in the knowledge that my writings have impacted on at least 1 person.

Loser was a phrase I last used in high school. It meant nothing then as now. I mean if I am a loser it would be logical to assume there is a winner. What particular traits would this ‘winner’ have that differ to mine? Good job and fruitful career……no, got one of those. Great family life…….one of them too. A strong circle of friends…….check. Please, what does the ‘winner’ have? But then again that would be your definition of loser and, without knowing anything about me you classify me as such, well then with the above things I have in my happy life I am happy to be known as a loser by yourself.

I can’t hide behind a little sand castle, I’m too big. That is the honest part.

Do the cutting remarks from an anonymous internet hard man scythe my soul? Ah……no, but keep firing away. God bless

You asked how we’d react in your shoes; I told you (as have others), and now you’re complaining because you don’t like our answers.

Your original post asked if anyone else found the situation ridiculous. If you only wanted responses that agreed with you, you should have spent more time lurking before you posted.

If you want opinions, this is the place. If you want validation, get a dog.

1 Star. Become more aware of your surroundings and leave your hovel sooner in order to obtain carparking. Most of us experience this every day in what we call ‘going to work’, or ‘going about our usual business’.

I agree with VG’s teen magazine commentary.

Seems like you’re sticking to the same tired MO vg … sticks and stones … wait, let me guess … it’s hard to have a battle of wits with an unarmed man … oh let me control my laughter … and when you’ve got fuk all left, you’ll bore everyone with your amature knock out record – but you’ll still want to hide behind your little sand castle of “fair contest” … let’s keep it honest dipsh!t, your a loser, and the diference between you and everyone else here is that you’re still a loser when you step out from behind the key-board.

Here’s what I do.
1. I live in O’Connor
2. I catch the 34 (if I can’t be stuffed walking)
3. Sometimes the 34 doesn’t get me to uni at exactly the right time so, rather then posting a whinge about how Action buses should consult ANU/UC timetables before they figure out the bus timetable, I go get myself a latte and read before class
4. I get over myself

Me thinks young domsoph won’t be back.

domsoph – it was a $68 permit, no? For the whole year? What exactly did you expect for $68/yr? Parking at ANU has always been a pain. Twas in 1995 when I was an undergrad, still is today.

And why the hell did you buy a car on credit? You could’ve bought something for 2-3K and not spent 5 years paying off a depreciating asset.

Sina said :

RuffnReady said :

Buy a bike. Save you on petrol and on the parking permit.

Again, this only works if you live within cycling distance and don’t have to lug around stacks of heavy books. Why do people on RA always think that buying a bike is going to solve everyone’s problems??

What’s not cycling distance? Inner North/South/Woden/Belco are no more than a 40 minute ride, catch the 333 if you live in Tuggers. It saves you money and improves your health. Once you are in the habit, it becomes addictive. Don’t want to do it every day, try 3 and drive/bus it the other two.

My suggestion certainly is more productive than whinging about parking at the ANU (which, BTW, I attend, and which is plentiful if you get there before 8:30).

Welcome back vg, we’ve missed you.

Sticks and stones Ingee. Major difference between you and I is I’m still a tough guy when I step away from the keyboard.

Haven’t been under a rock, just watched this place decline to the point that’s its a Teen magazine whinge point

domsoph, why you would waste time posting this.
You find peoples responses boring, well I hate to tell you but this whole post is boring.
I am not sure what you were expecting people to say, but what you have described is just every day life just deal with it.

I thought emergency services vehicles could park anywhere for free. Why did you buy a permit when you’re driving that shiny waaaaaambulance?

Interesting to see vg’s latest return to RA is a turgid little rant at a newbie. Wow, what a hard man. I guess he mus have dcied Big Al really wasn’t coming back and it was safe to crawl out from under his rock.

I’m an older generation. I was a struggling student and I drove a shitbox car and parking at ANU used to really annoy me too!

to all you annoying gen x-ers (*yawn* the whole generation battle is getting tiresome) oh you are all so tough, i wish i could be more like you, suck it all up and get on with it eh? what utter bull crap! “get a bike, life was harder for me as a uni student, we never whinge, we’re just hard workers”…blah blah blah….BORING!
Please stop talking about the workforce as though it is a foreign concept to students, i spent 4 years of my life working full time and have only now returned to study, and yes i have had to pay bills and live on a budget etc, so please stop trying to give me a lesson in living, no doubt i have lived more than any of you boring old farts! why would i sell a car that i have just worked 5 years to pay off? Get a bike??? Get a bus? I choose not to, so there, you suck it up!

and vg…. bitter and twisted! Maybe you should go the chemist and pick up some CHILL PILLS!

Domsoph

Imagine what it will be like when you have to

a) Work 5 whole days a week
b) Pay off a mortgage
c) Raise a family
d) Pay for parking in the City every day
e) Study part time

Yes, all choices but you picking ANU was a choice too. Get off your fat ass and get on a bike. But its too far and I have heavy books to carry. Buy a bike rack. Unless you live in Tharwa its not a problem

There are problems in this world……this is not one of them.

FFS get down to the chemist and buy some of those ‘Harden The F*ck Up’ tablets. There’s a big, wide scary world out there, often unjust. If you think this is a big issue you have a boat load to learn. Wanna get rid of the problem? Sell your car. Should be good for 4 or 5 years worth of bus passes.

Dammit, imhotep beat me to it. I was going to complain that when Ah were a lass, ah had to park in a paper bag in a septic tank, and when ah got home, mah flatmates would slaace me in two wit’ bread-knaafe.

Domsoph – if you find us lacking in sympathy, it’s probably because many of us have been in exactly your situation, and didn’t whine about it. For most of my student years I couldn’t afford a car – I caught buses (from various squalid sharehouses suburbs away from Uni, or from one of my three jobs) and I’ll bet I had as many books as you did to lug around. When I could finally afford a car I found parking so bad that most of the time I caught the bus again anyway, or carpooled, or just expected that I’d have to park a few kms away from my lectures. There’s nothing hypothetical about our reactions.

And once you’re in the workforce it isn’t any better. One of my colleagues had to work til 3 am the other morning and was still in again at 8am because he wouldn’t get a park otherwise (and he needed his car that afternoon). He didn’t complain about it – he’s just used to it. We all are.

Get yourself a copy of “He Died With a Falafel In His Hand” and you might find out a bit more about why Gen X thinks Gen Y should learn to suck it up now and again.

Headbonius – when things are unjust they are unjust and i may be whinging like a baby, but i don’t care, i’ll whinge til i’m blue in the face. People like you are not going to stop me voicing my opinion. And how very convenient for you to take comments out of context, and not admit when you’ve been an ass! (asian student comment was petty)

I think you ought to get the hell over yourself and go back to the miserable hole you crawled out of.

One last thing, how would you react if you were in my situation? Hypothetically, how would you feel? Please enlighten me. Don’t come back with, “i wouldn’t be in your situation” or “i don’t drive”…tell me, if you were in this situation, how would u react?

House? You were lucky to have a HOUSE! We used to live in one room, all twenty-six of us, no furniture. Half the floor was missing and we were all huddled together in one corner for fear of FALLING!
Terry J: You were lucky to have a ROOM! We used to have to live in a corridor!
Michael: Ohhhh we used to DREAM of livin’ in a corridor! Woulda’ been a palace to us. We used to live in an old water tank on a rubbish tip. We got woken up every morning by having a load of rotting fish dumped all over us! House!? Hmph.
Eric: Well when I say “house” it was only a hole in the ground covered by a sheet of tarpolin, it was a house to US.
Graham: We were evicted from our hole in the ground; we had to go and live in a lake!
Terry J: You were lucky to have a LAKE! There were a hundred and fifty of us living in a shoebox in the middle of the road.
Michael: Cardboard box?
Terry J: Aye.
Michael: You were lucky. We lived for three months in a paper bag in a septic tank. We used to have to get up at six in the morning, clean the paper bag, eat a crust of stale bread, go to work down the mill for fourteen hours a day week in week out, for sixpence a week. When we got home, out Dad would thrash us to sleep with his belt!
Graham: Luxury! We used to have to get out of the lake at six o’clock in the morning, clean the lake, eat a handful of hot gravel, work twenty hour a day at the mill for tuppence a month, come home, and Dad would thrash us to sleep with a broken bottle, if we were LUCKY!

(Apologies to Monty Python..The OP was having a minor whinge, common enough here, but this has turned into a whinge orgy!)

Domsoph – ‘all i ask for is a friggin car spot which i have paid for! I am simply saying that i have paid for a permit i think it is only fair i should be able to use it without a) getting fined and b) having to pay and display’ – You left off the Boo Hoo and the Wah Wah. Stop whining and get to work.

RuffnReady said :

Buy a bike. Save you on petrol and on the parking permit.

Again, this only works if you live within cycling distance and don’t have to lug around stacks of heavy books. Why do people on RA always think that buying a bike is going to solve everyone’s problems??

Yeah. But how about being overcharged $5 for a pizza.

Buy a bike. Save you on petrol and on the parking permit.

Firstly, I don’t drink….so there is no money wastage on alcohol…and i think it pretty petty of you to assume all students are foolish binge drinkers….

Do as the asian students? work hard? I am at uni 4 days a week and work part time 2 and 1/2 days….i think i work pretty hard, and i don’t ask anyone for anything, in fact i don’t even get austudy (because i don’t think i need it!! i try to manage without!) Would you prefer me to get austudy? So that you, the taxpayer can pay for my parking? or my supposed binge drinking efforts every thursday night? ….all i ask for is a friggin car spot which i have paid for! I am simply saying that i have paid for a permit i think it is only fair i should be able to use it without a) getting fined and b) having to pay and display….

look who’s whinging now!
sheesh…..

ASSUMPTION IS THE MOTHER OF ALL F***UPS!

Headbonius said :

Work Hard, Don’t blow all your rent money, carparking money, food money on cheap drinks at MooseHeads on a Thursday night and life may seem a little more financially rewarding. FFS, Student (Whinger) expect everything to be handed to them on a bloody platter.

Funny, that sounds a lot like the whinging breeders who expect everyone else to foot the bill for their little genetic f-ups.

Danman, I dont live in Gunghalin

Dear Domsoph, I have for years been perplexed by a riddle. I knew it had to be a code of some sort…..What does the word “Student” really mean.

Whilst I was reading your moaning diatribe “I think it’s unfair that students have the last option in parking when the university is supposed to help educate us, not to send us broke!…..not only do we have to pay HECS, we have to pay to park on our own university and we also get fined and have to spend hours searching for a park….and lecturers wonder why some of us don’t come to class!!!! And yes, i know there are student carparks around the uni but i am still to get to uni and find a free spot in one of those carparks….they are always full! I have also heard rumours that public servants working in Civic bribe ANU students for their permits so they can park on campus…..it really has become a joke and i am sick of it! Someone, somewhere needs to sort this shit out!”

The answer dawned on me – the code!!!!!

S = W, T = H or R, U = I, D = N, E = G, N = E.

Hence, Student = WHINGER.

Oh I am so broke…..Boo Hoo, Save the Baby Harp Seals…..Wah Wah!, Rent is too expensive…….Woe is me, HECS is unfair……….Boo Hoo. Quit moaning, tell all your non-full fee paying mates to make like the Asian Students. Work Hard, Don’t blow all your rent money, carparking money, food money on cheap drinks at MooseHeads on a Thursday night and life may seem a little more financially rewarding. FFS, Student (Whinger) expect everything to be handed to them on a bloody platter.

domsoph said :

For your information, i had actually been accepted into Melbourne Uni, I made no mistake in choosing ANU tho, i believe it’s one of the best unis in the country, it is a great school and has fantastic facilities, all the lecturers i’ve had have been great, i have made some friends i’ll be keeping for life… all i’m doing is having a bit of a whinge about the parking!

Exactly, ANU regularly tops the list as the #1 university in Australia, and I believe it’s sitting at around #16 worldwide. I don’t know how accepting a place at ANU could be seen as a “mistake”?

Just like those who choose to settle in Gungahlin because it’s cheaper, but then complain about the lack of services

What lack of services.

Oh the 3 petrol stations, 3 shopping malls, various other retail outles, beautiful lakes with walking tracks, golf clubs, green community areas, public sports ovals, football clubs and their bistros, the many and varied ethnic eateries, cycling tracks..

Yeah… I see where you’re coming from… We got it hard here in the ghetto.

I don’t have any trouble parking at the ANU. I put my name on the waiting list for an assigned student space, and after 6 months of parking hell I got my own assigned space. Ahh, parking bliss.

Mymercia – don’t be so pompous….

But isn’t dosmoph typical of people who apply to come to the ANU when there are plenty of other choices and then, rather than admitting they made a mistake in their planning and choosing, whinge about the features they find, in the light of experience, to be not to their liking.

For your information, i had actually been accepted into Melbourne Uni, I made no mistake in choosing ANU tho, i believe it’s one of the best unis in the country, it is a great school and has fantastic facilities, all the lecturers i’ve had have been great, i have made some friends i’ll be keeping for life… all i’m doing is having a bit of a whinge about the parking! Why does the UC have free parking for students???

P.S. We’re in CANBERRA not CAMBRIDGE……slight difference!

Ah yes, the usual self-righteous mob who accuse uni students of being lazy, hippy-types who need to experience the so-called “real world”. Get off your high-horses already. I have been a member of the workforce since I left high school, and I’ve been studying part-time at ANU the last few years, and I agree the parking situation is ridiculous. If my classes only start at, say 12, it’s pretty much impossible to get a park that isn’t miles away and costs me an arm and a leg. And before you start bleating that I should catch a bus/cycle – have you tried doing that when you have a mountain of heavy textbooks to lug around? I live in Gungahlin and bussing/cycling just isn’t an option.

Myrmerica – not everyone wants to live in the city. Some people like living in the suburbs. The rates for outer suburbs across canberra aren’t terribly different, however the level of service is, depending on whether your suburb was built prior to self Govt.

I chose to live where I do because it is 5 minutes to work by car. By contrast it is at least a 15 minute walk to the bus stop, the closest school is 4 suburbs away and we have no shops. I pay the same rates as a family member who lives in Wanniassa who has 6 schools, a shop and bus stop within a 10 min walk.

It is not ‘cheaper’ to live here, just more convenient to work…and yes I still expect some level of service for my rate dollar.

If rates were commensurate with services, the Govt would owe me money.

Suck it up. Back when I were a lad and at uni in Sydney there was NO on campus parking for students, most of us travelled by public transport which for me meant a 2h trip each way even for a 2h lecture, and getting home at nearly 11pm after evening chemistry labs.

Domsoph, a number of my colleagues park at ANU as they have kids studying there – not quite bribery but hardly fair. I had a great bike when I was at ANU in early 90s – got me most places I needed to go…

Myrmecia – spot on re Gungahlin. Gungahlin Al must be having a sleep-in…

As most of the above correspondents have indicated, domsoph, it may be that you are a little self-centred, self-indulgent and resistant to change. Astrojax mentioned Cambridge: last time I was there it cost the equivalent of $AU 30 to park for a day near the university colleges. Random complains about the lack of bike racks at ANU. In Cambridge there are almost no bike racks and the bikes are sometimes leant two or three deep against iron railing college fences. Chaining a bike to an ANU tree is not a great sacrifice.

Incidentally, I understand that the ANU relies on ACT government parking inspectors to enforce their rules on the campus.

But isn’t dosmoph typical of people who apply to come to the ANU when there are plenty of other choices and then, rather than admitting they made a mistake in their planning and choosing, whinge about the features they find, in the light of experience, to be not to their liking.

Just like those who choose to settle in Gungahlin because it’s cheaper, but then complain about the lack of services (which is why it’s cheaper). As Gungahlin’s services improve, the rates will go up (to pay for the services), so they’ll complain about that.

Park and ride. You’re a student. You are supposed to embrace the new.

@arb: it’s not that easy: apparently there are a couple of hundred people in line for the Baldessin parking station, for example.

I’d tell people to ride a bicycle, but those facilities are insanely overcrowded too in some places. Down near RSBS they’re even locking bikes to trees.

kinda have to agree with blaringmike on this – there is adequate free parking within a reasonable walk – or bus – to campus, and in any case, students have had it very good – try being a staff member at anu [on a campus 75% research, therefore staffed, not studented].

try being a student (or staff member/visitor) at say sydney uni, or any number of unis across the country, and get a good park. or try it on campus at cambridge, harvard, beijing. what ya whining about?

what makes you think students deserve a place to park? no, it isn’t ‘ridiculous’; its a modern workplace and you should be encouraged to source alternate modes of transport. bus/cycle? just cycle? (how far do you travel?) car pool?

Catch a bus. Or part for free and walk the last 20 mins. There are numerous places you can do this. I dont see why just because you are a poor student you should have ample parking. Look anywhere in the City and the parking is sh!thouse. Should every person on the dole get cheap parking because they dont have much money??

Stop your whinning and start opening your eyes to the real world.

It costs me more per month to park in civic than it does for a year’s permit at the uni and that’s in a car park right next to the uni… so quit your whinging.

Here’s a hint – if you want a guaranteed spot at uni get a permit for one of the parking stations like I did when I was studying there, it’s still a hell of a lot cheaper than parking in civic AND it’s secure parking AND you get a reserved spot…

hot tip: park in the free 2hr and 3hr bays in the area of the campus nearest the museum. never seen an inspector there.

I find I can always get a park at ANU, right outside the building I am going to. I also ride a bike.

Good to see uni students haven’t given up whingeing. Gee, grunge-hippy, have you caught a bus in the dark freezing cold of a canberra day after spending 8, 9 or 10 hours at work, because that’s, like, when work is? It does suck. And, yes, it is sometimes more convenient to drive my car to work but I have to pay to park it, and sometimes I can’t find a parking spot where I want it. The bitter injustice of it all …

It was the same 10 years ago when I went to ANU. Had to pay for a permit and I still got a ticket for parking ‘illegally’.

Looks like things havent changed.

and for all those people who say catch a bus…have you caught a bus in the dark freezing cold of a canberra winter after spending only 1 hour at uni because thats when your tute or lecture is? it is sometimes more convienent to drive your car to uni…especially if you live in tuggers, and it takes over a hour to get there by bus, or 20 mins by car. you do the math.

Way back when, ANU parking used to be free.

They they brought in the expensive parking permit, and said it would mean that everyone could get a park, as they would use the funds to create more carparks.

I wonder what happened to that idea???

Not sure of a quick-fix for you there domsph …

Biggest issue from that was the rumours of Civic Workers (rather than Public Servants) paying students for day-time carparks.

If you don’t require the use of a car because you live next to the Uni you attend, and you own a car-spot, you’d think about renting it out too, right? Supply and demand? Catch a bus? Would you like some cheese with that whine?

Best of luck with that

I’ve noticed that the student parking at ANU has gotten pretty desperate in the last 3 years. With student numbers lower, I suspect either somebody’s rorting the system or more students can afford cars!

I always try and get there at 8.30 – 8.45, after that, good luck!

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Every bus from Belconnen, Woden and Tuggeranong goes past the ANU, and they have bus lanes to get them effortlessly through the worst of the traffic. If you can get to work quicker by car than by bus during peak hours at least, you’re driving too fast. So why drive? If all else fails, park and ride, or just park somewhere cheap or free and catch the bus a couple of stops to the uni.

Now if you were working in Symonston, I’d sympathise, but the ANU? Naaah.