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Police Wrap – 17 December

By johnboy 17 December 2008 40

1. The kids are getting bolder:

    ACT Policing is investigating an assault at the Woden Bus Interchange about 12.45pm yesterday (December 16).

    The 31-year-old victim was attacked by four men who restrained him and punched him in the face and head. The offenders are described as between 18-19 years-old.

    One of the offenders is described as approximately 5’7” (170cm) tall, medium build, olive skin, medium length black hair, wearing black track suit pants, a dark coloured shirt and white sneakers.

    The victim received a blood nose and abrasions to his face and head. The offenders were last seen running towards Bowes Street in Phillip.

    Police will be reviewing CCTV footage of the Woden Bus Interchange and surrounding shops in an attempt to identify the offenders.

2. Ice bust in unknown suburb (did they mean “Conder”?):

    ACT Policing executed search warrants on homes in Macgregor and Condor today (December 16).

    Officers from ACT Policing’s Special Response and Security and Detectives from the Territory Investigation Group entered the homes in simultaneous warrants about 5am.

    Police at the Macgregor home located a substance believed to be methylamphetamine (commonly known as ‘ice’), 40 tablets of alleged ecstasy an amount of alleged cannabis and several rounds of ammunition.

    The 21-year-old occupant will face the ACT Magistrates Court today charged with two counts of trafficking in a controlled drug other than cannabis, possession of a prohibited substance and possession of ammunition.

    At the Condor address police located an amount of powder suspected to be methylamphetamine. The 20-year-old occupant will also face the ACT Magistrates Court today charged with possession of a drug of dependence.

If you can help police contact Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000 or via the web site www.act.crimestoppers.com.au.

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Madman 8:57 am 19 Dec 08

fnaah said :

Err, slightly back on topic, but this bugs me a bit:

You can be charged with posession of ammunition?

If you don’t have a license to posess it of course you can… Just the same as being charged for driving without a license.

No, that would be the smae as being charged with posessing a car.

I don’t see the issue with owning ammunition. Owning an unlicensed firearm, sure – throw the book at him, but can’t you just buy ammunition over the counter?

I’m just wondering where that fine line is, that’s all. I still haven’t thought hard enough about my own opinion of firearms law, so please don’t read anything into this.

Okay how can you get charged with possessing a car??? It’s not a controlled article, where guns and ammunition are. You could get charged with possessing an unregistered car on a public street… So in way you’re right. (of course thats not the exact words you’d be charged on)

You actually need a license to purchase ammunition and it needs to be produced and valid before a purchase can be made. Anyone can make a makeshift gun out of piping, wood or steel, so why give everyone open access to the part which is harder to manufacture, the gunpowder?! Also if you don’t know anything about ammunition and you just buy it, store it incorrectly or in the glove box then you could cause serious injury, you need to be aware and licensed to hold such dangerous substance… They don’t sell radioactive waste or terrorist chemicals over the counter either!

fnaah 4:13 pm 18 Dec 08

Err, slightly back on topic, but this bugs me a bit:

You can be charged with posession of ammunition?

If you don’t have a license to posess it of course you can… Just the same as being charged for driving without a license.

No, that would be the smae as being charged with posessing a car.

I don’t see the issue with owning ammunition. Owning an unlicensed firearm, sure – throw the book at him, but can’t you just buy ammunition over the counter?

I’m just wondering where that fine line is, that’s all. I still haven’t thought hard enough about my own opinion of firearms law, so please don’t read anything into this.

Skidd Marx 3:35 pm 18 Dec 08

People call me a rapist and a recluse. I ain’t no recluse”.

“Iron” Mike Tyson

justbands 3:07 pm 18 Dec 08

> I probably come across as harsh and arrogant too; but then again, I am harsh and arrogant.

Hehe…Hicks quote time:

“I don’t want to seem bitter or cynical, but I am, so that’s the way it comes out”

Jim Jones 2:59 pm 18 Dec 08

I probably come across as harsh and arrogant too; but then again, I am harsh and arrogant.

justbands 2:58 pm 18 Dec 08

Not an issue tylersmayhem, I’m just a little prone to coming across as a bit harsh & arrogant myself, sometimes….& it’s also not my intention, often. 🙂

tylersmayhem 2:53 pm 18 Dec 08

Sorry Justbands, after re-reading my last post, it came across a bit harsh and arrogant, which was not the intention.

Crap, I sound like Tom Cruise now or something 😛 LOL

peterh 12:12 pm 18 Dec 08

I avoid the buses with the kids, but that’s because struggling with the pram is a nightmare. currently trying to stop the twins jumping off the lounge. but they will learn, eventually….

they will catch the bus to school, they will probably get into scraps, but they will also be allowed to experience life. want something that never goes out, and stays where you put it?

buy a fishtank and a fish.

justbands 11:48 am 18 Dec 08

tylers….it was a question, not an admission that I wrap my own kid in cotton wool. He gets himself to & from school without an issue daily….& plays outside, goes to the shopes, etc.

tylersmayhem 11:42 am 18 Dec 08

I spent many a Friday night hanging outside Metro in the Woden interchange in the 90’s, occasionally engaging in the gentlemanly art of biffo with our more than obliging Marist College foes.

I’m sure we would know each other well Skidd 🙂

dexi, tylersmayhem & Jim Jones: Just out of interest, are any of you parents?

No, no I’m not actually just yet Justbands – what’s your point? I spent plenty of time there in the past like Mr Marx, and I also realise that kids are just as likely to get bashed or bullied on school grounds. Show me an instance when a young kid has been bashed up by one of these “undesirables” without provocation, and then tell me also how it’s different than the peeps your kids would bump into at the local shops?

Further to your last question, I hope to have kids in the near future, but when they are old enough, I’ll let them experience the real world, live amongst people from all walks of life, play outside in cubbyhouses which might have spiders in them if I missed one when cleaning it out, and also catch public transport and grow up confident and as worldly as possible.

When I was in Central & Sth America and Sth Est Asia recently, it crossed my mind as t how kids as young as 3 manager to look after themselves, not get bashed, raped, killed, ran over etc etc like so many people fear over here. It’s because they are not wrapped up in cotton wool, and the general public take care of each other. While you might not have confidence in the general public of Canberra, I assure you that if an 11 year old was being threatened – plenty of people would step in to help out – I know I would. I’m also very confident that the “undesirables” you paranoids speak of are unlikely to be the ones causing doing the threatening. It would be other school kids that could bump into each other on the weekends etc. Then again, that’s if these “kids in danger” are allowed out by themselves on the weekend?!

Jim Jones 11:34 am 18 Dec 08

FC said :

and the doctor says I should just think of my soothing thoughts and avoid acting on it. 😉

My doctor says that too. But the voices in my head are so much louder and very very persuasive.

FC 11:31 am 18 Dec 08

haha. funny call dexi.
I actually find the children’s conversations quite amusing sometimes
I say sometimes because it very much depends on my mood.
Sometimes I wouldn’t mind hitting some of them in the back of the head.
But I get that urge a lot and the doctor says I should just think of my soothing thoughts and avoid acting on it. 😉

justbands 11:28 am 18 Dec 08

> Its your children that make the bus awful

Not mine. He’s well behaved & attends his local public school, no interchange visits required. 🙂

dexi 11:24 am 18 Dec 08

Personally I wont travel the buses during the school bus time. Its your children that make the bus awful. Try listening to their conversations or watching the poor behavior going on from some of the uniformed schools.

I would think 14yrs is a good age for independent bus travel.

Kizzle 11:22 am 18 Dec 08

tylersmayhem said :

These Canberra interchanges are scary places.

Oh FFS! I agree completely with Dexi – nad man there appear to be so many paranoid, scared and sheltered people in this town. The interchanges now are the same as they were when I was that age, just probably a few more of what some of you would call “undesirable”. Some of you should be ashamed, and go back and live in your little bubble! We have it considerable better here than so many other places in the world, and I tell you what – places even in the UK are miles worse than here. But then again, if you want your kids to grow up in cotton wool, jump back it your Ranger Rover and keen ferrying them to school. Just might be interesting watching them out in the real world later in life.

so true.. I’ve caught buses since I went to school and spend a lot of the time in the city and travel through interchanges all the time. yeah there’s drama here and there, but I’ve never felt threatened or unsafe. Some ppl need to HTFU… it’s Canberra ffs.

FC 11:20 am 18 Dec 08

How many school ages children are actually made ‘victims’ from hanging out at the interchange while waiting for a bus.
Yes there may be puch ups between school kids that know each other but I would suggest it would be rare that kids are randomly attacked while catching the bus home from school/
The interchange seems the same now as it did when I was a kid and while it gets more interesting on a Friday night because of all the young ones hanging out, i wouldn’t be fazed sending my kid there on 4 pm on a weekday.
The main thing they might haev to be aware of is that they might get asked for money, which I have found occurs more often in the interchange than other areas. And you know what. You simply say yes and donate a dollar or whatever and say ‘no, sorry’ and go on your way. The same as I did when I was young. usually when I was young I didn’t have ‘spare’ change to give out anyway so you wouldn’t even need to be lying. I’m assuming the ‘responsible’ parents who are worried about their children going in there would provide their kids with a bus pass to use instead of was of money, so there shouldn’t really be anything to worry about.
And if you are there to catch a bus and not as a social scene, then you are likely not to get bothered anyway.
That was the way it was 10-15 years ago too…
And there are plenty of transiting adults around that would help out a school kid anyway if there was trouble.
And wait a minute – the offenders were listed as 18-19 years old here.
Hardly kids. They are ADULTS.
And the victim was also an adult.

Jim Jones 11:16 am 18 Dec 08

justbands said :

dexi, tylersmayhem & Jim Jones: Just out of interest, are any of you parents?

Almost.

I commuted to and from school through the bus interchanges from a very early age, and it’s hardly any different now. It’s certainly not more sketchy (if anything, the absence of a young Jim Jones makes it infinitely less sketchy).

The bulk of the times that kids are using the interchange are before and after school (when it’s loaded with kids). I probably wouldn’t want young kids wandering around there late at night, but young kids shouldn’t be wandering around unsupervised late at night anyway.

justbands 11:10 am 18 Dec 08

dexi, tylersmayhem & Jim Jones: Just out of interest, are any of you parents?

I can handle the interchanges fine (although I rarely use public transport, nothing to do with being scared..I just like getting places in less than hours. It’s quicker for me to ride my bike than to catch a bus), although I’d not want my 11yo hanging around in them on his own.

Skidd Marx 11:09 am 18 Dec 08

Thanks for keeping this thread in check Tyler.

I spent many a Friday night hanging outside Metro in the Woden interchange in the 90’s, occasionally engaging in the gentlemanly art of biffo with our more than obliging Marist College foes. I turned out fine.

Jim Jones 11:07 am 18 Dec 08

I’ll second that rant.

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