Report calls for marine sanctuaries along 20pc of NSW Coast CT 20/12

So Headbone, have you got your panties in a bunch because Valerie Taylor has changed her mind?

Oh Mael, you are my hero, how could I ever compete????? FFS Thumper, you are a true mental minnow (and yes Maelinar, minnow’s are finfish) Resorting to violence to solve issues? Please. As if I GAS about “Mael’s background and training” This discussion is over – you and your cronies cannot reasonably discuss a public access/use issue to our environment.

LOL.

I think Mr Headbone already lost Thumper 🙂

It is very clear that there can be no concensus reached on this issue. Love, peace and fish dinners to you all.

A general message to the ether: 2 January 2009 is the date I expect bonehead to finally click onto the true insult behind what I said.

Just one more thing Maelinar, if that is nailing me to the wall pal you are a sad, sad person with inflated opinions on your writing and logic skills.

Dear Maelinar, you have revealed your true colours. None of the morons who decided to attack me even took the time to read what I had written they just bounced off on their own little greeny adventure along with Val. The original point was the bullsh*t reasons around Val Taylor calling for more Marine Parks. About me sinking in my boat and becoming fishfood – GFYS. And I my fishing colleague am done talking to you. One again GFYS.

Bonehead – I am a recreational fisherman, just to make it absolutely clear before I nail you to the wall with your own dribble.

I have seen the tracking of multiple marine species (some avian, but a lot of fish species as well) and am more than extremely supportive of the WA project to help determine the range of shark populations.

It helps people to understand how endangered that particular species is from idiots like you. I already know your kind. Your idea of fishing is to take everything you can, regardless of how much you will end up wasting.

Sudden species depletion in any circumstances takes years to recover, if at all. To throw a curse your way, the next time you go fishing, I wouldn’t give a shit if your boat hit the rocks and you did the most productive thing you could ever hope to attain on this world, and became food for the very species you have been helping to eradicate.

Don’t bother trying to debunk my comments, I’m done talking to you, and I have made my conclusions from what you have already posted. Welcome to the black list.

I may continue to talk about you, however. Troll.

Scuba Divers and Bushwalkers sharing the same sites?

The trolls aren’t particularly well hidden, are they?

Headbone the point is – Are you capable of sensible discussion without abusing people ?

I any case I fish & spearfish a lot, I use to do a lot of shooting, have 3 kids a 4WD & am not keen on gay marriages and still pretty much disagree with you.

Every time Fisheries authorities suggest some
new regulation all the redneck crackpots with the “I fish & vote” stickers jump out of the woodwork & complain.

I think history shows the fishing Authorities have been correct most of the time.

PS – I am not suggesting you are a redneck crackpot

It stands to reason that troll would eat fish, living under bridges and all…

Sorry to triple post losers but I just found this”Gem” on ABC News Online.
Shark tracking to aid marine park design
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A Charles Darwin University researcher with expertise in tracking marine animals has set up a study off the Western Australian coast to map the movements of reef sharks.

Dr Iain Field spent three weeks at the Rowley Shoals off the Kimberley coast tagging sharks and setting up receivers at coral reefs.

He says the information that is collected will be used in the design of new marine parks to protect reef sharks.

“[It will] give us some indication of how big these marine parks need to be for shark populations,” he said.

“If you conserve just one reef and the sharks move between a number of reefs then very little conservation effort is afforded to them.

“So by knowing their movements and their migration patterns it’ll give us a much more powerful tool to then help create some of these marine parks.”

He says little is known about shark movement patterns and the knowledge is vital information for their conservation.

“We’ve actually been deploying a number of acoustic tracking devices and receiver stations,” he said.

“Their presence is picked up and then over time we get a picture by building up all the receiver stations together, of when and where the animals move past the actual receiver stations, giving us an idea of their habitat use and migration patterns.”

What a crock of Shi*. Another plan by CALM (WA’s peak greeny, gay marriage loving, lock up the environment department) to shut out even more areas to legitimate recreational uses. Here’s a tip, sink all foreign illegal fishing vessels (including Japanese Whaling Vessels) Ban shark fishing, protect the spawning areas through total closures, Ban netting the beaches, Ban collection of shellfish from rock platforms and have sensible bag limits on food fish. Ban longline fishing (the major cause of finfish (Maelinar you idiot) such as Marlin depletion and let SCUBA Diver’s bushwalkers etc all share the same areas. I’m more than happy to have Val and her mates diving where I fish. And if you lot don’t think that will fix things you are just against fishing and other blood sports becuase of you ideology and I DGAF about you beliefs.

BTW Merry Xmas – I hope all your Xmas Hams died horrible, painful deaths.

Thanks for your all your obviously ill informed comments – your’s was truly an insightful masterpiece VNBerlinaV8. Actually I do drive an old Hilux with an I fish and I Vote Sticker on it and it will be lining up all VNBerlinaV8’s it can see. Your comment didn’t help. All you greeny voting, Gay marriage loving, protect the fish and hug tree type can die as far as I’m concerned. Hope that helps.

Headbone

PS Mr Headbone, you’re sounding very much like an idiot at this point.

Hope this helps.

So wait…If I don’t kill my own food I’m a member of the loony left?

And secondly…

What the _f*ck_ does this have to do with Canberra? 🙂

“You sound just like the Taliban”

The question is, Does he drive a old hilux like the taliban?”

Now that I have gone to the trouble of reading the above rants, does anyone have a link to some info on Valerie Tylor? Because I have no idea who the hell she (he?) is and while I could google it, I’d rather read whatever slanted online rant people with vested interests might direct me to. 🙂

Recreational Fishing is not a danger to our waters, your true beliefs appear in your last line … // …FFS.

Not sure what you think that my true beliefs are, but your methods of arguing your case may be changing them, and not to your benefit.

And I just learned way more about fish then I ever wanted to know fish classification

Sh!@forbrains, moron !! Really Headbone I think your more intersted in abusing people than having a discussion. You sound just like the Taliban

I thought you would like my sea-baiting themed stop the baiting post (:

sorry.

Ingee – stop feeding the troll, or at least, stop using so much burley…

Bonehead you’re a moron, end of story. It’s obvious you enjoy fishing, but really who cares?

Any credibility you have is lost in your wanky little bitch about Val Taylor, sharks and whatever other bullsh!t you trotted out in the leader. Who really cares if the whole coast gets made into a Greens only fun park where even looking at a toad fish washed up on the beach is banned? It’s a non issue – so go tell you’re story walking sunshine, you’re just another member of a whingy little special interest group moaning on about something that no one else gives a toss about.

The fun bit is watching you chase your tail as you try to accuse me of any and every pathetic little thing you numb brain can grasp long enough to type out. If you had even the slightest inkling how far off the mark, and therefore correspondingly how funny, your piss weak little rant was you’d wet yourself with embarrassment.

Now go away.

TORO TORO TORO

The same comments made to
Inyourfatdonutmunchinggutgoodbee apply to you as well Maelinar, IngeeWTF’s posting was an attack and got one in return. And WTF is “hang on a minute, ingee was talking pro marine reserves as well” about? Are you taking psychedelic drugs?

ATTACK ATTACK ATTACK hang on a minute, ingee was talking pro marine reserves as well, no ATTACK ATTACK ATTACK.

Want to hear a theory ?

Inyourfatdonutmunchinggutgoodbee, I expect that you are someone who buys all their food prepared and would never dream of actually getting out and getting your own, growing your own, killing your own. God forbid you ever become a parent (or are one already) and breed. What a bunch of fat, little, whingy, whiny loony left green prats they would be/are. If you come fishing with me I will let you break their necks. Come on. Your political nouse is also up sh#$creek. The Greens hold the balance of power and get their own way as the pooncey Labor Governments both Federal and State need to pander to their lefty views to get their own agenda across. BTW I love my “I Fish and I Vote Sticker” Have you ripped your “Vote 1 Kerrie Tucker” sticker off your Prius yet?

whine, whine, moan, moan … oh please wont you listen to me, my name is bonehead and I have some unresolved issues about Val Taylor and fishing. Yawn. The sooner our coasts are locked up in sanctuaries the better – if only to annoy whingy little bitches like bonehead.

So a handful of retard sport fishers are going to get their knickers out of shape, big deal, build a bridge. If you really believe that marine management decisions are made by government on basis of input by the likes of Val Taylor then you’re probably dumb enough to have a “I Fish and I Vote” sticker on the back of whatever sh!tbox you drive.

Go away.

Maelinar – all fish that have fins are finfish including snapper. Oh, by the way snapper eat fish too. If you want to call me Jarhead and question my obviously superior knowledge of fish and marine eco-systems by making spurious comments such as “Until you know the categorisation of ‘finfish’ I’m going to continue to presume you are just blowing hot air.” then expect a bite back. I support no fishing zones as well but only ones that have a scientific reason other than locking away areas out of misguided principles or the fact people just don’t like fishing or fell sorry for the poor fish.

In the world of categorisation, an analogy of ‘finfish’ to ‘fish’ is fish that eat fish are finfish (aka the big ones like marlin, shark, tuna), where fish are the ones being eaten.

I have heard this from the fisheries section of the Department of Agriculture, Fisheries and Forestry, or whatever its going to be called in the new age.

So yes, finfish are waning quite seriously. I continue to fail to see why you are attacking me, as I am supportive of no-fishing zones.

Oh yeah, personal attack, – tard.

‘Sure you’ll catch the odd snapper, but finfish and shellfish are waning quite seriously.’Quote from your post Sh!@forbrains. You are the one blowing hot air moron. In your world snapper and finfish are different beings so go back to your happy place which should include a book on effective writing. AAM if you read my post I am saying that I am for certain sanctuaries and better controls on nuclear methods of commerical fishing wich wipe out whole populations. The point you make about the sharks with hooks in their mouths just backs up my original point about sharks not being caught versus hunting with spear guns which Valerie and her husband did and wiped out whole populations.

Every time fish sanctuaries come up fishermen complain & claim it will be the end of the world then 5 years later when they see the fishing has improved they think its wonderful – I refer to rules on barra fishing in the NT in the late 80’s & the improved fishing on the south coast in the last couple of years.

I would have thought keeping one third of an area as a fish sanctuary was about the right balance.

And Headbone you must be joking when you say recreational fishermen have no impact on grey nurse sharks – I have seen these sharks swimming round with 5 or 6 hooks stuck in their jaw.

You can moderately safely say all fish have fins jarhead. Until you know the categorisation of ‘finfish’ I’m going to continue to presume you are just blowing hot air.

As I said, you’ll continue to catch snapper etc, go back to your happy place.

Maelinar – Snapper are finfish, shellfish need to be protected mainly against certain ethnic immigrant groups who have stuffed their own countries marine eco-systems and have come here with the same attitudes. The ventures taken by NSW Fisheries for example in banning explotative fishing methods such as Kingfish traps have proved that populations will rebound when commercial methods designed to wipe out whole populations are eliminated. Netting estuaries is in the same boat and dedicated recreational fishing estuaries on the coast have shown the same results. I pay my fishing licence fee to help with re-stocking, paying out commercial operators licences and policing. Idiots like Valerie Taylor pay nothing for their Scuba diving they just expect to control the whole coast so their view of Utopia can be realised at the expense of the majority.

The overall biological health of our coastal waters is best summarised by the following word: depleted.

Sure you’ll catch the odd snapper, but finfish and shellfish are waning quite seriously.

Dear P1 good questions, can you answer them? I can’t and don’t really care. Recreational Fishing is not a danger to our waters, your true beliefs appear in your last line ” I always thought it was funny in this country the difference in public acceptance between killing fish and killing mammals.” FFS.

“Ingeegoodbee, WTF!?”

I pretty much agree with Ingeegoodbee’s comment, I mean what percentage of people actually catch fish, compared to the people who have an interest in the overall biological health of our coastal waters? I always thought it was funny in this country the difference in public acceptance between killing fish and killing mammals.

Those South Cost Party People for Fish and Human Rights are splitters.

Ingeegoodbee, WTF!?

Expect to see another three minor parties (the South Coast People’s Fishing Rights Party, the South Coast Right Fisherpeople Party, and the South Coast Party People for Fish and Human Rights) show up on the next NSW Senate ticket.

Here we go again … the incessant drone of another whingy special interest group wanting the rest of us to piss away our environment and its resources so they can catch a few fish … yawn.

Maelinar, sensible bag limits, sensible, scientifically backed closures, adequate policing….sure. I have been fishing for the best part of 40 years both fresh and salt, never broken the law, always caught fish – enough for my immediate needs and left the environment as I found it. It is idiots like Valerie Taylor and our local buffoon Mike O’Shaugnessy who would love us all to be locked out of their little natural wonders, open only to Scuba Diving and walkers and all turn Vegan. FFS, this rhetoric and demands for closure of 30pc of the NSW Coast coming from Valerie Taylor, queen of the shark killers is a freaking joke. She obviously knows nothing about recreational angling or more to the point just doesn’t care.

I think that it is appropriate that commercial fishing be given a limit of exploitation, not necessarily for the exclusion of protected species, but also to allow the inclusion of those who may not necessarily be after product for a commercial gain, and to prevent them from doing ultimately stupid actions, having an area within which they can do it and have a reasonable degree of success.

In laymans terms, if there are areas where weekend fishermen can go, get a fish and piss off back to Canberra, without getting desperate and taking too much (since it was so hard to find the spot, I’ll take the lot).

I don’t think any sensible commercial fisherman would object to a nursery area anyway, as they know the ultimate beneficiary is a sustainable industry for themselves, as long as all parties adhere to the rules.

“Its okay to eat fish, they don’t have any feelings” – Kurt Cobain