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Salmonella outbreak – scant on details so avoid all food?

By creative_canberran 6 December 2011 37

News from the ABC today of a Salmonella outbreak, though ACT Health is being scant on the details, not even indicating whereabouts in Canberra these 4 patients live or work.

Given they all got sick in a short space of time and it’s Christmas party season, seems a good bet that is the source.

However with the lack of details and how common food poisoning is anyway, it begs the question why they announced it at all if not to inform people of the cause and how to avoid it?

And if this condition is caused by poor kitchen hygiene, perhaps they could hurry up with the naming and shaming of food outlets who don’t make the grade as is now the case in NSW, something that actually will help us.


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watto23 9:31 am 08 Dec 11

taninaus said :

Isabella1552 said :

Silo is being victimised by over zealous personnel from ACT Health.
Who knows what is going on, not Silo nor for that matter does ACT Health.

Sorry but 5 people hospitalised and 13 people ill (let alone the un reported ones) does not equate to an over reaction by Health inspectors. Something is wrong in the mix here whether it is the food prep or storage by the business, or the food by the supplier it needs to be addressed. We should not have our health put at risk by a commercial food enterprise.

No its not an over reaction, but it also seems that it may not really have been Silo’s fault either. If you get a batch of fresh eggs with salmonella….. Its not a hygiene issue. I think from the radio interview, the most likely cause was their own mayonaisse with fresh uncooked eggs. Something they’ve probably made quite a lot of and now they got some tainted eggs……

Of course it may have been another issue, but if it was this one, Silo are a victim to some degree as well, of course those that got sick were the ultimate to pay the price, luckily no one has died.

dtc 9:20 am 08 Dec 11

Raw egg mayo is a very common culprit. There was an old women a few months ago prosecuted and fined in NSW after catering for her local church (?) picnic, everyone got sick from the mayo.

Basically, go with the cheap mayo and stop being pretentious.

taninaus 7:24 am 08 Dec 11

Isabella1552 said :

Silo is being victimised by over zealous personnel from ACT Health.
Who knows what is going on, not Silo nor for that matter does ACT Health.

Sorry but 5 people hospitalised and 13 people ill (let alone the un reported ones) does not equate to an over reaction by Health inspectors. Something is wrong in the mix here whether it is the food prep or storage by the business, or the food by the supplier it needs to be addressed. We should not have our health put at risk by a commercial food enterprise.

poetix 7:16 am 08 Dec 11

Isabella1552 said :

There are going to be so many left with egg on their faces!

Hopefully they won’t get salmonella from it.

ramblingted 7:12 am 08 Dec 11

I was also sick after a Silo chicken and mayo roll last week – didn’t contact ACT health but did consider it when hearing some people at a BBQ at the weekend talking about them being sick from Silo chicken and mayo rolls recently.

Earlier this year my partner and I barely made it home before being sick following eating a mushroom pizza at Silo. And we agree about the attitude – we used to be much more regular customers at Silo until we decided that ‘bakery with attitude’ wasn’t worth the effort. And, for a ‘master baker’, cajun style seems to be the norm for the almond croissants – all that carbon can’t be good for you.

creative_canberran 11:50 pm 07 Dec 11

Isabella1552 said :

Silo is being victimised by over zealous personnel from ACT Health.

You can’t be serious, what about the 13+ people Silo made ill?

If a bakery is “outstanding” they somehow are absolved from serious breached of food safety?

Isabella1552 10:48 pm 07 Dec 11

OMG – the frightening statistics is that there has only been 38 prohibition notices issued in Canberra in two years.
Silo is being victimised by over zealous personnel from ACT Health.
Who knows what is going on, not Silo nor for that matter does ACT Health.
How sad to target on of only a few outstanding bakeries/cafes/restaurant that Canberra has.
Watch this space.
There are going to be so many left with egg on their faces!

LSWCHP 10:20 pm 07 Dec 11

Myles Peterson said :

That entire episode stinks. Three government agencies (health, workcare and coppers) sicked on a small business, while two local media agencies just happened to “wander past” as it went down.

I think it’d be unsurprising that the proprieters were sicked on if they were causing outbreaks of food poisoning.

aussielyn 9:35 pm 07 Dec 11

Hopefully the investigation of the Chief Health Inspector will be published in the court judgement. Was it the eggs and who is the supplier? Good on Leanne for her interview on ABC666 and revealing it was Silo. Free range eggs and premise made egg emulsion sauces like mayo, béarnaise & hollandaise will now be under the microscope. It would be sad for us to have American versions. I do like Eggs Benedict!
I hope Silo survives the bad publicity storm; it is such a unique place that has now had its reputation shattered. The knives will be out from the RA critics. Interesting inside info from kitchen hand Matt.

I-filed 8:43 pm 07 Dec 11

Silo founder was the Cornucopia founder, then she sold the Braddon establishment to the current (scrupoulously clean) owners. She was a hippie – may have never done any hygiene training in all this time! I’ve never once bought anything at Silo – now I know my gut instinct was correct!

Leinna 8:43 pm 07 Dec 11

Not much you can do if its the eggs… Except not using mayonnaise made from raw eggs!

matt31221 8:40 pm 07 Dec 11

This was certainly a surprise to me. I worked there years and years ago as a kitchen hand and they are good with hygiene I saw it with my own eyes. I ate so much food there including free pastries for months with not one problem. I still go there every week or two for the chilli jam eggs (yummy) and never had a problem. If the outbreak did come from Silo the mistake certainly wouldn’t of been made by Leanne – the head pastry chef/baker/co owner. She is an absolute master perfectionist at what she does, she has caused grown men (pastry chefs etc) to break down and cry because they got one little thing wrong in a recipe and in the bin it goes. Leanne really is an absolute master trademan – she has reached the pinnacle of her trades. I look up to her as a tradesperson and hope that I can translate that kind of excellence to my trade. It will take years to achieve. I love that place, it really is excellent.

The only critique I would level against them would be the front counter staff. They are not perfectionists like Leanne and the kitchen staff, but they act so pretentious and arrogant always treating you like they do not need your patronage. But with food, bread and pastries like that – who cares about a rude counter jockey.

MWF 8:27 pm 07 Dec 11

imarty said :

Coincidentally a research paper on FoodBorne disease Outbreaks in Australia 2001-2009 crossed my desk this very morning.
Of the total number of the 336 outbreaks of Salmonella, 6,573 fell ill, 1138 were hospitalised and 21 died.

My OH was almost one of those 21 who died and one of the 1138 hospitalised.

Just before they took him to surgery to cut open his stomach/bowels (something down there) to find out why he was almost dead, they discovered salmonella. Took 10 days in TCH to get to that point.

He’s very much alive now and still a PITA.

mezza76 8:06 pm 07 Dec 11

Sad & shocked in a way – it’s our favourite bakery. But we’ve been a bit sick from the mayo before – it’s not so much a hygene issue as one of proper food storage. Raw egg mayo is how to make real tasty mayo but it doesnt have a good shelf-life and needs to be stored at proper temps.

creative_canberran 7:00 pm 07 Dec 11

ABC Canberra is now reporting a link to Silo bakery.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-12-07/kingston-bakery-linked-to-outbreak/3718614/?site=canberra

Have to say, not surprised. I went in once and left because something didn’t sit right. I went back with a friend a few months later, he without prompting mentioned something wasn’t right and we left again. It just didn’t have that nice bakery smell and the vibe was crowded and frenetic. The co-owner is claiming that she is scrupulous about hygiene and we shouldn’t rush to conclusions. Fact is though you can wash your hands all you want, if you’re making mayo on site using raw eggs, it won’t do anything.

Joy 6:42 pm 07 Dec 11

Hasn’t this site already named it?

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