The Chief stamps his tiny feet at speeding drivers

johnboy 12 December 2008 53

Jon Stanhope (who we hear now goes by the name of “The Chief” in Assembly-land) has put out a media release pleading with the lead foots to ease up. The camera’s aren’t reducing speeding rates then sir?

    Transport Minister Jon Stanhope has pleaded with Canberrans to slow down on the roads, after road safety cameras detected 10 vehicles travelling at more than 45km/h above the speed limit in November.

    The highest speed recorded was 242km/h in a 100km/h zone on the Tuggeranong Parkway. Three vehicles were detected travelling at more than 200km/h, including one travelling at 206km/h in an 80km/h zone.

    Twenty-one cars were detected travelling with no number plates or incorrect plates.

    “As we arrive at the period of the year that is the worst for road trauma, it is absolutely crucial that each of us resolves to keep to the speed limit this festive season,” Mr Stanhope said.

Lead footed readers should note they’re the subject of the now legendary “angry voice” with your behaviour now marked as “totally unacceptable” by the chiefly one.


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Instant Mash Instant Mash 12:22 pm 14 Dec 08

Personally, I don’t drive. I do however, have some VERY leadfooted friends who seem to believe that being a driver is all about going faster than everybody else.

G-Fresh G-Fresh 2:24 pm 13 Dec 08

VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy said :

The real question is whether speed compliance by Joe Average who otherwise drives at speed limit +5% is going to make any difference to the road toll or the accidents in general.

I’m not convinced it will. I still think thoughtful, considerate driving is much more important.

Wipe off five

Results in shorter stopping distances

farnarkler farnarkler 10:57 am 13 Dec 08

A .303 kicks like a mule. Go creative. Clingwrap one how about putting a nice woolly jumper over one.

p1 p1 9:55 am 13 Dec 08

Or a 303 round through the lense…

farnarkler farnarkler 9:11 am 13 Dec 08

#41 P1 they’re nasty but oh so such a sly idea. More cameras are a good source of revenue but also more targets for people with expanding insulation foam or a well aimed paintball over the lens.

Very Busy Very Busy 8:34 am 13 Dec 08

VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy said :

The real question is whether speed compliance by Joe Average who otherwise drives at speed limit +5% is going to make any difference to the road toll or the accidents in general.

I’m not convinced it will. I still think thoughtful, considerate driving is much more important.

Absolutely 100% spot on. On this issue the government demonstrates it has no imagination or initiative. Iconsiderate driving is probably the root cause of the problem.

VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy 7:26 am 13 Dec 08

The real question is whether speed compliance by Joe Average who otherwise drives at speed limit +5% is going to make any difference to the road toll or the accidents in general.

I’m not convinced it will. I still think thoughtful, considerate driving is much more important.

Gobbo Gobbo 7:18 am 13 Dec 08

Very Busy said :

A friend of mine was pinged recently by the southbound camera on the Monaro Hwy at Hume for doing 85 in the 80 zone.

Interesting. If your friend isn’t understating the amount he was speeding, that could mean the allowance for incorrect instrument calibration (of the car) equals the speed limit plus 5%.

(Always handy to know I guess?)

Very Busy Very Busy 10:21 pm 12 Dec 08

There is no single solution to the problem of speeding drivers in Canberra. Generally, speed cameras are seen as revenue raising devices and are therefore part of a “game” by drivers. Habitual speeders know exactly where all the cameras are and they simply apply the brakes for the fifty metres or so where the camera is and then speed up again.

Special G said :

Or start pinging everyone for 3+ km over the limit like in Victoria with zero tolerance policy thrown into the mix. People would be upset then.

A friend of mine was pinged recently by the southbound camera on the Monaro Hwy at Hume for doing 85 in the 80 zone. The reaction to this sort of fine by most recipients is that it is unreasonable revenue raising and not a road safety issue. The fine therefore has a zero deterant effect rendering the use of cameras for minor speeding offences as failing their “intended” purpose.

I’m annoyed that our government has shown no initiative or imagination in dealing with law breaking on Canberra streets. They seem to think the only fix is to throw up more and more speed cameras. More marked and unmarked dedicated police vehicles would act as a much more effective deterant than speed cameras. They should concentrate on ALL offences including perceived minor offences such as not indicating. It will take a long time but eventually drivers will start taking their responsibility seriously if being caught is a little less predictable. The problem of speeding would then be naturally reduced by better attitudes.

The current practice of using dozens of police and several police vehicles to set up one major sting at a non black spot is not the most effective use of resources. This could be done as part of a bigger strategy but more often all these resources should be used independantly to patrol our major and minor roads with a view to addressing all offences, not just speeding.

The problem will not be fixed until the government realises that it needs to throw some money and decent policy at a solution rather than use the problem to raise revenue.

Felix the Cat Felix the Cat 8:58 pm 12 Dec 08

trevar said :

we don’t need criminals, so why protect them? Just shoot them and be done with it.

Just do it. http://i33.tinypic.com/4rxr83.jpg

GottaLoveCanberra GottaLoveCanberra 4:28 pm 12 Dec 08

What nathan said about arbitrary figures is how I view things as well.

Mr Waffle Mr Waffle 3:30 pm 12 Dec 08

Mr Waffle – Its called section 305 of the Australian Road Rules. Being a driver you should be aware of this.

I’m well aware of the provision, and just like when the discussion was had in the past- an undercover police car running a yellow, possibly red light to book someone for running a yellow light- I don’t think it’s reasonable for an undercover police car to run a yellow/red light without lights or sirens to book someone for running a yellow light.

Well, at least if ACA do another story on hoon P-platers, we can attribute it to the police instead…

p1 p1 12:51 pm 12 Dec 08

I hate the idea of timed distance cameras, (because I am afraid I would be fined), but I find them kind of hard to make an argument against.

Special G Special G 12:49 pm 12 Dec 08

Mr Waffle – Its called section 305 of the Australian Road Rules. Being a driver you should be aware of this.

They could always do distance over time cameras on the long stretches of arterial roads. Or start pinging everyone for 3+ km over the limit like in Victoria with zero tolerance policy thrown into the mix. People would be upset then.

p1 p1 12:45 pm 12 Dec 08

but of course we’ve seen unmarked police cars go by their own laws in the past (run yellow/red lights without sirens etc) so who knows if it’s allowed.

Pretty sure that I heard in previous discussion that there is some specific exclusion that enables unmarked cop cars to do things like display “P”, to enable them to blend a little better with the evil street racers.

and all emergency vehicles run their flashy lights without the siren if it is unnecessary.

Danman Danman 12:34 pm 12 Dec 08

Caf – seems someone beat me to the idea eh ?

How do we implement this in our fine city ?

Gobbo Gobbo 12:27 pm 12 Dec 08

Everyone should drive like me. I drive akin to Captain Slow from Top Gear.

Once bitten by a speeding fine, twice shy.

(Though I do tend to abide by rules and regulations more than most.)

Holden Caulfield Holden Caulfield 12:17 pm 12 Dec 08

VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy said :

…When people see police about, they drive sensibly…

I take your point about visibility, and agree with you, mostly.

The trouble is, in my experience, when motorists drive with a Police car nearby they turn into nervous nellies driving with little common sense or apparent ability. Seems a Police car is a good way to get people to drive 15km/h+ under the limit.

We just need to have Comrade Rudd insert common sense chips into every new born child and hope things improve for the next generation.

I like the cut of nathan’s jib too (post #19).

ant ant 12:15 pm 12 Dec 08

during Ski Season, the NSW cops have a range of stealth cars, with ski racks, stickers, cushions on the shelf etc.

Unmarked/stealth cars have to be numerous and regular to have deterrant effect though. Just the odd one soemtimes is useless. they need to blitz the city with them, and then keep it up to a lesser extent. they have to get drivers worried that they’re always out there.

caf caf 12:09 pm 12 Dec 08

Danman: Like this?

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