The long arm of store security in Woden

Basilbrush said :

buzz819 said :

Basilbrush said :

I saw a young kid at the Gungahlin shopping centre steal a phone from one of the shops and was caught by the centre security…..and the police arrived and let him go coz security were too rough with him. What the? He then walked off laughing.

Yeah, I’m sure that is exactly what happened?

You stood and listened to the entire conversation etc?

Well yes I did actually….why would I then write something not true?

So, you’ve been on the internet before this?

I enjoy taking photos. Do I need a better reason? I mostly take photos of the food in Westfield Woden. I also take photos of poor parking attempts, funny signs, people in silly hats, advertisements for specials my wife might be interested in, and sometimes incidents like in the video above.

What other types of people take photos and videos in shopping centres? Lots. Westfield employees are big fans of the activity, too. They have cameras everywhere. Just look up. They even record images of other people’s kids (which sounds kinda creepy).

bearlikesbeer said :

Westfield Woden is private property. Westfield Woden has a photography policy. Westfield security has approached me on several occasions and directed me to stop taking pics within the centre, and to delete any photos/video I’ve taken (on my phone). Westfield is well within its rights to enforce its photography policy, but I think ordering people to delete photos/videos is a bit rich. Each time I’ve refused Westfield security’s direction to delete pics I’ve been escorted out.

Trying to think of a reason why you are repeatedly taking photos/videos in shopping centres…

I’m sure there’s a good reason, but consider this: what other types of people take photos and videos in shopping centres?

Westfield Woden is private property. Westfield Woden has a photography policy. Westfield security has approached me on several occasions and directed me to stop taking pics within the centre, and to delete any photos/video I’ve taken (on my phone). Westfield is well within its rights to enforce its photography policy, but I think ordering people to delete photos/videos is a bit rich. Each time I’ve refused Westfield security’s direction to delete pics I’ve been escorted out.

buzz819 said :

Basilbrush said :

I saw a young kid at the Gungahlin shopping centre steal a phone from one of the shops and was caught by the centre security…..and the police arrived and let him go coz security were too rough with him. What the? He then walked off laughing.

Yeah, I’m sure that is exactly what happened?

You stood and listened to the entire conversation etc?

Well yes I did actually….why would I then write something not true?

gooterz said :

buzz819 said :

gooterz said :

Seemed more like the dude in black wanted a chance to chase him so gave him some room to do the runner.

I love it, if security hold someone down it is assault, if they give someone a chance to not be man-handled and that person does the runner it is because security wanted to chase after them. Good, good.

Once they caught him everyone just walked away. If you arrest someone you call the cops first thing not the Mall rent a cops. Then you get more than just one person to stand next to the thief.

Most places have a security room that can be locked until them cops arrive. It all just looked sloppy and they let someone film most of it.

Be interesting to see them try and stop someone filming.

Basilbrush said :

I saw a young kid at the Gungahlin shopping centre steal a phone from one of the shops and was caught by the centre security…..and the police arrived and let him go coz security were too rough with him. What the? He then walked off laughing.

Yeah, I’m sure that is exactly what happened?

You stood and listened to the entire conversation etc?

gooterz said :

buzz819 said :

gooterz said :

Seemed more like the dude in black wanted a chance to chase him so gave him some room to do the runner.

I love it, if security hold someone down it is assault, if they give someone a chance to not be man-handled and that person does the runner it is because security wanted to chase after them. Good, good.

Once they caught him everyone just walked away. If you arrest someone you call the cops first thing not the Mall rent a cops. Then you get more than just one person to stand next to the thief.

Most places have a security room that can be locked until them cops arrive. It all just looked sloppy and they let someone film most of it.

Ok, so how now you are saying that shop keepers should take the role of moving people they have caught stealing into the security room, without calling for security to attend? Also that people should be dragged to that room regardless, without been given the chance of “coming along” nicely?

They let someone film most of it… I’m pretty sure you will find the WHOLE thing was filmed by centre closed circuit television systems AND it was in a public place, so how could they stop someone from filming it?

I saw a young kid at the Gungahlin shopping centre steal a phone from one of the shops and was caught by the centre security…..and the police arrived and let him go coz security were too rough with him. What the? He then walked off laughing.

buzz819 said :

gooterz said :

Seemed more like the dude in black wanted a chance to chase him so gave him some room to do the runner.

I love it, if security hold someone down it is assault, if they give someone a chance to not be man-handled and that person does the runner it is because security wanted to chase after them. Good, good.

Once they caught him everyone just walked away. If you arrest someone you call the cops first thing not the Mall rent a cops. Then you get more than just one person to stand next to the thief.

Most places have a security room that can be locked until them cops arrive. It all just looked sloppy and they let someone film most of it.

gooterz said :

Seemed more like the dude in black wanted a chance to chase him so gave him some room to do the runner.

I love it, if security hold someone down it is assault, if they give someone a chance to not be man-handled and that person does the runner it is because security wanted to chase after them. Good, good.

gooterz said :

Why not just hold him for until the cops come (rather than security)?

People being held down get worked up further, it could aggravate the situation. Also, it makes more of a scene.

gooterz said :

I don’t like thieves but isn’t that assault?

Oh, I do hope so, a good assaulting would be a fine thing.

In fact, why not take him out the back and assault him some more, just for the educational value.

Nice to see the toy cops doing something constructive… Doesn’t happen often in Woden.

c_c™ said :

gooterz said :

I don’t like thieves but isn’t that assault?

If you listen to the audio, you’ll hear a bystander asking a gentleman if he was okay and suggesting applying ice, he had been knocked down by the guy as he ran. At that point restraint was an issue of public safety.

Remember, this video doesn’t show the first minute.

Then they gave him a talking to without restraint which he tries to make a runner a few times.
Why not just hold him for until the cops come (rather than security)? Seemed more like the dude in black wanted a chance to chase him so gave him some room to do the runner.

gooterz said :

I don’t like thieves but isn’t that assault?

If you listen to the audio, you’ll hear a bystander asking a gentleman if he was okay and suggesting applying ice, he had been knocked down by the guy as he ran. At that point restraint was an issue of public safety.

Remember, this video doesn’t show the first minute.

gooterz said :

I don’t like thieves but isn’t that assault?

How do you figure?

Check out the sticky beaks and rubber neckers though!

Especially the old guy who stop and stands there watching.

I blame Big Brother!

I don’t like thieves but isn’t that assault?

Could be a meme in there.