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The return of the Golliwog?

Skidbladnir 16 December 2011 57

golliwogs

Have you seen many golliwogs around town?

There’s a shop in Tuggeranong with a front window packed full of them, claiming they’re again quite the popular toy for children.


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Thoroughly Smashed 8:44 pm 19 Dec 11

Thoroughly Smashed said :

shirty_bear said :

Wrong time in history to be a white Anglo-Saxon male.

Comedy f***ing gold.

Maybe I should address this seriously, assuming it isn’t a joke, and challenge shirty_bear to name a time in history he/she thinks was better for white anglo-saxon males?

Classified 6:22 pm 19 Dec 11

alaninoz said :

Classified said :

When I was a small child, a relative sent me a t-shirt from PNG which had an image of a black kid with fuzzy hair on it, and a message in Pidgin that translated to “me the little monkey belong in Lae”.

Different times.

Manki – boy or youth in Tok Pisin, hence skul manki.

Thanks for that. It still seemed kinda inappropriate, but probably no worse than my T-Shirt with a stripper on it that says “I supported single moms in Las Vegas”.

alaninoz 4:55 pm 19 Dec 11

Classified said :

When I was a small child, a relative sent me a t-shirt from PNG which had an image of a black kid with fuzzy hair on it, and a message in Pidgin that translated to “me the little monkey belong in Lae”.

Different times.

Manki – boy or youth in Tok Pisin, hence skul manki.

Lillypilly 4:39 pm 19 Dec 11

Surely Godwin’s law isn’t far off the way this is heading.

Thoroughly Smashed 4:24 pm 19 Dec 11

shirty_bear said :

Wrong time in history to be a white Anglo-Saxon male.

Comedy f***ing gold.

shadow boxer 4:12 pm 19 Dec 11

Mysteryman said

Do you hold the view that all stuffed toys, dolls, and action figures “serve no purpose”, or just the ones that you choose to take offence with?

shadow boxer said :

Quite a sad thread really, if people are offended they are offended. If they are offended on racial grounds then just accept it for what it is and move on.

The kids don’t need or want these things and they serve no purpose.

Insisting on having them to make some perceived point is just being a douchebag.

Do you hold the view that all stuffed toys, dolls, and action figures “serve no purpose”, or just the ones that you choose to take offence with?

No, based on their history I think it’s just these ones, I guess you could find others if you looked hard enough.

Kerehona 3:54 pm 19 Dec 11

shirty_bear said :

bearlikesbeer said :

Kerehona, if your Maori brother is keen on visiting people perhaps this address will interest him:

Coon Cheese
Australian Co-operative Foods Ltd.
Quad 1, 8 Parkview Drive
Sydney Olympic Park, NSW 2127

Best don’t let him anywhere near this though:
http://www.snackbrands.com.au/index.php/products/view/samboy

And Angelina says don’t get your knickers in a knot?

Mysteryman 3:42 pm 19 Dec 11

shadow boxer said :

Quite a sad thread really, if people are offended they are offended. If they are offended on racial grounds then just accept it for what it is and move on.

The kids don’t need or want these things and they serve no purpose.

Insisting on having them to make some perceived point is just being a douchebag.

Do you hold the view that all stuffed toys, dolls, and action figures “serve no purpose”, or just the ones that you choose to take offence with?

00davist 3:35 pm 19 Dec 11

Kerehona said :

JC said :

chewy14 said :

Racccccciiiiiiisssssssstttttttt!!!!!!!!!!!!

Please explain……how it is racist?

This is why Australia is full of racists

Seriosly?

Wow, I hope your trying to either be funny or provocative, becase otherwise you’re really not the sharpest knife in the draw mate.

Or perhaps your just racist?

shadow boxer 3:31 pm 19 Dec 11

Quite a sad thread really, if people are offended they are offended. If they are offended on racial grounds then just accept it for what it is and move on.

The kids don’t need or want these things and they serve no purpose.

Insisting on having them to make some perceived point is just being a douchebag.

Kerehona 3:30 pm 19 Dec 11

no offence (shirty bear) but you’re boring

Classified 3:21 pm 19 Dec 11

shirty_bear said :

Dilandach said :

Why doesn’t anyone get up in arms when a black guy calls some white guy ‘cracker’? Its a derogatory term but the difference is, no one loses any sleep over it.

This.

Not to mention the Amerafricans calling themselves/each other “niggah”. I think I made up “Amerafrican” coz christ knows what’s safe to use these days.

Where’s the tribunal for me to run to when I get called “gweilo”? Or when “affirmative action” promotes an inept woman straight past me? Wrong time in history to be a white Anglo-Saxon male.

(And yes, I know such things are meant to right historical wrongs. Makes me no less discriminated against right now. OK, fire away.)

It’s a brave new world.

shirty_bear 3:07 pm 19 Dec 11

Dilandach said :

Why doesn’t anyone get up in arms when a black guy calls some white guy ‘cracker’? Its a derogatory term but the difference is, no one loses any sleep over it.

This.

Not to mention the Amerafricans calling themselves/each other “niggah”. I think I made up “Amerafrican” coz christ knows what’s safe to use these days.

Where’s the tribunal for me to run to when I get called “gweilo”? Or when “affirmative action” promotes an inept woman straight past me? Wrong time in history to be a white Anglo-Saxon male.

(And yes, I know such things are meant to right historical wrongs. Makes me no less discriminated against right now. OK, fire away.)

Dilandach 2:46 pm 19 Dec 11

Kerehona said :

It appears the cockroaches are scuttling out from under the woodwork – and they’re everywhere.

I get the sense that this forum is full of people who get off on their own sense of self importance and how creative their insults. He Golliwogs tend to offend people is all I am saying – its a fact.

Only when people go looking for offensiveness. Did your ‘brother’ get offended with the cricket themed KFC ad with the guy eating chicken surrounded by the other team and offered them some KFC as a peace offering? “Oh my stars! Offering black people fried chicken! that’s obviously racist!”

Why doesn’t anyone get up in arms when a black guy calls some white guy ‘cracker’? Its a derogatory term but the difference is, no one loses any sleep over it.

Classified 2:39 pm 19 Dec 11

When I was a small child, a relative sent me a t-shirt from PNG which had an image of a black kid with fuzzy hair on it, and a message in Pidgin that translated to “me the little monkey belong in Lae”.

Different times.

Kerehona 2:39 pm 19 Dec 11

It appears the cockroaches are scuttling out from under the woodwork – and they’re everywhere.

I get the sense that this forum is full of people who get off on their own sense of self importance and how creative their insults. He Golliwogs tend to offend people is all I am saying – its a fact.

shirty_bear 2:31 pm 19 Dec 11

bearlikesbeer said :

Kerehona, if your Maori brother is keen on visiting people perhaps this address will interest him:

Coon Cheese
Australian Co-operative Foods Ltd.
Quad 1, 8 Parkview Drive
Sydney Olympic Park, NSW 2127

Best don’t let him anywhere near this though:
http://www.snackbrands.com.au/index.php/products/view/samboy

p1 2:24 pm 19 Dec 11

Something about this thread reminds me of the outrage in the US about the KFC ad with the West Indies cricke fans and the bucket of fried chicken…

Mysteryman 2:22 pm 19 Dec 11

Kerehona said :

Deref said :

Kerehona said :

Deref: Do you have evidence that they’re offensive and to whom? Are they any more offensive than, say, Barbie dolls? Cabbage Patch dolls are, no doubt, sold in non-white communities and they’re definitely caricatures – are we white folks offended by that?

There are plenty of things that we really should be offended about. Perhaps we shouldn’t sweat the petty things.

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I’d like to see you tell that to my Maori brother

If your Maori brother is offended by things that aren’t intended to be offensive, how does he react to things that are intended to be offensive?

Clever response, but still ignorant in attitude. Like I said, tell him yourself. Post your name and address and see if you can back it up.

I have a better idea. Why don’t you post your “tough guy” brother’s name and address and we’ll mail him a doll.

Deref 1:26 pm 19 Dec 11

Kerehona said :

Deref said :

Kerehona said :

Deref: Do you have evidence that they’re offensive and to whom? Are they any more offensive than, say, Barbie dolls? Cabbage Patch dolls are, no doubt, sold in non-white communities and they’re definitely caricatures – are we white folks offended by that?

There are plenty of things that we really should be offended about. Perhaps we shouldn’t sweat the petty things.

—–

I’d like to see you tell that to my Maori brother

If your Maori brother is offended by things that aren’t intended to be offensive, how does he react to things that are intended to be offensive?

Clever response, but still ignorant in attitude. Like I said, tell him yourself. Post your name and address and see if you can back it up.

Do I detect a hit of threat?

If your brother had my address, how would he respond, Kerehona? Would he sit down and have a rational discussion about it over a cup of coffee? I get the impression that you’re implying that he’d be more likely to resort to violence. If that’s the case then he clearly has some significant psychological problems for which he should seek help.

If you’re implying that I’m a racist, my Aboriginal, Chinese and US Black friends would find that implication highly amusing. Well, actually, they’d find it highly offensive. But they wouldn’t get violent about it.

“Ignorant”? OK – I’m happy to accept that. I’m always grateful for being better informed.

Kerehona said :

shadow boxer said :

http://www.ferris.edu/jimcrow/golliwog/

If you are a nine year old girl that finds stuffed dolls with oversized eyes and lips and block primary colours appealing I suggest you stick to Panda’s and the Wiggles. If you are a thinking adult help consign this thing to the dustbin of a less enlightened time.

That is a good explanation about why Golliwogs are offensive – I wonder if these people who have alternative views actually would want to read it? Would they then be enlightened to actually change their perspectives?

I did, and it’s certainly made me better informed. It seems that the creator of golliwogs intended them to be racist and offensive. Perhaps a product of a less-enlightened age, but that doesn’t make it any more acceptable now. My examples of Barbie and Cabbage Patch dolls don’t fit that mould – they weren’t intended to be offensive.

Perhaps the best approach would be to give copies of that article to the people selling golliwogs. I suspect that if they knew the background they might be less inclined to sell them.

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