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Tuggeranong Carpark; Traffic Crossings

By Col1234 - 6 March 2013 22

It seems there is a crash just about every morning on the parkway at the moment.

They are doing roadworks everywhere so the traffic every morning/afternoon is crazy.  

Also what’s the go with the speed bumps and crossing they have put in on McCullock St in Curtin,

I know people need to cross the road but 3 crossing must be overkill.

Col

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Tuggeranong Carpark; Traffic Crossings
JimCharles 9:10 pm 28 Mar 13

G-Fresh said :

I think I got air off one of those new speed humps in Curtin… Wasn’t racing anyone and it was not yet signposted or marked with line marking… Dark rainy night.

I nearly splattered a cyclist on there about a month ago.
He just rode his bike straight off the footpath and crossed about 15 feet in front of me, the tarmac had hardly even set and it wasn’t marked, signposted, or in use.
I just sat back and laughed in disbelief until he gave me a dirty look, so he did get a good blast of traditional anglo saxon to set him on his merry way.

Jono 6:37 pm 28 Mar 13

tim_c said :

And do you think these people only drive like this on McCulloch Street, or is it simply reflective of a bigger problem? As I said, it was the result of a NIMBY campaign – by putting ‘inverted-potholes’ and traffic islands across the width of McCulloch Street, you’re only dealing with the McCulloch Street being treated like the top of Mt Panorama, and not influencing driver behaviour on any other road. And that’s what NIMBY means: it’s okay, as long as it’s “Not In My Back Yard”.

Interesting – so if you see something dangerous happening on your street, you shouldn’t suggest improvements in your street, because that’s being a NIMBY. You should make yourself aware of everywhere that it happens and make it clear to the authorities that they shouldn’t do anything in your street unless and until they fix it everywhere.

So, if I live in a street where I see children crossing the road to get to school, and I believe that to be dangerous, I shouldn’t suggest the implementation of a school crossing, because that’s fixing the problem that I see “in my back yard”, and not fixing it everywhere that it occurs in Australia.

Very deep – you’re a real thinker, aren’t you?

c_c™ 6:17 pm 28 Mar 13

gooterz said :

Parkway crashes are a result of the parkway being too narrow only 2 lanes and no rail PT link between civic and tuggeranong.

No, Parkway crashes are the result of people driving like f-wits. No doubt two lanes makes the Parkway slower than it could be, and they really should remove the need to merge at Weston and Cotter Rd (hate to think what will happen when Molonglo is finished), but there’s still no reason that should cause accidents if people take care.

Innovation 4:50 pm 28 Mar 13

tim_c said :

The speedbumps in Curtin are the result of a NIMBY campaign where people save money by buying a house on the main street in/out of the suburb, and then winge to the government that people keep driving past their house. The same as Flinders Way in Griffith, and there’s also a lot of NIMBYs pushing for them for Streeton Drive, Rivett.

Tony Gill said the speedbumps on Flinders Way were necessary because there were “15 per cent of motorists travelling at 63 kilometres per hour or more”. In other words, because 15% of the drivers were exceeding the speed limit by as little as 3 km/h or 5%, he thought it would be better to inconvenience the 85% of the drivers who were doing the right thing, rather than posting Mr Plod there occasionally with a radar to penalise the 15% who don’t seem to know how to read their speedometers.

I agree that the speed humps are irritating but if these NIMBYs are successful in slowing traffic down in their area, good on them. A better design though would be to narrow the roads, create chicane like kerbing and traffic islands and drop the overall speed limit to 40 or 50km/h. Much more efficient than constant accelerating and braking.

gooterz 4:32 pm 28 Mar 13

rigseismic67 said :

it will get a lot better when all the new McMansion dwellers need to get out of their new badly designed suburbs on Cotter Road……….

But wont they use the new light rail? Oh wait that’s years away and only for Gungahlin.

Its amazing how we now have money for light rail, redo all of civic and to put a tunnel all the way along Parkes way. Yet the dear old parkway gets sweet FA.

gazket 3:28 pm 28 Mar 13

gazket said :

The new McCulloch Street speed humps / crossings will become burnout pads.

A better and cheaper option would of been to paint a island in the center of the road and a painted line on the gutter side to narrow the 2 lanes and split the traffic.

gazket 3:22 pm 28 Mar 13

The new McCulloch Street speed humps / crossings will become burnout pads.

tim_c 3:00 pm 28 Mar 13

dph said :

tim_c said :

The speedbumps in Curtin are the result of a NIMBY campaign where people save money by buying a house on the main street in/out of the suburb, and then winge to the government that people keep driving past their house.

As a local (live nearby), you couldn’t be more wrong. I’ve witnessed a number of incidents on that

I recently came to aid of an elderly lady, along with a couple of other motorists who’d witnessed her being run off the road by two cars racing each other. A few yrs back I saw dog get run over by something similar.

The worst part is the approach to the first roundabout as you turn off Carruthers St. They’ve placed a large speed bump there to slow traffic right down. However, many seem happy to swerve onto the other side of the road in order to avoid the speed bumps.

You can definitely thank the many idiots over the yrs, who’ve treated McCulloch Street like it was the top of Mt Panorama.

And do you think these people only drive like this on McCulloch Street, or is it simply reflective of a bigger problem? As I said, it was the result of a NIMBY campaign – by putting ‘inverted-potholes’ and traffic islands across the width of McCulloch Street, you’re only dealing with the McCulloch Street being treated like the top of Mt Panorama, and not influencing driver behaviour on any other road. And that’s what NIMBY means: it’s okay, as long as it’s “Not In My Back Yard”.

rigseismic67 9:08 am 12 Mar 13

it will get a lot better when all the new McMansion dwellers need to get out of their new badly designed suburbs on Cotter Road……….

dph 12:38 pm 07 Mar 13

As a local, the speed bumps & crossings on McCulloch Street in Curtin are definitely

tim_c said :

The speedbumps in Curtin are the result of a NIMBY campaign where people save money by buying a house on the main street in/out of the suburb, and then winge to the government that people keep driving past their house.

As a local (live nearby), you couldn’t be more wrong. I’ve witnessed a number of incidents on that

I recently came to aid of an elderly lady, along with a couple of other motorists who’d witnessed her being run off the road by two cars racing each other. A few yrs back I saw dog get run over by something similar.

The worst part is the approach to the first roundabout as you turn off Carruthers St. They’ve placed a large speed bump there to slow traffic right down. However, many seem happy to swerve onto the other side of the road in order to avoid the speed bumps.

You can definitely thank the many idiots over the yrs, who’ve treated McCulloch Street like it was the top of Mt Panorama.

tim_c 11:25 am 07 Mar 13

The speedbumps in Curtin are the result of a NIMBY campaign where people save money by buying a house on the main street in/out of the suburb, and then winge to the government that people keep driving past their house. The same as Flinders Way in Griffith, and there’s also a lot of NIMBYs pushing for them for Streeton Drive, Rivett.

Tony Gill said the speedbumps on Flinders Way were necessary because there were “15 per cent of motorists travelling at 63 kilometres per hour or more”. In other words, because 15% of the drivers were exceeding the speed limit by as little as 3 km/h or 5%, he thought it would be better to inconvenience the 85% of the drivers who were doing the right thing, rather than posting Mr Plod there occasionally with a radar to penalise the 15% who don’t seem to know how to read their speedometers.

Spiral 10:22 am 07 Mar 13

The Glenlock interchange used to allow you to turn left off William Hovell on to Caswell and head up past Black Mountain towards Calvary Hospital.

Since the redevelopment it seems you can’t turn left from William Hovell on to the GDE and head up that way.

I suppose there probably isn’t much requirement for people to do that so they probably removed that functionality.

G-Fresh 10:21 am 07 Mar 13

I think I got air off one of those new speed humps in Curtin… Wasn’t racing anyone and it was not yet signposted or marked with line marking… Dark rainy night.

Chop71 9:59 am 07 Mar 13

Why should William Hovel traffic going to Woden / Tuggeranong have to wait and congest with the civic traffic that is banked up on Parkes Way?

gooterz 12:45 am 07 Mar 13

To avoid spending money they waste money.

New speed bumps means people tend not to rat race.

Parkway crashes are a result of the parkway being too narrow only 2 lanes and no rail PT link between civic and tuggeranong.

Glenlock interchange used to have 2 lanes going to civic now it has 1 which is a turn off from the GDE.

William hovel drive has priority going to parkes way yet most of the traffic changes direction at GE. stupid planning

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