Weekend detention for the ACT's biggest child smut monger [With poll]

How? How did this happen?

Our PM wants to hand over Assange (a guy who broke no laws) to the yanks for torture, but this PAEDOPHILE is given weekend detention for only a year.

HOW?

The Frots said :

TheQueenOfHearts said :

As a mother of a young child, i find this disturbing…
I was there yeserday when He had his sentence read out.(not for him, for someone else)
Neild stated the dude who committed the offence, lived alone had no family or friends and didnt work.
said he had mental health problems and if he was to serve fulltime in a custodial sentence he would be victim of taunts by other prisoners and have to be kept in protection his entire sentence.
12months pereodic detention and a good behaviour order for (ithink) 12 months in my opinion is quite weak.
I like Nields Style, but this was a bit of a “wtf moment”

Agree – pathetic.

By the way, how did your friend go today?

Like frig, The guy clearly did wrong and should be punised for his actions,
&
ajourned til another date….
Thanks for your concern 🙂

TheQueenOfHearts said :

As a mother of a young child, i find this disturbing…
I was there yeserday when He had his sentence read out.(not for him, for someone else)
Neild stated the dude who committed the offence, lived alone had no family or friends and didnt work.
said he had mental health problems and if he was to serve fulltime in a custodial sentence he would be victim of taunts by other prisoners and have to be kept in protection his entire sentence.
12months pereodic detention and a good behaviour order for (ithink) 12 months in my opinion is quite weak.
I like Nields Style, but this was a bit of a “wtf moment”

Agree – pathetic.

By the way, how did your friend go today?

As a mother of a young child, i find this disturbing…
I was there yeserday when He had his sentence read out.(not for him, for someone else)
Neild stated the dude who committed the offence, lived alone had no family or friends and didnt work.
said he had mental health problems and if he was to serve fulltime in a custodial sentence he would be victim of taunts by other prisoners and have to be kept in protection his entire sentence.
12months pereodic detention and a good behaviour order for (ithink) 12 months in my opinion is quite weak.
I like Nields Style, but this was a bit of a “wtf moment”

breda said :

I am no fan of kiddie porn, but people need to engage with the facts. Do a few quick sums, and it is clear that no-one can have even a passing acquaintance with the contents of 700,000 files, images and videos.

His work may well be a treasure trove for investigators, and save them a lot of work.

I think that he is a probably harmless nerd/loser, and that Neild has got it right.

Facts? No facts there.

You imply that because of the vast quantity of sick filth he can’t be aquainted with it.

Fact? Hell no.

Assumption? Damn right.

You don’t think he might have his sick favourites?

You imply his crime would be more serious if he had fewer degenerate videos to “procrastinate” over. Give me a break.

Evidence may aid police?
Maybe but why be so lenient, they caught him and don’t need to bargain with him to the extent he escapes jail.

Harmless Nerd?
I suppose you’d let him baby sit your underage daughter, niece, cousin, sister.

Nield has got it right?
Wrong again.

Im happy to engage in facts, let me know when youv’e found some.

colourful sydney racing identity said :

Again, why are you avoiding the question? Is it because you don’t believe that selling drugs to children is a form of abuse? Or, is it because your organisation won’t pursue other bikies?

First and foremost: If I see anyone selling drugs to kids I will act as will every member of BACA however I would put money on the fact that if you were to witness such an act you would run off and maybe just maybe call the police but that’s about it. I see you as a keyboard warrior who has little if any knowledge of what is actually going on the real world no matter how much you little mind tells you otherwise.

Secondly: this really is getting tedious I nor any member of BACA are Bikies do you comprehend that simple fact?

So are we straight now?

Now I have only one question for you:

Why is your only aim here to denigrate an organisation and its members and supporters who’s ONLY aim is to help children live without fear?

And finally if you respond with any more drivel I will simply ignore your comments because unlike yourself I have worthwhile things to do with my time. Good luck with the therapy.

501-C-3 tax exempt organization? You do realise that refers to US legislation? Do you really have anything to do with this organisation or motorcycle clubs in general?

Again, why are you avoiding the question? Is it because you don’t believe that selling drugs to children is a form of abuse? Or, is it because your organisation won’t pursue other bikies?

colourful sydney racing identity said :

Also Sgt, I note in the FAQ’s
http://bacaworld.org/about/faqs/
What is required to become a member of BACA?

To become a full-patched BACA member a person must have regular access to a motorcycle that will do the speed limit.

Sounds a little like a ‘motorcycle club’ to me…

What is Bikers Against Child Abuse (BACA) Inc.?

Bikers Against Child Abuse, Inc. (BACA) is a non-profit, 501-C-3 tax exempt organization that exists to provide aid, comfort, safety, and support for children that have been sexually, physically, and emotionally abused. We are dedicated to the principle that one of the basic rights of childhood is to be safe and protected, and when the childs family and environment have failed them, we stand ready to provide it to them.

BACA is a strong organization of dedicated individuals that are willing to sacrifice any and all in order to protect and secure the childrens basic right to a happy childhood.

B.A.C.A is NOT a motorcycle club but quite clearly if the term Biker is used in the name then a person ‘with any degree of intelligence at all’ would expect that it’s members actually ride a motorcycle same as members of a Darts club are actually expected to have or have access to darts.

Please the more you make statements of this ilk the more people realise that your IQ is obviously on par with a gnat

SgtSlaughter said :

colourful sydney racing identity said :

I was just wondering whether you also go after OMC’s who deal drugs to children. Do you?

Oh my god you really are an imbecile.

If you know specifics of anyone selling drugs to anyone let alone children I suggest you grow a backbone and do something about it.

Why are you avoiding the question? Is it because you don’t believe that selling drugs to children is a form of abuse? Or, is it because your organisation won’t pursue other bikies?

colourful sydney racing identity said :

I was just wondering whether you also go after OMC’s who deal drugs to children. Do you?

Oh my god you really are an imbecile.

If you know specifics of anyone selling drugs to anyone let alone children I suggest you grow a backbone and do something about it.

Also Sgt, I note in the FAQ’s
http://bacaworld.org/about/faqs/
What is required to become a member of BACA?

To become a full-patched BACA member a person must have regular access to a motorcycle that will do the speed limit.

Sounds a little like a ‘motorcycle club’ to me…

SgtSlaughter said :

colourful sydney racing identity said :

So how does that fit in with OMC’s peddling drugs?

May I suggest that you go to see a Doctor because quite clearly you have a problem FOOL.

B.A.C.A is NOT a motorcycle club let alone an OMC.

Please next time you even think about asking such an ill-considered mentally challenged question reflect on the following:

“It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt”

I was just wondering whether you also go after OMC’s who deal drugs to children. Do you?

colourful sydney racing identity said :

So how does that fit in with OMC’s peddling drugs?

May I suggest that you go to see a Doctor because quite clearly you have a problem FOOL.

B.A.C.A is NOT a motorcycle club let alone an OMC.

Please next time you even think about asking such an ill-considered mentally challenged question reflect on the following:

“It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt”

SgtSlaughter said :

The Frots said :

I just read the site – great work. Where can I get more info and a contact for this one!

Hi Frots, thanks for your support. I assume you live in Canberra? unfortunately Canberra does not have an active Chapter of BACA at this time, however if you contact the National President at scott@fubar.net.au he will gladly give you any information you need/want. “BACA Mission Statement

Bikers Against Child Abuse (BACA) exists with the intent to create a safer environment for abused children. We exist as a body of Bikers to empower children to not feel afraid of the world in which they live. We stand ready to lend support to our wounded friends by involving them with an established, united organization. We work in conjunction with local and state officials who are already in place to protect children. We desire to send a clear message to all involved with the abused child that this child is part of our organization, and that we are prepared to lend our physical and emotional support to them by affiliation, and our physical presence. We stand at the ready to shield these children from further abuse. We do not condone the use of violence or physical force in any manner, however, if circumstances arise such that we are the only obstacle preventing a child from further abuse, we stand ready to be that obstacle.”

So how does that fit in with OMC’s peddling drugs?

The Frots said :

I just read the site – great work. Where can I get more info and a contact for this one!

Hi Frots, thanks for your support. I assume you live in Canberra? unfortunately Canberra does not have an active Chapter of BACA at this time, however if you contact the National President at scott@fubar.net.au he will gladly give you any information you need/want. “BACA Mission Statement

Bikers Against Child Abuse (BACA) exists with the intent to create a safer environment for abused children. We exist as a body of Bikers to empower children to not feel afraid of the world in which they live. We stand ready to lend support to our wounded friends by involving them with an established, united organization. We work in conjunction with local and state officials who are already in place to protect children. We desire to send a clear message to all involved with the abused child that this child is part of our organization, and that we are prepared to lend our physical and emotional support to them by affiliation, and our physical presence. We stand at the ready to shield these children from further abuse. We do not condone the use of violence or physical force in any manner, however, if circumstances arise such that we are the only obstacle preventing a child from further abuse, we stand ready to be that obstacle.”

Jim Jones said :

John Moulis said :

I didn’t like something on television. Let’s ban it.

Whatever dude.

I’d support a ban on television.

Actually, that raises a point.

Every gov study and campaign says we should spend less time watching TV. So why is the gov spending ass loads of money promoting and supplying set top boxes and delaying turning of analogue TV? Surely just turning it off and forcing all the people without a digital box to read a book or go outside would be cheaper, and have health benefits?

John Moulis said :

I didn’t like something on television. Let’s ban it.

Whatever dude.

p1 said :

That’s OK, I am going to lobby to have 2GB Nationalised, so that we can get the rightwing hatemongering loonies off the air, so their sick perversions are no longer funded.

Now now, p1, we both know that John loves getting on 2GB! If it is taken away from him, he may (heaven forbid!) post on RA more often… *shudders*

As for the sentence, it seems completely inadequate. That said, Justice Penfolds or ol’ mate Higgins would have ruffled this paedo’s hair, called him a cheeky rapscallion and sent him on his way with nothing.

John Moulis said :

I’m thinking of starting a lobby group to encourage Prime Minister Abbott next year to either privatise the ABC or else shift it to pay TV so the weirdos who work there and the fringe element who watch and listen to it will have to pay for the privilege and not have their perversions subsidised by the taxpayer.

That’s OK, I am going to lobby to have 2GB Nationalised, so that we can get the rightwing hatemongering loonies off the air, so their sick perversions are no longer funded.

John Moulis said :

I-filed said :

It’s not in the same ballpark, but still disturbing, that ABC TV saw fit to screen last night on Hungry Beast a lengthy segment featuring footage of a man creating graphic sex scenes between children’s soft toys. Unpleasant to watch and redolent of course of pedophilia. The topic was supposedly some form of therapy, but there was no reason to screen those scenes. Gratuitous and pornographic. After 25 years, looks as though the pedophile lobby may be back attempting to subvert the mainstream.

Nothing would surprise me about the ABC. They give airtime to the most moronic and wacky left wingers under the sun so encouraging pedophilia is a logical progression.

I’m thinking of starting a lobby group to encourage Prime Minister Abbott next year to either privatise the ABC or else shift it to pay TV so the weirdos who work there and the fringe element who watch and listen to it will have to pay for the privilege and not have their perversions subsidised by the taxpayer.

Can you please explain how this was encouraging pedophilia?

I-filed said :

It’s not in the same ballpark, but still disturbing, that ABC TV saw fit to screen last night on Hungry Beast a lengthy segment featuring footage of a man creating graphic sex scenes between children’s soft toys. Unpleasant to watch and redolent of course of pedophilia. The topic was supposedly some form of therapy, but there was no reason to screen those scenes. Gratuitous and pornographic. After 25 years, looks as though the pedophile lobby may be back attempting to subvert the mainstream.

Nothing would surprise me about the ABC. They give airtime to the most moronic and wacky left wingers under the sun so encouraging pedophilia is a logical progression.

I’m thinking of starting a lobby group to encourage Prime Minister Abbott next year to either privatise the ABC or else shift it to pay TV so the weirdos who work there and the fringe element who watch and listen to it will have to pay for the privilege and not have their perversions subsidised by the taxpayer.

Totally unreasonable sentence, internet porn is just the start for these creeps. Next it’s Asian brothels, then, children near home. We’ve got to nip this sickness in the bud. He should have been given a long jail term.
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“Real Men Don’t Do This”

beejay76 said :

I’m not generally a tougher-sentences-for-geography-teachers type, but seriously, periodic detention for a paedophile?? It offends me greatly.

I am also one that doesn’t jump on the laura norder band wagon, but have to say that at first blush, this sentence seems extremely lenient. I will wait until I can read the judges decision before I make up my mind though.

700,000 files equates to the biggest ACT haul ever; does 1 year weekend detention equate to the longest ACT sentence ever for this crime? If not, why bother chasing up this crime? It takes soooooo many AFP officers soooooo many hours a week to follow these criminals, to track them down and get them to court. This sentence is so light, it just makes me wonder why they even bother to invest so heavily in tracking the crime. The sentence gives a very clear message to offenders about how seriously governments and the justice system takes these crimes; which is rather much less then the community thinks is appropriate… This amounts to a (reasonably heavy handed) slap on the wrist; will it stop this guy offending? Un-bloody-likely…

I am no fan of kiddie porn, but people need to engage with the facts. Do a few quick sums, and it is clear that no-one can have even a passing acquaintance with the contents of 700,000 files, images and videos.

His work may well be a treasure trove for investigators, and save them a lot of work.

I think that he is a probably harmless nerd/loser, and that Neild has got it right.

At time of writting 5 out of 127 votes found the sentence fair and reasonable???

I’m all for free speech but its gotta make ya wonder.

Must have some judges voting.

I’d like to see a post by one of these individuals defending the sentence.

This sicko was accessing and publishing sick images. He wasn’t just jacking off over this stuff. I think the community expectation is a LOT more than 12 months periodic detention. Then again you barely get a slap on the wrist if you f#%$ a dog in Canberra.

gospeedygo said :

p1 said :

Do the polce

gospeedygo said :

Disks? What, the plastic things that hold 1.44mb a piece?

More likely Compact Disks or Hard Disks or Digital Versatile Disk.

Would have been a lot less confusing if they had of specified.

Those of us with common sense were able to figure that out without having it spelled out to us.

It’s not in the same ballpark, but still disturbing, that ABC TV saw fit to screen last night on Hungry Beast a lengthy segment featuring footage of a man creating graphic sex scenes between children’s soft toys. Unpleasant to watch and redolent of course of pedophilia. The topic was supposedly some form of therapy, but there was no reason to screen those scenes. Gratuitous and pornographic. After 25 years, looks as though the pedophile lobby may be back attempting to subvert the mainstream.

I’m not generally a tougher-sentences-for-geography-teachers type, but seriously, periodic detention for a paedophile?? It offends me greatly.

Acting Justice John Nield doesn’t regard it like stamp collecting. The report means Acting Justice John Nield said that Cooper seemed to regard it like stamp collecting. Not many Justices (acting or otherwise) think that crimes are stamp collecting (except maybe Grand Theft Stamps).

SgtSlaughter said :

As a co-founder of B.A.C.A (Bikers Against Child Abuse) in Australia I find a sentence of this nature obscene in the extreme the fact that anyone and I mean ANYONE could compare collecting 700,000 photos of children being sexually abused to stamp collecting abhorent to say the least. As for Justice ‘laughable’ John Nield [deleted] I hope to god you don’t have kids. For more information on B.A.C.A please go to http://australia.bacaworld.org/

I just read the site – great work. Where can I get more info and a contact for this one!

SgtSlaughter said :

As a co-founder of B.A.C.A (Bikers Against Child Abuse) in Australia I find a sentence of this nature obscene in the extreme the fact that anyone and I mean ANYONE could compare collecting 700,000 photos of children being sexually abused to stamp collecting abhorent to say the least…..

Well, the comparison (how ever sad) is probably fair. What I find disturbing is the sentence. We are usually told that the reason people viewing this material is so evil is that it provides a market for the material, and therefore a motivation for people to abuse children. Since this individual was actively seeking as much as possible, he has been driving the abuse of children, and his sentence should reflect that.

p1 said :

Do the polce

gospeedygo said :

Disks? What, the plastic things that hold 1.44mb a piece?

More likely Compact Disks or Hard Disks or Digital Versatile Disk.

Would have been a lot less confusing if they had of specified.

Cut his balls off!

As a co-founder of B.A.C.A (Bikers Against Child Abuse) in Australia I find a sentence of this nature obscene in the extreme the fact that anyone and I mean ANYONE could compare collecting 700,000 photos of children being sexually abused to stamp collecting abhorent to say the least. As for Justice ‘laughable’ John Nield [deleted] I hope to god you don’t have kids. For more information on B.A.C.A please go to http://australia.bacaworld.org/

Do the polce

gospeedygo said :

Disks? What, the plastic things that hold 1.44mb a piece?

More likely Compact Disks or Hard Disks or Digital Versatile Disk.

I wonder if the police give the hard drives back after wiping them? I assume not, but it raises interesting questions about physical storage versus simply owning/controlling data. I assume if you store your child pr0n in the cloud you can still be charged. Do the police remove the physical hard drives from google?

As a philatelist, this offends me.

Disks? What, the plastic things that hold 1.44mb a piece?

This is ridiculous. I thought that Justice Nield was looking like a great addition to an otherwise lacluster judiciary.

Periodic detention…………………? God help us all then!

What? So he can stay home and start a new collection? Hanging is too good for this loser.