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When will those cyclists learn to share?

By ThatUniStudent - 20 March 2012 71

I was reading this story on the news this morning about cyclists and their injuries, all caused by a lack of sharing apparently.

That’s right folks, cyclists should not have to share their bike paths with slow moving unregistered pedestrians. It causes accidents! This reminds me of another argument that goes along the lines of car drivers should not have to share their roads with slow moving unregistered cyclists, it causes accidents. It seems cyclists can’t share the road with cars, and can’t share bike tracks with pedestrians.

Now we’ve had dozens of threads about cyclists, pedestrians and cyclists, cars and cyclists, so you would think by now that the cyclists have learned that it is time to share. For some reason I still see silly buggers riding down parts of Canberra Avenue where there is no road bike lane, and totally ignore the bike path that runs along the north side of that busy road. I’ve seen them take on buses in the bus interchange. Yes, riding down the middle of the road, changing lanes at will, randomly and often enough to make you think they need riding lessons. Then there’s that idiot who rides down Commonwealth Avenue every morning who has road raged several buses and cars for “not leaving a gap wide enough for me to pass you” on the left. when it is illegal to pass because that’s creating another lane of traffic. Besides, he can pass on the footpath, that being perfectly legal here in the ACT.

I’m happy to share the road with these slow moving chicanes, yet they seem unhappy to share the road with cars, and unhappy to share the footpaths with pedestrians.

What’s Your opinion?


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When will those cyclists learn to share?
ThatUniStudent 11:19 am 20 Mar 12

Here’s a word people need to learn:
Sarcasm is “a sharp, bitter, or cutting expression or remark; a bitter jibe or taunt”,[1] usually conveyed through irony or understatement.[2] Most authorities distinguish sarcasm from irony;[3] however, others argue that sarcasm may or often does involve irony[4] or employs ambivalence.[5]

Dictionary.com describes the use of sarcasm thus:

In sarcasm, ridicule or mockery is used harshly, often crudely and contemptuously, for destructive purposes. It may be used in an indirect manner, and have the form of irony, as in “What a fine musician you turned out to be!” or it may be used in the form of a direct statement, “You couldn’t play one piece correctly if you had two assistants.” The distinctive quality of sarcasm is present in the spoken word and manifested chiefly by vocal intonation …[9]

I don’t give a toss about cyclists. But I know for some reason half the RA readers do. 😉
Of course I knew this would push the buttons of so many.

Hosinator 11:06 am 20 Mar 12

DUB said :

One thing I still wonder at times- WHY do I stop for cyclists who fly through pedestrian crossing? Dismount!! I don’t mind waiting.

Really, somehow I doubt that. My wife was an advocate of dismounting her bike and walking across a crossing, until she copped abuse on three seperate occassions by motorists telling her to stay on her bike and get the phark across faster.
She was preventing some Mark Webber wannabes from racing through a corner crossing at high speed.

HenryBG said :

Dilandach said :

A great big irritation of mine is walking with dil jr down near the library side of the lake where all the cafes are and having some armstrong wannabe riding full speed along the path closest to the lake. Anyone who has a three year old would understand they aren’t perfect little soldiers that will want to hold your hand and only march in step with you with eyes straight ahead. They’re kids. Especially around that area, its a good place for them to have a little run.

And having one of these clowns hit a small child at the speed they go at, would cause a lot of damage.

Its the feeling of entitlement that you get from cyclists as they race past without a care for anyone else. God forbid if you call them on the behaviour, be prepared for a speech on rights etc. Just don’t mention the risk of having to pry a toddler out of their spokes.

Exactly – the refuse the ride to the conditions, and when they do collide with a 4-year-old, they are the very opposite of remorseful, as I have personally experienced. Pure selfishness, and they want our rates to pay for yet more under-utilised cycling infrastructure.

Underutilised, not for much longer, read the strategy… http://the-riotact.com/a-ring-road-for-canberra/68065

niftydog 11:03 am 20 Mar 12

Dilandach said :

Its the feeling of entitlement that you get from cyclists…

The projecting of perceived negative attitudes upon cyclists is part of the problem. Some people take the sound of a bell to be a sign of aggression and get all huffy. Even slowing down and crawling past seems to get some people hackles up – they just assume that the cyclist is angry because they had to slow down so they go straight on the attack.

DUB said :

One thing I still wonder at times- WHY do I stop for cyclists who fly through pedestrian crossing? Dismount!! I don’t mind waiting.

Awesome, that’s ONE driver who doesn’t mind waiting – now can you work on the operators of the other 258,000 registered vehicles in the ACT? Let me know when you get them all to agree. KTHXBYE! 🙂

6matt9 11:00 am 20 Mar 12

TheDancingDjinn said :

Alot of humans are just assholes – it’s not the mode of transport they choose.

+1. Agree 100%.

Sgt.Bungers 10:56 am 20 Mar 12

If there’s no foot path, cyclists need to take into account that there may well be a pedestrian on the cycle path around any bend.

If pedestrians are on a cycle path, they need to take into account that people on push bikes can approach at 15 to 30 km/h, thus should keep to one side and keep their dog on a lead.

If there’s no foot path, drivers need to take into account that there may well be a pedestrian walking on the side of the road.

If there’s no cycle lane, drivers need to take into account that there may well be a cyclist using a traffic lane.

Of course, none of this would be an issue (in Canberra) if it was possible to walk, cycle, or drive to and from major centres of Canberra via proper dedicated infrastructure for each road user group along our major transport corridors. We have the room.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?hl=en&v=P1RNisaWSbM&gl=US

Mysteryman 10:46 am 20 Mar 12

Oh geez… ANOTHER Car vs Bike thread? Is it 10am already?

And started by RA’s own whinger-extraordinaire, ThatUniStudent! We really are in for something special here, folks.

HenryBG 10:42 am 20 Mar 12

Dilandach said :

A great big irritation of mine is walking with dil jr down near the library side of the lake where all the cafes are and having some armstrong wannabe riding full speed along the path closest to the lake. Anyone who has a three year old would understand they aren’t perfect little soldiers that will want to hold your hand and only march in step with you with eyes straight ahead. They’re kids. Especially around that area, its a good place for them to have a little run.

And having one of these clowns hit a small child at the speed they go at, would cause a lot of damage.

Its the feeling of entitlement that you get from cyclists as they race past without a care for anyone else. God forbid if you call them on the behaviour, be prepared for a speech on rights etc. Just don’t mention the risk of having to pry a toddler out of their spokes.

Exactly – the refuse the ride to the conditions, and when they do collide with a 4-year-old, they are the very opposite of remorseful, as I have personally experienced. Pure selfishness, and they want our rates to pay for yet more under-utilised cycling infrastructure.

DUB 10:38 am 20 Mar 12

One thing I still wonder at times- WHY do I stop for cyclists who fly through pedestrian crossing? Dismount!! I don’t mind waiting.

Dilandach 10:35 am 20 Mar 12

A great big irritation of mine is walking with dil jr down near the library side of the lake where all the cafes are and having some armstrong wannabe riding full speed along the path closest to the lake. Anyone who has a three year old would understand they aren’t perfect little soldiers that will want to hold your hand and only march in step with you with eyes straight ahead. They’re kids. Especially around that area, its a good place for them to have a little run.

And having one of these clowns hit a small child at the speed they go at, would cause a lot of damage.

Its the feeling of entitlement that you get from cyclists as they race past without a care for anyone else. God forbid if you call them on the behaviour, be prepared for a speech on rights etc. Just don’t mention the risk of having to pry a toddler out of their spokes.

KB1971 10:26 am 20 Mar 12

Ahh TUS, someone boot you out from the bridge?

Rule 141 allows riders to pass on the left, rule number one you are incorrect on. Need I go on?

Bennop 10:22 am 20 Mar 12

“Now we’ve had dozens of threads about cyclists, pedestrians and cyclists, cars and cyclists, so you would think by now that the cyclists have learned that it is time to share. “

You infer that the article says cyclists don’t want to share. Thats not what it says. Then you go on a rant about it.

The article says that (the research suggests) cycle injuries may be reduced if cyclists did not have to share their lanes. Nowhere is a cyclists opinion mentioned.

Calm down bro.

Henry82 10:19 am 20 Mar 12

LOL news.com.au.

TheDancingDjinn 10:05 am 20 Mar 12

Alot of humans are just assholes – it’s not the mode of transport they choose.

DUB 10:03 am 20 Mar 12

Yes, some cyclists are plain vermin.Not all, just those described by OP.

Erg0 9:44 am 20 Mar 12

The most shocking thing for me is that 61% of cycling accidents on shared paths in the ACT involve neither a pedestrian or another cyclist. Are they hitting kangaroos or something?

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