21 October 2009

Canberrans triumph in the battle for Mount Ainslie

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[First Filed Oct 17, 2009]
Mount Ainslie was a glorious place to be this afternoon for a proud Canberran.

Victoria’s banjo country bused in to vilify our pagan community and Canberra turned up to shout them down, and laugh at them.

It was done with a laugh and a smile, resounding choruses of “We are Australian”, people dancing in their underpants, and men kissing to cries of “Heathen, Heathen” from the fundamentalists. (rejoined with proud shouts of “homo, homo” from the members of the crowd not wearing funny red tags).

Oddly, despite much advance media the police were not in attendance, so it was lucky the “Catch The Fire:” mob were not only outnumbered but also in general much older and frailer.

The anti-fundies had managed to gather in numbers around the Mt Ainslie beacon and after ten or so minutes of confrontation the fundamentalists, ringed by a looser crowd of Canberrans decided to retreat away, led by a man with a megaphone “speaking in tongues”.

I left just before three to update you all, hopefully it has stayed calm up there.

The Danes are understandably proud because when the Nazis came for the Danish Jews the Danes managed to evacuate the endangered members of their community to neutral Sweden.

In a smaller way I’m equally proud that Canberra turned out in good numbers to laugh at the forces of intolerance come to vilify members of our community.

Here’s some video and audio, not shot with a purpose built video camera sadly, but it gets across the spirit of the thing:

UPDATED: qednet has posted a more complete video account on the day on YouTube. It looks like I wasn’t the only one to wander off too early and the fundies got their moment on the beacon (not a comms tower).

ANOTHER UPDATE: The Age has picked up the yarn.

(Stills slideshow below)

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Muttsybignuts said :

“the Special Bonus Commandment hidden near the back?”

Maybe He hid it near the back to see if anyone actually read the whole book?

Or, does it only come with the limited edition, deluxe version?

It’s just before the fold-in.

Muttsybignuts10:23 am 23 Oct 09

“the Special Bonus Commandment hidden near the back?”

Maybe He hid it near the back to see if anyone actually read the whole book?

Or, does it only come with the limited edition, deluxe version?

@93 What’s your position on Christianity’s ten commandments? Just curious

Meh. Of the ten commandments, there are perhaps three good ones (murder, steal, false witness). The rest are either unjustified, dated, filler and/or just plain absurd.

just pick and choose one version that fits with your politcal agenda. ignore the rest.

VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy3:58 pm 22 Oct 09

Skidbladnir said :

VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy said :

What’s your position on Christianity’s ten commandments? Just curious 🙂

Which ten though, Vy?

The Exodus 20:1-20 Ten, or
Exodus 34:1-28 Ten, or
Deuteronomy 5:6-21 Ten, or
the Special Bonus Commandment hidden near the back?

The Exodus 34:1-28 set are the only ones called the Ten Commandments within text.

Let’s start with the basics, eh?

VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy said :

What’s your position on Christianity’s ten commandments? Just curious 🙂

Which ten though, Vy?

The Exodus 20:1-20 Ten, or
Exodus 34:1-28 Ten, or
Deuteronomy 5:6-21 Ten, or
the Special Bonus Commandment hidden near the back?

The Exodus 34:1-28 set are the only ones called the Ten Commandments within text.

VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy said :

Azerate said :

Evil? What is evil? It’s defined as anything morally objectionable, and since I stand against the morals and principles of Christianity then yes, I am most certainly committing evil acts on a daily basis, as are most people. I’m not evil in the traditional sense. I haven’t killed anyone, maimed anyone or burnt down a whole city. I’m just substantially adversarial.

What’s your position on Christianity’s ten commandments? Just curious 🙂

what is your position on the laws of this country, considering that they are based on the ten commandments, to a degree?

you haven’t killed anyone? great. what have you done that flaunts the law? what i have never understood in the whole issue of religious beliefs, is if you have been a christian, why do you have to follow the teachings of the church?

I am a christian. Gays? your choice. witches? good on you. People who listen to slayer? so do I.

I also meditate, practice crystal therapy and healing, and my priest really doesn’t give a sh*t. He is there for me to talk to, and help me learn to confront my problems head on.

I listen to motorhead, judas priest, Iron maiden, etc, etc. it is just music. I don’t feel the need to attack anyone after listening to it.

If a coven wants to go to Mt Ainslie and practise their rites, great. it is a nice change from the drunken tourists and parkers that go up there.

If you want to convert to christianity, go to a church. I don’t have the time nor the inclination to convert you.

I really think that non-religious people need to step back and just think about those of us who are religious. I want the same as most people. A job, food on the table, kids in clothes, and a roof over my head. My personal beliefs are just that. Personal.

And the loonies that stir up trouble from the christian camp, shame on you all. You have tarred us all with the same brush. And That is religious persecution.

MtAinslieWitches11:26 pm 21 Oct 09

Id call it the overenthusiasm of youth, and leave it at that.

93
Magister
Mt Ainslie Witches

Azerate:
Maybe it was just the editing, and they left out your reasonable logic and well structured arguments leading up to your “I Will Bring Down Christianity” statement.
But the video presents you as a dickhead.

Azerate said :

I haven’t killed anyone, maimed anyone or burnt down a whole city. I’m just substantially adversarial.

Well you’re a pretty half-baked Satanist then I must say and you were just having a lend of us. That list would make me a Satanist too.

Muttsybignuts4:29 pm 21 Oct 09

Danman said :

as well as great 80’s synthpop hits… Does that make someone evil ? Do I need to be saved ?

Sorry Howard Jones. Liking 80’s synthpop hits DEFINITELY MAKES YOU EVIL. Unless it is AHA. Those dudes roll!

Muttsybignuts4:23 pm 21 Oct 09

Azerate said :

Evil? What is evil? It’s defined as anything morally objectionable, and since I stand against the morals and principles of Christianity then yes, I am most certainly committing evil acts on a daily basis, as are most people. I’m not evil in the traditional sense. I haven’t killed anyone, maimed anyone or burnt down a whole city. I’m just substantially adversarial.

Sorry mate. I see what you are trying to say however in the youtube video you look like a bit of a tool. I think the whole ” I will single handedly bring down Christianity” threat didn’t do you any favours.
Separately I withdraw my comments about you probably not being into Slayer. I was too fat, old and lazy to bother to travel to Sydney to see them so if you made the effort then good on you. Kerry King is an ominous sight when in full flight.

VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy3:51 pm 21 Oct 09

Azerate said :

Evil? What is evil? It’s defined as anything morally objectionable, and since I stand against the morals and principles of Christianity then yes, I am most certainly committing evil acts on a daily basis, as are most people. I’m not evil in the traditional sense. I haven’t killed anyone, maimed anyone or burnt down a whole city. I’m just substantially adversarial.

What’s your position on Christianity’s ten commandments? Just curious 🙂

Azerate said :

I’m just substantially adversarial.

Well, you’ve peaked my curiousity.
What do you do that is substantially adversarial?

Evil? What is evil? It’s defined as anything morally objectionable, and since I stand against the morals and principles of Christianity then yes, I am most certainly committing evil acts on a daily basis, as are most people. I’m not evil in the traditional sense. I haven’t killed anyone, maimed anyone or burnt down a whole city. I’m just substantially adversarial.

Dannys whole trip WAS worthwhile.
As entertainment it was GOLD, I cant wait for his travelling circus to come back to town.
Oh oh, lets reclaim Mt Ainslie for Satan! Then he will have to come back, pitty Danny dosnt
realise, although I suspect he might, that he and his ministary are actually working for
Satan, and I have proof, sort of.
I do agree with Azerate, Danny is a Fu—– Wanker.

Azerate said :

For everyone’s information, my purpose was the same as that of the gays and the atheists – to protest. Although I am a Satanist, I don’t worship the Satan from the Judeo-Christian religion, nor do I ascribe to any principles of evil. I have a very healthy outlook, spiritually.

But, dear, no-one would be fussed about anyone idenfiying as a Satanist for fun or to assuage some innocuous inner drive – but you put yourself on the record – you said your charter, as part of your Satanism, is to “commit evil”. That’s a healthy spiritual outlook?

Azerate said :

I went up there to instill in the Christians the kind of innane and mendacious fear that I was indoctrinated with growing up in a Christian household.

Still, as far as he’s concerned, you probably made Danny’s whole trip worthwhile.

No, but I felt Nalliah’s disgusting breath far too close to my face.

Azerate said :

The exorcism that I allowed Nalliah to attempt to perform on me was completely out of my own curiosity…..

did you feel the powha brother?

For everyone’s information, my purpose was the same as that of the gays and the atheists – to protest. Although I am a Satanist, I don’t worship the Satan from the Judeo-Christian religion, nor do I ascribe to any principles of evil. I have a very healthy outlook, spiritually. I went up there to instill in the Christians (specifically Nalliah) the kind of innane and mendacious fear that I was indoctrinated with growing up in a Christian household. If they wanted something to fight against, I would give them that thing just to see if they were true to themselves about their religious convictions. Apart from shocking and blaspheming against them, I took the time to talk with people (even some of the Christians who were willing to listen) about the real state of the world and what Satanism is actually about. In the end I had a good laugh with my mates, which was what I’d intended to do that very morning when I decided to attend. The exorcism that I allowed Nalliah to attempt to perform on me was completely out of my own curiosity. And as a final note, I am a devoted Slayer fan. I saw them with Megadeth at the Hordern Pavilion on the 8th, and also at Luna Park last Thursday where they played all of Reign In Blood. Also attended Dave Lombardo’s drum clinic and got lots of shit signed by the man himself.

I keep telling you all, it’s not a triangle, it’s a “Y”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFEkBbhcGso

rippedanewone6:12 pm 20 Oct 09

I am so glad that another group turned up to peacefully counterbalance the nut jobs.

I do soooooo hope that someone informed the good pastor that Mt Ainslie is only one of the points of the triangle of the ebil Satanists. There are two other points of the triangle that need urgent cleansing.

That is of course according to the Canberra legend. You know, the one where teh Satinists are controlling parliament by enclosing it in a triangle and doin’ teh sacrifices.

I hope CTF (or Catch Teh Stupids as they should be known) come back and finish the job properly.

Honestly, we don’t need a Westboro Baptist Church of our own in Australia.

Shitstains.

PS, has anyone else besides me and mine heard this romour? I’d be keen to know how wide spread it is…

Pommy bastard said :

Rott Wheiler, Alsatian and German Shepherds? ROTFLMCO…

The man hasn’t even got the honesty to recognise when people were polite enough to let him and “team bigot” through….

He also fails to mention that the Rotty was older than methuselah. I wonder what jebus says about ‘spin’ in the bible?

He is a pastor acting like a pollie. If he acts like a politician then treat him like one. Protests and all.

Pommy bastard4:35 pm 20 Oct 09

Reading Mr Nailors account will give you a very clear picture of how delusional (and dangerous) the man is.

I loved this bit.

Many times the protesters blocked our path on the mountain, even using 6 very big dogs (Rott Wheiler, Alsatian, German Shepherds), but as I led the team of Christian prayer troopers right through their protest lines on several occasions, the fierce looking dogs simply moved aside and so did the protesters.

http://catchthefire.com.au/blog/2009/10/20/spiritual-warfare-prayer-mission-a-great-success-on-mount-ainslie-in-canberra-australia-by-pastor-daniel/#more-3081

Rott Wheiler, Alsatian and German Shepherds? ROTFLMCO…

The man hasn’t even got the honesty to recognise when people were polite enough to let him and “team bigot” through.

I only hope my work roster allows for me to attend the next demonstration against this bampot.

To allow this to go unopposed would be to give this rip off artist credibility, and would further his grip on the the minds of the weak, stupid and lonely who follow him.

These guys nailed it;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEAWPcbTw8k

Jim Jones said :

I respectfully disagree.

For a start, Tom Araya is Catholic. The anti-religious lyrical railing is good fun and all, but it’s a lyrical gimmick that’s become quite banal over the past few albums. The lyrics for Christ Illusion aren’t a patch on Reign in Blood (which is more concerned with Nazi death camps and the criminally insane, necrophobia, etc., than Christianity).

But about the fundies – you say that “reacting to these guys gives them power too. They thrive on this kind of stuff”. What power does it give them? I’d argue that they’d have more power left unopposed.

When individuals start to censor themselves or keep quiet because others are emotionally invested in bigotry and hatred: that is where enlightenment society starts to die.

Cool man speak up if you feel strongly enough about it for sure…

I know Tom said ”God doesn’t hate you man, but it’s a great album title’, and I know about the lyrics of the earlier albums, but the imagery is extremely anti-christian, which is what drew me to it in the first place…

I actually read the article on the ‘Catch the Fire’ website and it’s a little disturbing, misguided and quite mad really. They think what they’re doing is wonderful and they speak of ‘waging war’ and all sorts of messed up stuff.

I’d be going to their Church and protesting against them if I felt more passionate about it. But for me they really don’t have a message if there is no-one there to hear it and take it seriously that’s why I didn’t go.

If they turned up at a place where I was celebrating/worshipping, like a metal show, then yeah I would harrass them. Probabaly even make a trip out to their church and give them a taste of their own medicine in return. Maybe if people are so concerned and want to rally against them they should do that.

Incidentally, I think the dude in the Slayer shirt in the video came across as as big a tool as the Catch the Firies.

The whole activity was just a publicity stunt in my opinion.

Best thing about the photos on the Catch the Fire web page Ozhair is those double rainbows over Mt Ainslie.

Surely that’s a sign from the good lord that he/she loves gays.

Amen.

AngryHenry said :

I see what you’re saying Jim. But reacting to these guys gives them power too. They thrive on this kind of stuff.

I enjoy being demonised by them. Probably in the same way they enjoy people like me reacting to their bigotry, it gives them purpose to elevate themselves to whatever their idea of higher ground is.

In some ways one can’t exist without the other.

For example, my beloved Slayer wouldn’t exist as it does without Christianity to rebel against.

I respectfully disagree.

For a start, Tom Araya is Catholic. The anti-religious lyrical railing is good fun and all, but it’s a lyrical gimmick that’s become quite banal over the past few albums. The lyrics for Christ Illusion aren’t a patch on Reign in Blood (which is more concerned with Nazi death camps and the criminally insane, necrophobia, etc., than Christianity).

But about the fundies – you say that “reacting to these guys gives them power too. They thrive on this kind of stuff”. What power does it give them? I’d argue that they’d have more power left unopposed.

When individuals start to censor themselves or keep quiet because others are emotionally invested in bigotry and hatred: that is where enlightenment society starts to die.

And to top it all off, the blood was Anti-rust paint that had been painted over.

In other words some fundies showed up to let the lefties know that they’re all going to hell.

I think they probably think it was an accomplishment too.

I see what you’re saying Jim. But reacting to these guys gives them power too. They thrive on this kind of stuff.

I enjoy being demonised by them. Probably in the same way they enjoy people like me reacting to their bigotry, it gives them purpose to elevate themselves to whatever their idea of higher ground is.

In some ways one can’t exist without the other.

For example, my beloved Slayer wouldn’t exist as it does without Christianity to rebel against.

AngryHenry said :

All I see is two sets of minds that refuse to be changed so it’s really a waste of time on all fronts.

A crowd turned up and let the fundies know that their bigotry won’t wash, and that people will actually go to the trouble of opposing them when they try to demonise pagans/witches, homosexuals, muslims, etc.

I’d call that an accomplishment.

‘Catch the Fire’ eh?

I thought fire was the predominant element in hell…

What a bunch of morons.

Unfortunately it’s a little moronic to attempt to have a logical and reasonable debate with a lot of these Christian types. All I see is two sets of minds that refuse to be changed so it’s really a waste of time on all fronts. It was amusing though and a good place to try and start a bit of chaos.

I refer to the Bill Hicks argument – seen any reference to dinosaurs in the bible lately?

Gets them every time… ‘That’s just God’s way of testing us’, they say.

Get REAL!

MtAinslieWitches1:54 pm 20 Oct 09

Greetings,

Chewy14 said ‘What’s to stop the Satanists and Witches from getting their own contacts in parliament?’

Who said we don’t, we are just not stupid enough to publicise it.

Magister
MtAinslieWitches

LMR said :

So who did win the battle for My Ainslie, it seems unclear.
Do we think Danny boy will be back any time soon?

Danny boy and his crew certainly did not win the day.

chewy14 said :

Jim Jones said :

I suggest you do a bit of research about Danny Nalliah and his contacts in Parliament.

Your description of Catch the Fire Ministry implies democracy and peace, which is the furthest things from these guys minds.

What’s to stop the Satanists and Witches from getting their own contacts in parliament?

Nalliah may be a nutter, but you can’t blame him for being organised.

True that! Nutters can be some of the most organised folk around. Look how Hitler got his shit together.

Jim Jones said :

I suggest you do a bit of research about Danny Nalliah and his contacts in Parliament.

Your description of Catch the Fire Ministry implies democracy and peace, which is the furthest things from these guys minds.

What’s to stop the Satanists and Witches from getting their own contacts in parliament?

Nalliah may be a nutter, but you can’t blame him for being organised.

So who did win the battle for My Ainslie, it seems unclear.
Do we think Danny boy will be back any time soon?

I-filed said :

Why should the Canberra Times provide free content for RiotAct to link to? Crikey, RiotAct et al aren’t fair in their dealings with the newspapers.

Innovation not ‘fair’ on everyone in a market. In fact, thats kind of the point.
You have a business whose entire existence is owed to 1) accurate information, 2) information of such quality that people are willing to pay for it, 3) information distribution, and ideally 4) maintaining such a profile as to increase your audience, and have a percentage of that entire audience willing to pay for what you offer.
Newspapers are traditionally built more on a model of rival, excludable, and limited-durable consumption of their product.
(Rival as in they only print a certain number of printed newspapers, and my usage of a newspaper prevents simultaneous usage of that newspaper. Excludable as in people who haven’t “paid” for it in some way don’t get to use it. Limited-durable as in you have a day to ‘use’ it before it becomes obselete and I have to buy tomorrow’s paper. I only have a limited time to ‘share’ it, and only so many people can use it in a day thanks to its rival status. Because most people will throw away their copy that they saw interesting information in, archive-storing and sort\referencing is a nightmare.)

The CT doesn’t seem to think that using a non-rival chain of distribution (Interwebs) which offers a marked improvement over the current method allows better archive storing and referencing, but using it to only offer ‘tastes’ of product will somehow convince me to downgrade to the old model of delivery.

The fact that their artificial rarity is easily bypassed with only one person converting the paper copy to digital form means they lose out on a few fronts.
1) Page impressions and so lose a nice stat to throw to potential advertisers.
2) Since the scan allowed the end-user to remove the advertising before sharing it with their own sub-audience (ie: market segment), the readership’s eyeball-seconds cannot be on-sold to web advertsiers.
3) Nobody who reads the scanned version of the article will be encouraged to view other articles, and so become an advertiser on-sell.

I-filed said :

Constantly ridiculing the Canberra Times while linking to their articles isn’t fair actually. I’d say the Canberra Times content is probably responsible for a fair bit of traffic & interest here.

Fairness is a question of subjective judgement. Ideally their attitude would be “Like us or loathe us, so long as they support us by link to us (since we can sell that readership on to advertisers).”
Since the point of a media company is that it runs on attention, the only thing worse than being hated is being ignored.
<a href = "http://kottke.org/08/07/just-dont-look"("Just don't look, just don't look")

DawnDrifter said :

the way i read it…
Group 1 turns up to exercise their democratic right to gather peacefully to express their opinions and support for a particular cause.
Group 2 turns up to exercise their democratic right to peacefully disagree with group 1’s ideals and also to express their opinions and support for a particular cause

Faction 1 disagrees with faction 2 and vice versa. big deal
at the end of the day everyone goes home and says, “yeah that’ll learn em!”

who cares!

I suggest you do a bit of research about Danny Nalliah and his contacts in Parliament.

Your description of Catch the Fire Ministry implies democracy and peace, which is the furthest things from these guys minds.

I-filed – It goes both ways, except we state CT as the source (most of the time).

Skidbladnir said :

(Take a hint Mr CT Online Editor, your online method of drumming up sales of the paper edition is a failure, and even gets in the way of your having an online profile)

Why should the Canberra Times provide free content for RiotAct to link to? Crikey, RiotAct et al aren’t fair in their dealings with the newspapers. Constantly ridiculing the Canberra Times while linking to their articles isn’t fair actually. I’d say the Canberra Times content is probably responsible for a fair bit of traffic & interest here.

the way i read it…
Group 1 turns up to exercise their democratic right to gather peacefully to express their opinions and support for a particular cause.
Group 2 turns up to exercise their democratic right to peacefully disagree with group 1’s ideals and also to express their opinions and support for a particular cause

Faction 1 disagrees with faction 2 and vice versa. big deal
at the end of the day everyone goes home and says, “yeah that’ll learn em!”

who cares!

Muttsybignuts8:54 pm 19 Oct 09

I-filed said :

chewy14 said :

So which ones are meant to be the nutters again?

I suspect that the Satanist on the film, the one who claims he plans to do evil for the rest of his life would have to be up there. You could probably take the most vehement and vocal 10 per cent of the folk from both sides and find they have quite similar personalities …

The bloke was a nerd. Probably doesn’t even listen to Slayer. And his chick mate was very eloquent when telling the 80s tracksuit topped dude that she “hoped someone he knows gets raped and has a kid” or something along those lines. I was enjoying the video until those lot TRIED to appear intellectual and came off looking like the stoners they are.

The most reasonable person there is Mrs Sex Party…
Mr Satanist is just an idiot, not even a real life troll of minimal quality.

chewy14 said :

So which ones are meant to be the nutters again?

I suspect that the Satanist on the film, the one who claims he plans to do evil for the rest of his life would have to be up there. You could probably take the most vehement and vocal 10 per cent of the folk from both sides and find they have quite similar personalities …

DawnDrifter said :

So what was the point exactly of all this crap?
Should i/anyone even care??

no. maintain the apathy…. it’s not like these people have the ear of our leaders or anything!

apathy after all, seems to be the defining characteristic of australians. she’ll be right.

DawnDrifter said :

So what was the point exactly of all this crap?
Should i/anyone even care??

When they came for DawnDrifter, I remained silent, because I wasn’t a balloon-type-guy.

So what was the point exactly of all this crap?
Should i/anyone even care??

All this must have totally convinced the Jesus-loves-us crowd that Canberra really has been overtaken by witches and all things evil.

Joe Canberran said :

There is a very interesting, balanced Christian view of the proceedings by Tim Malone on his blog here.quote]

Quote from Tim’s blog: “I spoke to a pagan, some atheists and an agnostic on top of the mountain….. They said that they feel they know the Bible better than most Christians (and unfortunately, I agree with them).”

Typical, it always seems that the more ‘faith’ someone has in the bible as the literal truth, the less of it they seem to actually have read. As the old saying goes: the best argument against christianity is actually reading the bible itself (that and other christians actions)!

As for the nutty fundies speaking in tongues, I was less than impressed. They should have gone the whole way and drank poison and handled some snakes at the same time (Mark 16:17-18).

CtFM don’t seem to have tried to spin it, just linked to four different Fairfax news website all running the same copy (CtFM followers are yet to realise that Fairfax runs the same articles under different banners, apparently)

To their credit, they have provided a handy scan of the Canberra Times.
http://catchthefire.com.au/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/canberra-times-article.jpg
(Take a hint Mr CT Online Editor, your online method of drumming up sales of the paper edition is a failure, and even gets in the way of your having an online profile)

Joe Canberran said :

There is a very interesting, balanced Christian view of the proceedings by Tim Malone on his blog here.

I particularly like his photo and caption of ‘Katie’

He has also included some links to other media coverage of the event. Well worth a read.

That sums up the day’s proceedings very nicely. I don’t think anyone up there (on either side) is disagreeing that Christians don’t have a right to pray to their god, or travel to a specific spot to do it. It’s the “join us or die” fire and brimstone beliefs which people have a problem with.

As for the scaring little old grannies comment, well if little old granny insists I’ll be going to hell (supposedly the most scariest place in existence) then I have no problem sending that “fear” right back at them.

Just finally, those “Christians” (I use the term loosely) went up there looking for a fight, whilst no fists where thrown, a fight is exactly what they wanted.

eyeLikeCarrots1:10 pm 19 Oct 09

Carrots’ greatest hits:

“Jesus loves you, everyone else thinks you’re a bunch of silly dickheads.”

“You call that a beneveloent god, he sent his son to earth and stuck him to a piece of wood.”

“Whats the monthly tithe ? I bet its a fair bit, thats a nice jacket the dude with the little blown horn has got.”

“Think… evolve… big beardy man in the sky is not listening”.

“Are you silly twats serious about this… I mean really….?”

I was pleased to see representation from the following social groups:

Political representation from the Aust Sex Party.
Music supplied by GBL community (Also colour, flair and almost nekkidness – great work from the team, 2 blokes having a snog while the fundies were claiming the hill for Jebus).
The chaps in the Slayer shirts.
Tim the Yowie Man… you knew it was him because he had it embroided onto his shirt incase you didn’t recognise him)
The Geeks (Me and a girl in glasses who suggested we rick-roll them).
The Fundies of the Catch th Fire ministry for demonstrating the synergy of anti-paganism, Christianity, and the use of a Jewish patterened shawl.

Best show in Canberra, would pay for tickets!

Gungahlin Al12:31 pm 19 Oct 09

toriness said :

i wonder what a jesus emoticon would be. perhaps a smilie wearing a crown of thorns with a bit of token blood dribble? *:`(

Fish?

I had wondered whether there was anywhere to plug in my Gerni up there so I could just clean off the supposed sacrifical blood stains (wine more like) of the supposed altar before the fruitcakes got there.

And for once I find myself agreeing with CK: this sort of extremism needs slapping down – irrespective of the brand of religion. It is a sad fact that such groups manage to exert altogether too much influence over government in the USA, and clearly this has something to do with why they decided to come to Canberra. Only through a community’s rejection of such nutbaggery do we keep such intolerable influences out of our own government(s).

Oh oh…I feel the talking with tongues coming on…
ASiodcshshv shkvn l dk.nkuv k fhel vse vngf ldh zdnlh sk.sehl h. vhfdflawhf.ljvh.snfk.snfs ooga booga.

Please, please, why besmirch the good name of Victorian banjo players. We had nothing to do with it!

So which ones are meant to be the nutters again?

I glad it’s over can I do a couple of human sacrifices up there tonight? I have a couple of victims that won’t be missed and I have looking for somewhere appropriate!

I heard about this on Triple J. Hilarious. Bloody religious nutters.

At least these ferals are not representative of Canberra.

toriness said :

i wonder what a jesus emoticon would be. perhaps a smilie wearing a crown of thorns with a bit of token blood dribble? *:`(

#:-(>

Well i had a great time. I met a bunch of great folk and hope that something like this happens again.

Joe Canberran7:09 am 19 Oct 09

And for those with facebook access have a look here for a excellent personal piece from the GLBT point of veiw

Joe Canberran6:56 am 19 Oct 09

There is a very interesting, balanced Christian view of the proceedings by Tim Malone on his blog here.

I particularly like his photo and caption of ‘Katie’

He has also included some links to other media coverage of the event. Well worth a read.

i wonder what a jesus emoticon would be. perhaps a smilie wearing a crown of thorns with a bit of token blood dribble? *:`(

georgesgenitals8:08 pm 18 Oct 09

I-filed said :

The whole thing was a bad call on a couple of fronts.
Mt Ainslie is a peaceful place – as I said in another post, I don’t think it’s good for the vibe or the wildlife to introduce raucous protest vibes, regardless of who started it … a divisive attack on the fundies is not in the spirit of community.
I’d never defend a right-wing Christian – Clearly they’re pathetic, misguided – but this is the utterly powerless end of the religious spectrum. I can’t believe the backslapping going on here, about a “victory” over a handful of sad marginalised Christians. Metaphorically beating up the “old and frail” is nothing to crow about.
It could even be seen as highlighting just how few inroads have been made with the mainstream churches. Why isn’t this protest crowd targeting influential people? Protesting where it might make a modicum of difference?

I agree. Very sad that people are getting off on bagging some old, misguided religious nuts.

I’ll bear in mind that it’s acceptable in Canberra to hassle misguided fruit loops next time some homeless weirdo bothers me.

Indeed, good call bloodnut 🙂

But I digress… Morality can exist totally seperate from religion.
People can have a code by which they live by, and to better the world, without praise and worship and faith.

Faith is defined by a trusting belief in a transcendent reality..

What I see, and hear, everyday, the way I live, as a good person, a valuable member of society and what I do, spending my time to make other lives better (For no personal gain Ill add) – its all good – and guess what, – no blind faith there – its all real.

I can see touch taste breathe and live as a good person without dealing with religion, and wasting my time worshipping something that in my opinion may not even exist.

I love slayer, obituary, sepultura, impaled nazarine, deicide, darkthrone and lots of other black metal as well as great 80’s synthpop hits… Does that make someone evil ? Do I need to be saved ?

Evil is not defined by what music someone listens to, what sub genre someone belongs to, what someone wears, eats, drinks, how many tattoos someone has etc…

At the end of the day, this is how I see religion… religion is just an instrument to control the masses. It is basically living your life for dying and making sure you get your greencard into heaven..

See I live like this… I do good everyday, i am a kind gentle person who loves this shady little backwater home, I would do anything within my reason to improve it and the lives of those living here.

I have a wife and a kid on the way, I do charity work to further the lives of others, I have no doubt in the world that what I do puts smiles on dials – I live to make people laugh, I am the class clown (Even now at 31).

According to these galahs on the hill yesterday, I am a heathen and should be saved..But from what ? Why do I need saving…What have I done wrong? No one needs religion to do good and be a good person…

If I die and there is a heaven and hell, good luck to me, whoop de doo daah, but I am living and thats what I live for, not dying. Carpe diem.

Besides, how many deaths have been accountable to religion….

Until you harm someone else, live and let live…Its easy, non politcal, and not religious.

Readers unfamiliar with bloodnut should realise he’s just engaging in some light hearted trolling.

I will pray for your collective souls tonight.

Insert Jesus emoticon here.

I would assume that ignoring them completely and not giving them a bunch of free advertising would have been a bit better way to go about it.

Pommy bastard1:24 pm 18 Oct 09

Sounds a hoot, wish I could have been there.

Congrats to all.

Clown Killer12:07 pm 18 Oct 09

These marginalised crack-pot religious nut-bags need to be slapped down. They need to know that their weird ideas and intollerance places them at the bottom with the other filter-feeders. If there’st things in thi world that I simpy cant stand, it’s religious nut-bags and intollerant ar$eholes …

Hell? Is that your only threat?
Better to reign in Hell than to serve in Heaven!
You have no better sales pitch than to tell us that if we don’t worship Jesus we’re going to Hell. I, for one, am not afraid of Hell if it exists (I don’t believe it does). All my favourite musicians are there, and I’ll get to smoke more weed than I could possibly imagine!

The whole thing was a bad call on a couple of fronts.
Mt Ainslie is a peaceful place – as I said in another post, I don’t think it’s good for the vibe or the wildlife to introduce raucous protest vibes, regardless of who started it … a divisive attack on the fundies is not in the spirit of community.
I’d never defend a right-wing Christian – Clearly they’re pathetic, misguided – but this is the utterly powerless end of the religious spectrum. I can’t believe the backslapping going on here, about a “victory” over a handful of sad marginalised Christians. Metaphorically beating up the “old and frail” is nothing to crow about.
It could even be seen as highlighting just how few inroads have been made with the mainstream churches. Why isn’t this protest crowd targeting influential people? Protesting where it might make a modicum of difference?

C’mon Bloodnut! If you can’t beat them, join them!

Will meet you at the hooker & tattoo parlour at 3pm.
BYO crack pipe and gimp suit
😉

What a great day, and what a great stand we made!
Danny Nalliah tried to exorcise me, and failed. For more info, see today’s Canberra Times!
I’ll post up some links to YouTube videos when I get around to uploading them.

And so much for the blood on the “altar”. I’ve seen more realistic blood in Wes Craven movies!

I hope your brief moment of pagan fun was worth it, because

You’re
all
going
to
burn
in
hell
for
eternity
.

Oops a better version

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQH_pyMtDD0

pity I missed the early action 🙂

and wtf was up with the american guy reading from the gospel with a jewish prayer shawl?

these guys read too much old testament.

Ari said :

The lack of a visible police presence was disturbing, it wouldn’t have taken much for it to have gotten out of hand.

at points some individuals (from both sides) did get a little too worked up, in each case i saw their mates (again on both sides) pulled them back and tell them to calm down.

even with the passion everyone brought, it was pretty civil. no pushing or the like. i did get a bit sick of the fundies trying to cast spells/bless on me.

the police did come by in unmarked cars every now and then, I suppose they just kept an eye on things in case it did get out of hand. i’m glad there was no visible presence, from past experience I think that just tends to antagonise the situation.

LOL! Score +1 Canberra lifestyle!!

witches hats are a nice touch.

have to say that i think the fundies did out number us, especially towards the end.

Today Im proud to be a Canberran

Well done!

ahappychappy

Yes lol,the short guy with the little horn at the emd LMAO

Oh dear Canberra…how very embarrassing…

I thought one or two of the elderly Christian women looked frightened.

That doesn’t make sense. The christians came by their own admission to conduct Spiritual Warfare on the others and ‘target their arrorws’ at them. Only one party came with conflict in mind, everyone else was doing their own thing. If anyone should have been frightened it should have been the targets of the vengeful minions of the avenging diety (who that didn’t seem to be inclined to do much smiting, probably has his hands busy with the Greens when he gets to Canberra)

This looks like a great day with goods spirits.

It’s great that you have covered this Johnboy.

It seems like the rest of Canberra’s media have missed a fun story.

I’d like to complain to the proprietors of this website about a serious inaccuracy in the above story, that draws attention to the lax reporting standards shown here. Specifically in the sentence beginning: “Victoria’s banjo country bused in…”

The word is bussed.

Also I believe that the sentence is factually incorrect as well, as many of the protesters travelled here not by mechanical means such as busses, but were instead propelled interstate by a series of violent knee-jerk reactions. Sadly I have no film of this.

The lack of a visible police presence was disturbing, it wouldn’t have taken much for it to have gotten out of hand.

Kudos to all who showed up. The sight of a conga line of homos, witches and assorted liberty lovers scything through the Catch the Fire mob was one of the funniest things I’ve seen in years.

Underpants man also put on a fine show.

And the nutjobs really do speak in tongues!

It certainly was a fantastic afternoon with an extremly eclectic group of people – heaps of luverly & very vocal folks from the gay community, plenty of pagans, assorted adult industry people (who put on a very nice BBQ and unveiled a fabulous new work of art by that well known artist Prickasso)the occasional burlesque dancer – and even a contingent from the ANU’s atheist society.
The mad pastor certainly managed to annoy a wide array of people and in doing so, unwittingly brought us all together for an afternoon of singing, dancing, kissing, laughter & general frivolity!
Well done!

ahappychappy6:12 pm 17 Oct 09

Did Danny boy even show up?

awww such a tiny, inadequate loudspeaker. 🙂

Go Heathens! Go Heathens. Oh, oh, Go Heathens!

What did you mean by “it was lucky the “Catch The Fire:” mob were not only outnumbered but also in general much older and frailer”?

I thought one or two of the elderly Christian women looked frightened.

Rawhide Kid No 25:20 pm 17 Oct 09

johnboy said :

Another fun part of it all was the bemused tourists wondering what the hell was going on and if we do this regularly.

You should have told the tourists that this is normal every day life in Canberra.

Protesters in underpants always add a certain je ne sais quoi to a gathering.

Another fun part of it all was the bemused tourists wondering what the hell was going on and if we do this regularly.

eyeLikeCarrots4:37 pm 17 Oct 09

Ha Ha – I got my arse out.

WOW! Good onya for sticking to this bloke.

If I’d know this was going down today, I would have been out there in support!

yay canberra. take it religious nutbars.

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