26 May 2013

ANU academic denounces Dr Who as racist

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This in from the Daily Mail:

The Doctor’s new foes claim that his dismissive attitude towards black companions, his contempt for ‘primitive’ people, and even his passion for cricket are all proof of a reactionary ‘whiteness’ pervading his adventures.

Their concerns are published in a new book, Doctor Who And Race, which says the BBC programme is based in attitudes ‘that continue to subjugate people of colour’.

But fans dismiss such criticisms as ‘groundless’ and ‘ridiculous’.

One of the more bizarre theories is offered by Amit Gupta, an American professor, who argues that Peter Davison’s cricket-loving incarnation of the character in the Eighties was thinly disguised nostalgia for the British Empire. He wrote: ‘[He] portrayed the amateur English cricketer of the late 19th Century when the game was characterised by both racial and class distinctions.

‘Cricket also had a role in maintaining the status of British imperialism through the exercise of soft power as it was successfully inculcated by the colonial elites. Davison’s cricketing Doctor once again saw the BBC using Who to promote a racial and class nostalgia that had already outlived its validity.

Australian academic Lindy Orthia, who compiled the anthology, concluded: ‘The biggest elephant in the room is the problem privately nursed by many fans of loving a TV show when it is thunderingly racist.’

Wonderful! The racism industry ratchets up the divisions in society once more.

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David Tennant….and Billie Piper return for the 50th Anniversary special in November. I guess one episode will do

Billy Piper? Phwooaaaar, she could have the top off my egg any morning.

Onceler said :

Time for the Doc to reflect his true age a bit, I reckon.

so, burt newton it is then… (he’s about 900 isn’t he?)

astrojax said :

didn’t the last episode end with john hurt being credited as ‘the doctor’?

It is probably preparing for a Prometheus/Alien/Dr Who crossover… :/

Sorry Poetix & LSWCHP, I got mixed up.

John Hurt as the Doctor? I’d watch that. The very first Doctor was an old geezer. Since then he’s been getting progressively younger in appearance. Time for the Doc to reflect his true age a bit, I reckon.

astrojax said :

didn’t the last episode end with john hurt being credited as ‘the doctor’??

anyone? (noting he’s neither non-caucasian or female) i rekkun he’d be a bonza doctor.

Not sure why my comment previously ‘disappeared’ but whatever.

Yes, that is correct with John Hurt. The two possibilities that are being bandied around at the moment are that he’s the doctor before Hartnell. IE, the very first doctor. The other possibility is that he’s jammed inbetween 8 and 9 having had a hand in ending the time war by the genocide of two races at once.

Its a pity that they’re only including Tennant and not at the least including McCoy and McGann. McGann certainly deserves more screen time as the doctor than what he got. Eccleston, seems to be just an all round jerk when it comes to doctor who. He hated the show and working for it. Its a pity.

didn’t the last episode end with john hurt being credited as ‘the doctor’??

anyone? (noting he’s neither non-caucasian or female) i rekkun he’d be a bonza doctor.

Onceler said :

poetix said :

LSWCHP said :

I’ve been watching Dr Who for over 40 years, and I’ve never picked up on anything like this, so I’m with Ben and Matt.

I believe Poetix is the resident RA expert on the Doctor, so I’d be interested to hear what she has to say on this subject.

I’m by no means an expert on the Doctor, although I have met some real experts at SF conventions. The idea of a female Doctor is something that is quite often discussed, and it is a little strange that he can change bodies, but always has to have the dangly bits!

As to racism, I do think, in the older series there was the occasional strange moment; I can remember a series where, I think, Buddhist chants were used to summon spiders, just taking bits of a religion and implying it was somehow connected with evil. (Of course Buddhism is not confined to any one race.) It scared me more than any other episode, when I was little. Of course, I didn’t know that they were Buddhist chants until much later, and it hasn’t given me a morbid hatred of Buddhists. I’m sure today they wouldn’t use part of a minority (in the UK) religion like that, and offend people. (Some real Doctor fan will know the story-line I mean.)

I don’t see anything wrong with analysing the Doctor in terms of race, or gender. It’s something academics do all the time! Apart from the obvious time travel books and films, you could trace a line through Sherlock Holmes, Richard Hannay and so on to the Doctor and compare his adventures with narratives of the colonial hero, or the hero thwarting dastardly plots. Even the wonderful Flashman novels by George MacDonald Fraser could be brought in; both have recurring characters, in a sense, that have travelled though time, from one series or book to another. Tom Brown’s Schooldays, in Flashman’s case. These are all characters that are more famous than their authors.

I would love to see The Master come back. Played by Richard E Grant, although he recently played another role. The Master was just like Holmes’s nemesis, Moriarty. There used to be more of a military support to the Doctor, with the Brigadier and so on, which gave things a very different feeling. The new Daleks, too, in the pretty colours, seem to have lost the NAZI references which were there, I think, in early series. The whole Doctor Who adventure started less than twenty years after WWII.

I like the Victorian stories best, which was, I suppose, when British colonialism was at its peak, but we don’t really see that in the series. Unless the aliens are the Indians…but they’re always invading Britain, reversing history.

And cricket does show the one-time extent of British colonialism, even though they are not so good at either thing these days.

Sorry, I’m just thinking about all this as I write, so it’s a bit rambling!

Nice rambling there, LSWCHP! I remember the story you describe. I think it was Jon Pertwee’s last adventure. I’m old enough to remember that the evil “Buddhist” chanters who fell under the sway of the giant spiders of Metabelis 3 were misusing the teachings of a Tibetan lama, who certainly didn’t approve of their activities. I think he reappeared in the final episode to help sort things out. Then Pertwee metamorphosed into Tom Baker to tackle a giant robot. (Correct me if I’m wrong.)

I reckon a non-caucasian Doctor would be good. But I’m not really a fan of the modern version, so, whatevs.

I’m the rambler, in this case! LSWCHP always sticks to the point..like a fly in the web of a giant spider. (-:

poetix said :

LSWCHP said :

I’ve been watching Dr Who for over 40 years, and I’ve never picked up on anything like this, so I’m with Ben and Matt.

I believe Poetix is the resident RA expert on the Doctor, so I’d be interested to hear what she has to say on this subject.

I’m by no means an expert on the Doctor, although I have met some real experts at SF conventions. The idea of a female Doctor is something that is quite often discussed, and it is a little strange that he can change bodies, but always has to have the dangly bits!

As to racism, I do think, in the older series there was the occasional strange moment; I can remember a series where, I think, Buddhist chants were used to summon spiders, just taking bits of a religion and implying it was somehow connected with evil. (Of course Buddhism is not confined to any one race.) It scared me more than any other episode, when I was little. Of course, I didn’t know that they were Buddhist chants until much later, and it hasn’t given me a morbid hatred of Buddhists. I’m sure today they wouldn’t use part of a minority (in the UK) religion like that, and offend people. (Some real Doctor fan will know the story-line I mean.)

I don’t see anything wrong with analysing the Doctor in terms of race, or gender. It’s something academics do all the time! Apart from the obvious time travel books and films, you could trace a line through Sherlock Holmes, Richard Hannay and so on to the Doctor and compare his adventures with narratives of the colonial hero, or the hero thwarting dastardly plots. Even the wonderful Flashman novels by George MacDonald Fraser could be brought in; both have recurring characters, in a sense, that have travelled though time, from one series or book to another. Tom Brown’s Schooldays, in Flashman’s case. These are all characters that are more famous than their authors.

I would love to see The Master come back. Played by Richard E Grant, although he recently played another role. The Master was just like Holmes’s nemesis, Moriarty. There used to be more of a military support to the Doctor, with the Brigadier and so on, which gave things a very different feeling. The new Daleks, too, in the pretty colours, seem to have lost the NAZI references which were there, I think, in early series. The whole Doctor Who adventure started less than twenty years after WWII.

I like the Victorian stories best, which was, I suppose, when British colonialism was at its peak, but we don’t really see that in the series. Unless the aliens are the Indians…but they’re always invading Britain, reversing history.

And cricket does show the one-time extent of British colonialism, even though they are not so good at either thing these days.

Sorry, I’m just thinking about all this as I write, so it’s a bit rambling!

Nice rambling there, LSWCHP! I remember the story you describe. I think it was Jon Pertwee’s last adventure. I’m old enough to remember that the evil “Buddhist” chanters who fell under the sway of the giant spiders of Metabelis 3 were misusing the teachings of a Tibetan lama, who certainly didn’t approve of their activities. I think he reappeared in the final episode to help sort things out. Then Pertwee metamorphosed into Tom Baker to tackle a giant robot. (Correct me if I’m wrong.)

I reckon a non-caucasian Doctor would be good. But I’m not really a fan of the modern version, so, whatevs.

“an American professor, who argues that Peter Davison’s cricket-loving incarnation of the character in the Eighties was thinly disguised nostalgia for the British Empire. He wrote: ‘[He] portrayed the amateur English cricketer of the late 19th Century when the game was characterised by both racial and class distinctions.”

wow… talk about drawing long bows. The best thing about representation, is the colour of the lenses you can apply with any modern interpretation of a bygone era…

When I studied for my Education degree at UofC during the late 90’s, we had a lecturer for the Diversity subject, that openly called her assembled students “whities”, referred to “whiteness” in culture and openly declared “minorities; by definition, cannot be racist”. Perhaps some academics seek notoriety as a form of validation.

Brianna said :

miz said :

Hope they bring back David Tennant! I never really warmed to Matt Smith.

Agreed. David Tennant OWNED that role. Matt Smith is a poor substitute. I don’t think David will ever come back but god knows, there’s got to easily been anyone better than Matt Smith!

David Tennant….and Billie Piper return for the 50th Anniversary special in November. I guess one episode will do.. 🙂

HiddenDragon said :

miz said :

Hope they bring back David Tennant! I never really warmed to Matt Smith.

+ #43 – who’d ‘ve thunk that Matt is a Rioter – he’s got the message – “it’s time to walk!”:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-06-02/dr-who-actor-matt-smith-closes-tardis-door/4727832

I don’t watch DW, but is it possible that the reason everyone wants the new guy to go is because he looks a bit like Frankenstein’s Monster?

HiddenDragon10:14 pm 02 Jun 13

miz said :

Hope they bring back David Tennant! I never really warmed to Matt Smith.

+ #43 – who’d ‘ve thunk that Matt is a Rioter – he’s got the message – “it’s time to walk!”:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-06-02/dr-who-actor-matt-smith-closes-tardis-door/4727832

astrojax said :

Holditz said :

Any Australian would be an expert, compared to an American academic.

i see what you did there; a racist comment in a thread on racism. well done…

Not really. In the US Doctor Who is a fan thing; little known until 2005, when it started getting pushed by BBC money counters. In Australia Doctor Who is a family thing. Most baby boomer Australians have their favourite or their first Doctor, and fans run in generations.

If anything it’s a fancist comment, not racist. 🙂

LSWCHP said :

I’ve been watching Dr Who for over 40 years, and I’ve never picked up on anything like this, so I’m with Ben and Matt.

I believe Poetix is the resident RA expert on the Doctor, so I’d be interested to hear what she has to say on this subject.

I’m by no means an expert on the Doctor, although I have met some real experts at SF conventions. The idea of a female Doctor is something that is quite often discussed, and it is a little strange that he can change bodies, but always has to have the dangly bits!

As to racism, I do think, in the older series there was the occasional strange moment; I can remember a series where, I think, Buddhist chants were used to summon spiders, just taking bits of a religion and implying it was somehow connected with evil. (Of course Buddhism is not confined to any one race.) It scared me more than any other episode, when I was little. Of course, I didn’t know that they were Buddhist chants until much later, and it hasn’t given me a morbid hatred of Buddhists. I’m sure today they wouldn’t use part of a minority (in the UK) religion like that, and offend people. (Some real Doctor fan will know the story-line I mean.)

I don’t see anything wrong with analysing the Doctor in terms of race, or gender. It’s something academics do all the time! Apart from the obvious time travel books and films, you could trace a line through Sherlock Holmes, Richard Hannay and so on to the Doctor and compare his adventures with narratives of the colonial hero, or the hero thwarting dastardly plots. Even the wonderful Flashman novels by George MacDonald Fraser could be brought in; both have recurring characters, in a sense, that have travelled though time, from one series or book to another. Tom Brown’s Schooldays, in Flashman’s case. These are all characters that are more famous than their authors.

I would love to see The Master come back. Played by Richard E Grant, although he recently played another role. The Master was just like Holmes’s nemesis, Moriarty. There used to be more of a military support to the Doctor, with the Brigadier and so on, which gave things a very different feeling. The new Daleks, too, in the pretty colours, seem to have lost the NAZI references which were there, I think, in early series. The whole Doctor Who adventure started less than twenty years after WWII.

I like the Victorian stories best, which was, I suppose, when British colonialism was at its peak, but we don’t really see that in the series. Unless the aliens are the Indians…but they’re always invading Britain, reversing history.

And cricket does show the one-time extent of British colonialism, even though they are not so good at either thing these days.

Sorry, I’m just thinking about all this as I write, so it’s a bit rambling!

miz said :

Hope they bring back David Tennant! I never really warmed to Matt Smith.

Agreed. David Tennant OWNED that role. Matt Smith is a poor substitute. I don’t think David will ever come back but god knows, there’s got to easily been anyone better than Matt Smith!

Hope they bring back David Tennant! I never really warmed to Matt Smith.

qbngeek said :

Genie said :

Ahem *Doctor Who

Name not title…. !

Damn, you beat me to it. I correct my wife on it constantly.

I bet that’s great for the relationship. 🙂

Genie said :

Ahem *Doctor Who

Name not title…. !

Damn, you beat me to it. I correct my wife on it constantly.

Oh, no hint of bias here is there?

Under the scope of the concept ‘race’, contributors may discuss (but are not limited to) any of:

the ethnic or racial backgrounds, identities and racially-signifying physical traits of characters, communities, and actors in Doctor Who
depictions of racism, racial stereotyping and race-related exploitation in the program
Doctor Who stories that reference colonialism, imperialism, nationalism, and other race-related phenomena significant in human history, such as slavery and civil rights movements
allegorical literary tools used in the program to reference race, such as the alien as ‘other’.

Contributions that address links between race and science are strongly encouraged.

pierce said :

Given the rabid right-wing slant that the Daily Mail is known for, I wouldn’t be surprised if any number of things were being taken out of context. Only one contributor out of twenty three being mentioned is a start.

“Australian academic Lindy Orthia, who compiled the anthology, concluded: ‘The biggest elephant in the room is the problem privately nursed by many fans of loving a TV show when it is thunderingly racist.’”

Looks like Lindy Orthia is the compiler of the anthology and if she’s doing her job right, she would choose the most interesting and thought provoking essays available.

Given the rabid right-wing slant that the Daily Mail is known for, I wouldn’t be surprised if any number of things were being taken out of context. Only one contributor out of twenty three being mentioned is a start.

astrojax said :

from the cv of said academic – seems some people value her contribution and her obvious skills. how do i know i value your input to society if you don’t tell us what it is?

She’s done a bit of teaching, fair play to her. Lets hope she was teach stuff just a little bit more useful/.sane than “Dr Who is a racist because he plays cricket.”

astrojax said :

Holditz said :

LSWCHP said :

I believe Poetix is the resident RA expert on the Doctor, so I’d be interested to hear what she has to say on this subject.

Any Australian would be an expert, compared to an American academic.

i see what you did there; a racist comment in a thread on racism. well done…

I don’t think being an American is a “race”. I think it was quite a thoughtful comment, myself.

to ben dover (first page won’t sign me in, this page does… weird)

In 2007, Lindy wrote the original curriculum for the Masters course SCOM8027 Science and Public Policy. In the past she was also involved in teaching SCOM2001 Practical Skills for Communicating Science and SCOM3001 Science, Risk and Ethics.

In 2013 Lindy won a Vice Chancellor’s Award for Teaching Excellence. She was also awarded an ANU Commendation for Outstanding Contribution to Student Learning in recognition of her Colleges of Science Award for Teaching Excellence, which she won in 2012.

from the cv of said academic – seems some people value her contribution and her obvious skills. how do i know i value your input to society if you don’t tell us what it is?

Ahem *Doctor Who

Name not title…. !

thislittlepiggy2:02 pm 27 May 13

Shock! A TV show that’s been around since the 60’s can be racist.

I can get why people have a hard time understanding why people think there’s a need to study doctor who. But due to it being long running, as well as dealing with topics in a way rarely done on television, it unsurprisingly holds a lot of attraction to science communication. After all, science communication is concerned with everything from explaining why a slinky works all the way up to explaining to communities on the Murry Darling basin what is known about the future of the river, and helping them deal with it (which doesn’t always align with what the government or the environmentalists want). The best way to communicate science is to know how science topics have been depicted in the past, which includes being racist, imperialist and the like, so dr who is a bit of a no brainer to look at.

astrojax said :

and your ‘proper’ job is..? define ‘proper’…

One of value, one which produces a benefit.

Not sucking on the government teat, writing about who Dr Who is “racist”, and “researching, writing and agitating in regard to public policy issues, working in student representative and community organisations”.

A perpetual student it would seem.

Ben_Dover said :

PantsMan said :

You can read it in all its horror here: http://cpas.anu.edu.au/about-us/people/lindy-orthia

Never had a proper job then, figures.

and your ‘proper’ job is..? define ‘proper’…

PantsMan said :

You can read it in all its horror here: http://cpas.anu.edu.au/about-us/people/lindy-orthia

Never had a proper job then, figures.

You can read it in all its horror here: http://cpas.anu.edu.au/about-us/people/lindy-orthia

Dr Lindy Orthia

Qualifications
BSc (Hons), PhD

Biography

Lindy lectures in undergraduate science communication. She is the course convenor for SCOM1001 Science and Public Awareness, SCOM2003 Science in Popular Fiction, and SCOM3003 Special Topics in Science Communication. She is also the convenor of the Undergraduate Studies and Honours programs in science communication.

In 2007, Lindy wrote the original curriculum for the Masters course SCOM8027 Science and Public Policy. In the past she was also involved in teaching SCOM2001 Practical Skills for Communicating Science and SCOM3001 Science, Risk and Ethics.

In 2013 Lindy won a Vice Chancellor’s Award for Teaching Excellence. She was also awarded an ANU Commendation for Outstanding Contribution to Student Learning in recognition of her Colleges of Science Award for Teaching Excellence, which she won in 2012. With $4000 of the College prize money she established the Australian National Centre for the Public Awareness of Science Endowment which will fund, in perpetuity, five undergraduate science communication prizes. Lindy won the inaugural ResearchFest Award for Excellence in Tutoring or Demonstrating in 2009, and jointly with Rod Lamberts was nominated for a Vice Chancellor’s Citation for an Outstanding Contribution to Student Learning in 2008.

Lindy trained as a biologist. Before joining CPAS her research was in the fields of taxonomy, molecular systematics, ecology and natural resource management. Having studied the practice of biological classification, she came to CPAS to research more theoretical and philosophical aspects of classification at the PhD level, before changing her PhD topic to study science in the BBC science fiction television series Doctor Who. Her PhD was awarded in 2010 with the thesis, Enlightenment was the Choice: Doctor Who and the Democratisation of Science.

Prior to discovering science, Lindy spent much of her time researching, writing and agitating in regard to public policy issues, working in student representative and community organisations. Find out more at lindyorthia.com.

HiddenDragon9:51 am 27 May 13

DrKoresh said :

Lots of English stuff strikes me as having a… not quite racist but certainly very pervasive, if subtle, nationalistic streak. I think it’s just a manifestation of their anxiety at no longer being the biggest player on the world stage.

It’s often not all that subtle either and seems to be getting more noticeable, as Britain’s place in the world continues to decline economically and politically. Closely related, is a tendency to emphasise the halcyon days of yore, and the quintessential Englishness of rural and village life – a form of escapism, I suppose, but hardly surprising in a world which can produce the Woolwich atrocity.

The Doctor and his beautiful and intelligent black companion Martha Jones need to go back in time to pre-colonial India and investigate the caste system of discrimination..

Holditz said :

LSWCHP said :

I believe Poetix is the resident RA expert on the Doctor, so I’d be interested to hear what she has to say on this subject.

Any Australian would be an expert, compared to an American academic.

i see what you did there; a racist comment in a thread on racism. well done…

So you can get paid to watch Dr Who?

I can’t believe no-one has said of these so called academics, Dr who?

Damn, I’m so daft me. I’ve spent all these years believing Dr Who was a bit of silly fluff TV for kids, when all along it should have been striving to assess its consistency with four goals for the democratisation of science.

Bloody hell fire, live and learn eh?

Lots of English stuff strikes me as having a… not quite racist but certainly very pervasive, if subtle, nationalistic streak. I think it’s just a manifestation of their anxiety at no longer being the biggest player on the world stage.

HiddenDragon11:22 pm 26 May 13

LSWCHP said :

HiddenDragon said :

So Dr Who is the new Biggles – well, at least they’ve dealt with the lurking homoeroticism (replacing that with sexism, I suppose) angle by giving the Dr a female sidekick.

Ummm…wot? Having I been missing something for the last 40+ years?

Dr Who has had female sidekicks continuously since it started back around the time I was born. I even had the hots for Leila when I was a teenager. 🙂

Relax – that was a comment about Biggles and chums, and contrasting them to the Dr and his companions (the gender politics of the latter are no doubt worthy of close study).

HiddenDragon said :

So Dr Who is the new Biggles – well, at least they’ve dealt with the lurking homoeroticism (replacing that with sexism, I suppose) angle by giving the Dr a female sidekick.

Dr Who has had a female companion from day one and more often than not has been the practical brains of the outfit. The Doctor being more of a absent minded professor type.

HiddenDragon said :

So Dr Who is the new Biggles – well, at least they’ve dealt with the lurking homoeroticism (replacing that with sexism, I suppose) angle by giving the Dr a female sidekick.

Ummm…wot? Having I been missing something for the last 40+ years?

Dr Who has had female sidekicks continuously since it started back around the time I was born. I even had the hots for Leila when I was a teenager. 🙂

HiddenDragon10:29 pm 26 May 13

milkman said :

More groundbreaking research from the University of East Bumcrack.

Bananaby has made that prestigious institution famous, but Ms Crabb gets the credit for revealing its existence – in a somewhat different context.

LSWCHP said :

I believe Poetix is the resident RA expert on the Doctor, so I’d be interested to hear what she has to say on this subject.

Any Australian would be an expert, compared to an American academic.

Lindy Orthia is course convenor for a course called “science and public awareness” run by the Australian National University’s Australian National Centre for the Public Awareness of Science. Um, part of the ANU’s “science communication” courses. The Australian National University is pleased to promote, to the status of convenor, an “academic” who writes like this? : “The biggest elephant in the room is the problem privately nursed by many fans of loving a TV show when it is thunderingly racist.”

Isn’t the ANU looking for savings?

Doctor Who and Race, a volume of essays by 23 contributing writers, will be published by Intellect Books in 2013

Badly named publisher or what?

I’m awaiting “Dr Who and Gender” coming out. He’s always been male, the sexist bastard.

Turns out this work follows on from a 2010 Thesis which you can read online.
https://digitalcollections.anu.edu.au/handle/1885/49358

“In this thesis I examine representations of science in the long-running science fiction television series, ‘Doctor Who’. In particular I analyse the social, cultural, political and economic aspects of this representation to assess its consistency with four goals for the democratisation of science… I then analyse in greater theoretical depth three ways that debates about the democratisation of science manifest within ‘Doctor Who’. I show that the program varies in the degree to which it is consistent with the goals for the democratisation of science.”

More groundbreaking research from the University of East Bumcrack.

HiddenDragon6:34 pm 26 May 13

So Dr Who is the new Biggles – well, at least they’ve dealt with the lurking homoeroticism (replacing that with sexism, I suppose) angle by giving the Dr a female sidekick.

As we speak, the Liberals’ wastewatch booklet is being updated to include this (even if no federal funds were involved) as another instance of godless, un-Australian profligacy.

Oh, and aren’t we due for some nudge-nudge, wink-wink, research-based double entendres about the size of the Dr’s sonic screwdriver???

I’ve been watching Dr Who for over 40 years, and I’ve never picked up on anything like this, so I’m with Ben and Matt.

I believe Poetix is the resident RA expert on the Doctor, so I’d be interested to hear what she has to say on this subject.

Well there’s a budget saving.

I seriously hope that there was no research grant for this rubbish.

So cricket is racist? They must have missed all those Indian, Pakistani and West Indian players who have been playing the game at the top level for many years.

You can follow more of Lindy’s groundbreaking work here: http://doctorwhoandrace.com

There’s also details on how to order her entire book on the topic of Dr Who and Race.

See, the unions say ANU doesn’t have any fat to trim. I suspect there is.

I think it’s BS. I rely on Robert Macklin to educate me whats racist and whats not, and he has not mentioned Dr Who, well not yet. He could later as he may have a backlog and could take some time to get to ‘W’.

Rubbish!

> “The biggest elephant in the room…”

This implies there are more than 1 elephant in the room. Guess she must be in the T.A.R.D.I.S. somewhere.

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