The ghosts of Constitution Avenue ride again

JC said :

PS most visitors will be rather familiar with chip seal, it is used the country over, Canberra is NOT unique in this regards.

Yes, but Canberra is unique in that they do a half-assed job of it. No compacting of the gravel. No sweeping of the loose stones (at least until over a week later), and no quality control.

There was a term used to refer to the usage of trams in Canberra as “modal fetishism”, however, it would be the case that more people would prefer to ride in trams than in buses. Even if buses are cheaper to maintain on the road.

Jere13 said :

He forgot to mention that based on current practice the new Constitution Ave will be:

“Paved with the territory’s finest gravel that bathes the surrounding area in glorious tyre roar. Visitors to Constitution Avenue can even take a piece of Canberra home with them by picking up one of the many lose stones that are cast their way by passing cars”

I see you didn’t take my advice in another thread to go get some help about this issue you have with chip seal, it is really taking over your life.

For what it is worth and as mentioned in the other thread normally when they redo a road like this they use hot mix, so don’t think you need to worry yourself with chip seal on this road for another 10 years or so. Maybe by then the therapy will kick in and you won’t be stressing so much.

PS most visitors will be rather familiar with chip seal, it is used the country over, Canberra is NOT unique in this regards.

That’s why Sydney sucks so bad; cars, parking, stuff all that post enlightenment thinking! Now they’re having to spend billions fixing it, like making George St a light rail and pedestrian zone. We’re just getting a head start on fixing the failed planning idea of the last century.

Another plan to satisfy the greenies and hipsters who want bus lanes and pretty grass and trees? Why can they start actually planning for the masses and provide things like parking and decent roads. Instead we’re lugged with cycle lanes, bus lanes, and car lanes that no longer fit your average hatchback.
Just leave the damn road alone! If I want bench seats, trees, and open areas I’ll go to a f*ing park!

JC said :

… the main idea is to develop BuBurleyriffin’s plan of a grand boulevard.

*mutters about names*
He called himself Walter Griffin. His colleagues called him Walter, and his underlings Mr Griffin.
Menzies called him Mr Burley Griffin, and unfortunately it stuck.

He forgot to mention that based on current practice the new Constitution Ave will be:

“Paved with the territory’s finest gravel that bathes the surrounding area in glorious tyre roar. Visitors to Constitution Avenue can even take a piece of Canberra home with them by picking up one of the many lose stones that are cast their way by passing cars”

If Shane’s got anything to do with it, the whole place will be riddled with spine-jarring inverted pot-holes.

And is that a ghost-car I see parked on the footpath?

c_c™ said :

Canberroid said :

I don’t see why they want to spend so much on beautifying Constitution Avenue. There are no shops there, there’s Parkes Way between it and the lake, and it’s a ghost town on weekends.

a) there’s a flaw in your logic, in that if there’s no shops and no people at the moment, and nothing changes, that remains the status quo. If they upgrade it, then shop will open and people will come. Basically your post is akin to Scrivener walking to the top of a hill, saying there’s no people and no pollies so why bother building a national capital on these limestone plains. We’ll keep it in Melbourne.

b) have to understand this in the broader planning context. City to Lake sees Parkes Way being sunk, hence Constitution Ave will become the main east-west ground level link in that area. There’s also plenty of potential for medium density and even higher density infill along the route, not to mention a stadium potentially.

Whoa stop spreading visionary ideas. You might scare someone!

Canberroid said :

I don’t see why they want to spend so much on beautifying Constitution Avenue. There are no shops there, there’s Parkes Way between it and the lake, and it’s a ghost town on weekends.

a) there’s a flaw in your logic, in that if there’s no shops and no people at the moment, and nothing changes, that remains the status quo. If they upgrade it, then shop will open and people will come. Basically your post is akin to Scrivener walking to the top of a hill, saying there’s no people and no pollies so why bother building a national capital on these limestone plains. We’ll keep it in Melbourne.

b) have to understand this in the broader planning context. City to Lake sees Parkes Way being sunk, hence Constitution Ave will become the main east-west ground level link in that area. There’s also plenty of potential for medium density and even higher density infill along the route, not to mention a stadium potentially.