ACT Election – Does anyone care?

PigDog 5 October 2012 92

I am totally unimpressed with anything anyone is offering in what is essentially a council election.

Am I alone in thinking this?

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cranky cranky 9:59 pm 10 Oct 12

Fairly sure there are locals interested in the establishment of a small airstrip for private aircraft parking/ movements/pilot training in the ACT (Williamsdale)?

Labors reasons for non approval are derisory.

Why has this been avoided like the plague by all parties?

Pirate_Biggles Pirate_Biggles 10:49 am 10 Oct 12

Madam Cholet said :

Ok pirate Pete, I’m looking for somewhere to put my vote. Convince me it won’t be wasted. How the heck would you keep whoever gets government accountable…. If that’s what you are aiming for? My vote will be lost to the major parties if I just vote for your mob, but is that the way to go if I am disillusioned with what’s on offer? Or should I fill in the other boxes to make sure my vote goes somewhere in the end but is still a protest?

Please, fill in all the other boxes – I number mine all the way to the end, so I can ensure precisely the order in which I prefer to be represented is conveyed – plus it makes sure my vote isn’t ‘wasted’.
If a candidate doesn’t make quota on 1st preference, the process continues. If you don’t put party candidates in your top preferences, your vote will count for the other parties/independents first before being allocated to those parties.

If the election is a case of ‘least worst’ to ‘worst’ ranking for you, allocating all your numbers ensures that the parties are placed exactly where you desire them to be, and may deny undesirable candidates from benefiting from a lack of standing with respect to your vote.

Of course, numbering just the candidates you think are worth electing is another option, but I like to have some say in how I am represented, however slight. I can then legitimately say the elected MLA needs to represent ME, as I had a say in them getting the job.

Keeping governments accountable to the populace is part of the Pirate Party platform, which we will aim to ensure by implementing government transparency and openness.
We will also be seeking to ensure any research used to make decisions is scientifically sound and able to be peer reviewed effectively prior to the decisions in question being taken.

This also involves providing communities with greater input into any consultation process – prior to decisions being made. Lack of community consultation in government decision making is a sentiment echoed by every community group I have had contact with so far.

Our policies can be reviewed here:
http://actpirates.org.au/index.php/policies

My beer of choice is Guinness, or other dark, heavy beers when drinking local produce.
The Wig & Pen’s Velvet Cream Stout is delicious.
If these (or other small brewery beers) aren’t available, Cooper’s Pale Ale is next in line.

I appreciate a good home-brew, and enjoy single malt Scotch whisky or Irish whiskey with a small splash of water to help separate the flavours. I have also been known to drink quality vodka neat in the Russian fashion.

Stuart Biggs
Pirate Party ACT for Molonglo

colourful sydney racing identity colourful sydney racing identity 11:54 am 09 Oct 12

pepmeup said :

this may help decide some votes:

http://citynews.com.au/2012/labor-blow-ratepayer-body-confirms-rates-will-triple/

have you got the spare cash to pay triple rates?

will your landlord pass these fees straight onto you?

can you afford another 4 years of ALP/Greens Gov? I know I cant

*groan* love the way party hacks pop up on Riot Act at this time of the electoral cycle

caf caf 11:42 am 09 Oct 12

I think it’s pretty obvious why there’s so much ennui regarding this election – it’s just a repeat of the last election! We want a new episode please, we’ve already seen this one.

pirate_taco pirate_taco 9:58 am 09 Oct 12

poetix said :

pirate_taco said :

Duffbowl said :

c_c said :

RA should seriously poll all the candidates on their beer choices, might just be the best way to actually know who to vote for.

I’d support this, but the cynic in me says that they would just nominate whatever they thought was going to look better with the voters.

Privately: “Can’t stand beer; horrible brown bitter crap” (note: this is most definitely *not* my view)
Publicly: “Well, when I’m having a few mates around to watch the football, I drink *insert name of beer selected by media adviser*”

I’m not a big fan of most beers. I’ve had a few dark ales that I didn’t mind, but I prefer to stick with cider or perry, which is increasingly easy to do these days with most good pubs having a cider on tap now, or at least a choice of something other than strongbow in bottles.
I also like to homebrew cider, ginger beer and lemonade. I missed the last ACT Beekeepers meeting and the chance to try some mead there, but they included the recipe in the most recent newsletter, so I might try that as my next brew.

I’m not a fan of watching sports either. I’ve always preferred to be playing than watching, but I don’t tend to do that much either. The last sport I regularly played was junior aussie rules for the Queanbeyan Tigers (quit after the U16s season), and the most recent sport I had a go at was a ride day at Wakefield a few months ago on my ’91 FZR1000, but I’ve got no interest in actual racing.
On the topic of racing, I’d like it if Canberra had a race circuit, and as I said in my Lego video, it could also be used as a training facility.

Glen Takkenberg
Pirate Party ACT for Ginninderra

Glen, there’s no way to put this nicely. You are a dag. Anyone who favours drinks that could appear in The Lord of the Rings without continuity problems arising is a dag. I mean mead? Bee still my beeting heart.

No offence intended though, at least it shows a refreshing lack of reliance on mere fashion.

I will readily admit that i don’t follow fashion trends.

I’ve never actually drunk mead, and I was disappointed that I missed a chance to try it at the last ACT Beekeepers meeting.
I plan on getting a new bee colony after my first one died, and I’d like something to do with the honey.
I also am a fan of trying new ideas, or reviving old ones if they worked, like rebuilding the bus network using principles from the 70s and 80s that were successful http://www.actpirates.org.au/index.php/policies/connecting-the-city#Rebuild-a-successful-bus-transit-network – as Dr Paul Mees submitted to the ACT Government a few years ago and was promptly ignored.

Thumper Thumper 8:59 pm 08 Oct 12

JimCharles said :

What I don’t understand is, if Canberra is a public service town, how has anybody except the ALP got the slightest chance of being elected?

Wouldn’t it be like turkeys voting for Christmas, voting for any of the others who want to slash costs and jobs?

I’m just wondering where this ‘slashing jobs’ comes from?

Did Seselja announce this as a policy or is the ALP just making it?

Besides, the ACT PS is tiny compared the feds.

JimCharles JimCharles 7:08 pm 08 Oct 12

What I don’t understand is, if Canberra is a public service town, how has anybody except the ALP got the slightest chance of being elected? Wouldn’t it be like turkeys voting for Christmas, voting for any of the others who want to slash costs and jobs?

dundle dundle 3:47 pm 08 Oct 12

I feel the same. I can’t decide who to vote for because I don’t really like any of them. I think I voted Greens last time, but I haven’t been happy with them at all really, I can’t say I really like Labor, and it would take something serious to make me vote Liberal…nobody really has any policies that have jumped out at me as being great, and quite a few have had plans to spend money which really annoy me.

Seriously considering doing an informal vote for the first time because I’m so apathetic…

poetix poetix 3:36 pm 08 Oct 12

pirate_taco said :

Duffbowl said :

c_c said :

RA should seriously poll all the candidates on their beer choices, might just be the best way to actually know who to vote for.

I’d support this, but the cynic in me says that they would just nominate whatever they thought was going to look better with the voters.

Privately: “Can’t stand beer; horrible brown bitter crap” (note: this is most definitely *not* my view)
Publicly: “Well, when I’m having a few mates around to watch the football, I drink *insert name of beer selected by media adviser*”

I’m not a big fan of most beers. I’ve had a few dark ales that I didn’t mind, but I prefer to stick with cider or perry, which is increasingly easy to do these days with most good pubs having a cider on tap now, or at least a choice of something other than strongbow in bottles.
I also like to homebrew cider, ginger beer and lemonade. I missed the last ACT Beekeepers meeting and the chance to try some mead there, but they included the recipe in the most recent newsletter, so I might try that as my next brew.

I’m not a fan of watching sports either. I’ve always preferred to be playing than watching, but I don’t tend to do that much either. The last sport I regularly played was junior aussie rules for the Queanbeyan Tigers (quit after the U16s season), and the most recent sport I had a go at was a ride day at Wakefield a few months ago on my ’91 FZR1000, but I’ve got no interest in actual racing.
On the topic of racing, I’d like it if Canberra had a race circuit, and as I said in my Lego video, it could also be used as a training facility.

Glen Takkenberg
Pirate Party ACT for Ginninderra

Glen, there’s no way to put this nicely. You are a dag. Anyone who favours drinks that could appear in The Lord of the Rings without continuity problems arising is a dag. I mean mead? Bee still my beeting heart.

No offence intended though, at least it shows a refreshing lack of reliance on mere fashion.

Duffbowl Duffbowl 1:51 pm 08 Oct 12

MarkG said :

We used to home brew our own beer. It was pretty Ok – thick, strong, and slightly different in every batch. We tried to branch out into ginger beer but that experiment ended explosively (be careful how long you leave that stuff in the bottles.)

The equipment has gotten remarkably cheap in recent years. I’d recommend it to anyone vaguely interested. Also the phrase ‘Brindabella beer’ really rolls off the tongue, so that’s an advantage right there.

Mark Gibbons
Pirate Party ACT candidate for Brindabella

A homebrewer? Well, my vote is quite easily bought right there 🙂

Primal Primal 12:44 pm 08 Oct 12

Voting for independent candidates becomes more and more enticing with every passing day…

wildturkeycanoe wildturkeycanoe 8:41 am 08 Oct 12

Mr Evil said :

rosscoact said :

Mr Evil said :

As far as I can see, the choices are –

Option A: Team Dishonest and Incompetent.

or

Option B: Team Useless and Directionless.

Option C: Team Earnest and Impractical

Option D: Team Frothing at the Mouth Hate

Option E: Team ‘Show Us Ya T#ts’, and ‘Where’s Me Bloody Dragway?’

Finally, we have a ballot paper worth looking at….

MarkG MarkG 8:39 am 08 Oct 12

We used to home brew our own beer. It was pretty Ok – thick, strong, and slightly different in every batch. We tried to branch out into ginger beer but that experiment ended explosively (be careful how long you leave that stuff in the bottles.)

The equipment has gotten remarkably cheap in recent years. I’d recommend it to anyone vaguely interested. Also the phrase ‘Brindabella beer’ really rolls off the tongue, so that’s an advantage right there.

Mark Gibbons
Pirate Party ACT candidate for Brindabella

Duffbowl Duffbowl 10:22 pm 07 Oct 12

Good to see some of the northside candidates have answered.

Brindabella candidates, where are you?

pirate_taco pirate_taco 6:21 pm 07 Oct 12

Duffbowl said :

c_c said :

RA should seriously poll all the candidates on their beer choices, might just be the best way to actually know who to vote for.

I’d support this, but the cynic in me says that they would just nominate whatever they thought was going to look better with the voters.

Privately: “Can’t stand beer; horrible brown bitter crap” (note: this is most definitely *not* my view)
Publicly: “Well, when I’m having a few mates around to watch the football, I drink *insert name of beer selected by media adviser*”

I’m not a big fan of most beers. I’ve had a few dark ales that I didn’t mind, but I prefer to stick with cider or perry, which is increasingly easy to do these days with most good pubs having a cider on tap now, or at least a choice of something other than strongbow in bottles.
I also like to homebrew cider, ginger beer and lemonade. I missed the last ACT Beekeepers meeting and the chance to try some mead there, but they included the recipe in the most recent newsletter, so I might try that as my next brew.

I’m not a fan of watching sports either. I’ve always preferred to be playing than watching, but I don’t tend to do that much either. The last sport I regularly played was junior aussie rules for the Queanbeyan Tigers (quit after the U16s season), and the most recent sport I had a go at was a ride day at Wakefield a few months ago on my ’91 FZR1000, but I’ve got no interest in actual racing.
On the topic of racing, I’d like it if Canberra had a race circuit, and as I said in my Lego video, it could also be used as a training facility.

Glen Takkenberg
Pirate Party ACT for Ginninderra

Madam Cholet Madam Cholet 1:19 pm 07 Oct 12

Matt_Watts said :

poetix said :

Matt_Watts said :

But Canberra’s variety, including its bars and beers, can’t be beat IMHO.

Just when you’re warming to someone they come out with hokum like this…Have ye never heard of Melbourne? Let alone places in other countries?

Used to work in The Rocks, have visited Melbourne quite a few times. Still, I genuinely feel more connected to people I’ve met in Canberra’s bars – only to be expected because I’ve spent most time here!

Never warmed to Melbourne probably solely based on the fact that it thinks it’s ‘so not up itself like Sydney’, except it is. It couldn’t not be. Everyone knows someone who bemoans the fact they can’t live in Melbourne. Well begone I say. I could and would live in other places, but heck I really like Canberra right now. In a strange way I feel happy that we have nothing as serious to vote on like the other basket cases around the country.

Anyway…..Candidates…..are you getting the message here? we are somewhat over it. Need to change the way you engage and deliver your messages. If the Libs don’t win this time, please follow up with wholesale change starting at the top. And if Labor and the mad greenies get back in, then maybe try whinging a bit less and just put your noses to the grind stone.

Matt_Watts Matt_Watts 8:59 pm 06 Oct 12

poetix said :

Matt_Watts said :

But Canberra’s variety, including its bars and beers, can’t be beat IMHO.

Just when you’re warming to someone they come out with hokum like this…Have ye never heard of Melbourne? Let alone places in other countries?

Ha, yeah, but it’s the people. Used to work in The Rocks, have visited Melbourne quite a few times. Still, I genuinely feel more connected to people I’ve met in Canberra’s bars – only to be expected because I’ve spent most time here!

Girt_Hindrance Girt_Hindrance 8:14 pm 06 Oct 12

I too am thoroughly unimpressed, although I know how I’ll vote. It just looks like a bunch of hypocritical children pulling each others hair to me.

poetix poetix 7:50 pm 06 Oct 12

Matt_Watts said :

But Canberra’s variety, including its bars and beers, can’t be beat IMHO.

Just when you’re warming to someone they come out with hokum like this…Have ye never heard of Melbourne? Let alone places in other countries?

Duffbowl Duffbowl 7:19 pm 06 Oct 12

XXXX Sovereign, the Fosters Lager of Brisbane. Marks deducted, GA.
Eumundi Lager; CUB ceased brewing it in 2009, and only revived earlier this year by a brewer on the Sunshine Coast. The brewery and winery is now on the market, so it’s probably a dead label again.
XXXX Gold; it’s mid-strength swill, but very easy to drink in the tropics.
While I love Canberra’s two operational commerical breweries, it’s a bit of a stretch to say our bar scene can’t be beaten.

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