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ACT Election – Does anyone care?

By PigDog - 5 October 2012 92

I am totally unimpressed with anything anyone is offering in what is essentially a council election.

Am I alone in thinking this?

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ACT Election – Does anyone care?
beejay76 11:23 am 05 Oct 12

Brianna said :

Agreed. Seems that neither party has anything to offer. Yes, peitab, it will be one loses less than the other. A complete farce. What happens with donkey votes? Are they completely discounted or do they automatically go as a vote to the current party?

Donkeys are “not counted toward any candidate but are set aside.”
http://www.aec.gov.au/voting/informal_voting/

palndrumm 11:10 am 05 Oct 12

peitab said :

I’m of the understanding that donkey votes are completely discounted, but happy to be corrected on this!

I always thought a donkey vote (ie, just numbering the boxes 1, 2, 3, 4, etc from top to bottom) was counted as a legitimate vote. There’s no possible way they can determine whether the voter just did it that way as a protest or because they don’t care, or if the voter has genuinely ranked the candidates in their order of preference and it coincidentally matches the order on the ballot. Discounting donkey votes would prevent people who actually wanted to vote that way from voting at all, which would have to be unconstitutional, surely…?

pirate_taco 10:46 am 05 Oct 12

Madam Cholet said :

Aren’t the Greens (Fed, Territory or State of some description) on record as saying they would never side with the Liberals in a pink fit?

I believe Bob Brown recommended to the ACT Greens in 2008 to side with Liberals in order to gain ministerial positions, and the ACT Greens decided not to take that advice.
Without Bob Brown leading the Greens anymore, I doubt they’d have many advocates to side with Liberals.

If Pirate Party ACT was given the balance of power, and had to choose one side or the other in order for a government to form, I’d struggle to call which way we would go. We would need to take the offers given to us and hold a ballot amongst our membership base to decide.
I’m not even sure yet which of the two majors I’ll put last on my ballot on the 20th.

I feel your apathy towards the incumbents, and that’s why I’m running.

Glen Takkenberg
Pirate Party ACT for Ginninderra

peitab 10:45 am 05 Oct 12

Brianna said :

Agreed. Seems that neither party has anything to offer. Yes, peitab, it will be one loses less than the other. A complete farce. What happens with donkey votes? Are they completely discounted or do they automatically go as a vote to the current party?

I’m of the understanding that donkey votes are completely discounted, but happy to be corrected on this!

rosscoact 10:35 am 05 Oct 12

If you don’t want to vote then don’t vote. Make a stand, refuse to vote then refuse to pay the fine and serve your time loudly.

To quote Richard Yates “It’s a disease. Nobody thinks or feels or cares any more; nobody gets excited or believes in anything except their own comfortable little God damn mediocrity.”

Madam Cholet 10:18 am 05 Oct 12

Team Katy or Zed Instead? I think that says it all. They think they can apply slogans to make us feel all fuzzy about them. I think it will be close because of the tiredness of Labor and the waning star of The Greens that will in turn give the Libs a boost. The Greens will again hold the winning hand in deciding who they go with and they will again go with Labor. Aren’t the Greens (Fed, Territory or State of some description) on record as saying they would never side with the Liberals in a pink fit?

It’s a shame that no other party will win on its merits instead of winning on dwindling support for the incumbent. I know, I know, parties lose elections, they don’t win them, but there has to be some recognition of good policy. Even if they had any good policy it’s not easy to find out what it is amongst all the whingeing they do against each other.

Brianna 10:18 am 05 Oct 12

Agreed. Seems that neither party has anything to offer. Yes, peitab, it will be one loses less than the other. A complete farce. What happens with donkey votes? Are they completely discounted or do they automatically go as a vote to the current party?

p1 10:17 am 05 Oct 12
chewy14 10:14 am 05 Oct 12

Meh.

PantsMan 10:12 am 05 Oct 12

peitab said :

+1

I completely agree, and I usually love following the Legislative Assembly shenanigans that approximate state-based politics.

I’m convinced that there won’t actually be a winning political party this time – it’s just that one party will lose less than the others. It’ll be interesting to see how many people don’t bother to vote, or donkey vote this time. Any money says the proportion will be greater than the last few elections.

Liberals will “win”, however, they will not get a majority, and the Labor/Greens cabal will inflict themselves on us for another four years.

peitab 10:02 am 05 Oct 12

+1

I completely agree, and I usually love following the Legislative Assembly shenanigans that approximate state-based politics.

I’m convinced that there won’t actually be a winning political party this time – it’s just that one party will lose less than the others. It’ll be interesting to see how many people don’t bother to vote, or donkey vote this time. Any money says the proportion will be greater than the last few elections.

Thumper 9:55 am 05 Oct 12

PantsMan said :

If I’m still in Canberra and forced to vote in 2016, just kill me.

My sentiments exactly.

PantsMan 9:47 am 05 Oct 12

If I’m still in Canberra and forced to vote in 2016, just kill me.

Keijidosha 9:37 am 05 Oct 12

My feelings about our choices in the upcoming election are best summarised by this South Park clip.

ex-vectis 9:24 am 05 Oct 12

Slightly ashamed to agree with you PigDog, but I agree. +1

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