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ACT Labor cull two election candidates

By Jonathon Reynolds 15 July 2008 20

The ABC News Online is reporting the two Labor candidates have pulled out:

  • Pascal Leahy in Ginninderra
  • Rececca Cody in Brindabella

This brings the number of candidates on the ticket in each of those two electorates back to the numbers of seats up for grabs (i.e. 5 each).

I had heard from sources close to Ms. Cody that it was alleged that she vocally not happy with the support that the ALP was giving her (or not as was actually the case) and it is also alleged she had also been seriously contemplating pulling out of the race for a number of weeks now.

I think the final nail in the coffin for the ALP prompting the drop of the two candidates was when Antony Green pointed out in his Election Blog that by the ALP running more candidates than seats in a particular electorate the party would be slpit across multiple columns.

My belief is that by running too many candidates the ALP strategists believed that if Hargreaves or Stanhope were to later resign (within the forthcoming term) then there would be a geater chance of another ALP candidate back filling the vacancy through a count back. In reality on election day by having the ALP spread across two columns  there was more of chance of the ALP vote being actually marginalised throgh “leakage” as a Labor supporter might number all the candidates in one of the two columns, but might not think to do so for both columns.

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Antony Green 6:41 pm 16 Jul 08

Actually Aurelius @ #13, I think I would suggest that someone was not properly informed about the ACT electoral system. There are two very important difference with Tasmania. One, only the ACT has these extra rotations which means that if you stand more candidates than vacancies, your ticket gets randomly split by the Electoral Commission. In Tasmania you can stand as many candidates as you like and they will all appear in the same group. Second, in Tasmania, a formal vote requires there to be as many preferences as there are vacancies to fill. In the ACT, only one preference is required though the ballot paper instructions do encourage more preferences.

peterh 3:03 pm 16 Jul 08

Mælinar said :

@peterh – politics are exempt from the DNK register.

maybe they missed me.
oh god, may they miss me.
or call when I am doing a bath run for the kids – I won’t answer the phone then…

Jonathon Reynolds 2:53 pm 16 Jul 08

The Canberra Times has a bit more detail here:
http://www.canberratimes.com.au/news/local/news/general/labor-loses-two-poll-hopefuls/811751.aspx
Quite understandable given that Pascal would want to take time to help his partner with their new born twins.

Aurelius said :

My understanding is that one reason for having additional candidates is to cope with this situation – if you have 20 candidates, there’s every chance that one or more may become unavailable, unsuitable, or otherwise unable to complete the process.

I see where you are coming from but that will not work in the ACT where doing well at the polls is based on profile and name recognition… normally if a candidate were to drop out during an election race a party would simply back fill the vacancy with another candidate. That is what the whole point of having the “traditional” pre-selection process – the party ranks potential candidates and puts the top individual(s) forward. Why would you go to the expense and simply waste resources on the raising the profile of candidates you may never use?

However that being said it appears that the Community Alliance seem to be taking a very different approach to running their campaign and raising candidate profiles. Ric Hingee who is the president of the Community Alliance Party (and has said numerous times on the record that he is not running as a candidate) seems to be hell bent on raising his own profile and meddling with the campaign process at the expense of his own people:

The City News ran what would have otherwise been a solid piece on Norvan Vogt (Molonglo) had Mr. Hingee not interfered:

http://www.citynews.com.au/index.php/content/article/vogt_puts_pigeon_among_cats/
“…Not that Vogt’s going that far, but when quizzed on the leadership issue and the rumours of rumblings within the Alliance, a wry, occasionally worried, smile creeps across his face. The rumours say there’s friction between Vogt and party president (not standing at the election) Ric Hingee. Since the interview Mr Hingee has written to “CityNews” to say that he understood there were “strange” questions being asked of Norvan about “schisms in the party or the executive or something. I don’t know what that might be about, but our exec is working just fine”. Vogt was not quite so adamant: “I won’t pretend that it’s not difficult (the internal workings of the CAP) because it is, to be honest. It’s like herding cats!…”

Don’t get me wrong … having his own party president creating “media issues” and thus undermining the good work that Norvan was otherwise doing must be soul destroying.

Mælinar 2:28 pm 16 Jul 08

@peterh – politics are exempt from the DNK register.

peterh 2:04 pm 16 Jul 08

Mælinar said :

I was tele-polled regarding local politics recently,

I really love the DO NOT CALL REGISTER!!

Mr Evil 2:02 pm 16 Jul 08

Goodusername = Labor Lackey! 😉

Mælinar 1:50 pm 16 Jul 08

I was tele-polled regarding local politics recently, hopefully I added my own 2c to the equation with the answer ‘who?’.

Although that Pascal name rings a bell, was that the one who looks quite nice in a yellow leatherette top from a while ago ?

Aurelius 1:29 pm 16 Jul 08

My understanding is that one reason for having additional candidates is to cope with this situation – if you have 20 candidates, there’s every chance that one or more may become unavailable, unsuitable, or otherwise unable to complete the process.
I think the speculation that the excess candidates is part of a failed experiment is a little skewed – does anyone here really think the Labor Party are that uninformed about the electoral system we have here? Especially considering a similar system has operated in Tasmania for decades?

Crikey 11:23 am 16 Jul 08

Hmmmm….goodusername needs to take some happy pills.

I can’t see anything that wrong with JR’s comments.

Shame about Pascal Leahy as he seems like a decent guy. I met him a few times when he ran out in Brindabella last election.

PM 9:52 am 16 Jul 08

I heard they pulled out for “family reasons”.

Wow, and on the same day – I didn’t know they were related…!

jakez 9:41 am 16 Jul 08

An end to the ALP’s failed experiment. It never made a lick of sense even before Antony Green pointed out what would happen on the ballot paper.

Thumper 12:06 am 16 Jul 08

And yes, I am working….

Go to You Tube and search for The Feldons 😉

Thumper 12:04 am 16 Jul 08

Why do people talk about this site?

Oh dear, people don’t agree with me. I reckon I’ll just take my bat and ball home…

johnboy 10:50 pm 15 Jul 08

goodusername said :

Why do people talk about this site? The one political piece amongst the truffle and toilet door threads and it is total fiction. Im heading back over to Andrew Landeryou’s site. It may be equally garbage but at least it’s fun to read. .

Oddly enough it helps to stay civil.

A bit like real life.

Whatsup 9:51 pm 15 Jul 08

goodusername: Don’t let the door hit you on the way out !

goodusername 9:18 pm 15 Jul 08

“Dear goodusername, as this site is right of reply, there is no need to be personally abusive, why not just refute the parts of this post you consider incorrect?”

JR is more than welcome to reply. Not that I’ll stick around to read it. Why do people talk about this site? The one political piece amongst the truffle and toilet door threads and it is total fiction. Im heading back over to Andrew Landeryou’s site. It may be equally garbage but at least it’s fun to read. .

bd84 8:58 pm 15 Jul 08

read “candidates realised they had absolutely no chance of winning a seat as a Labor candidate and withdrew”

how many days until a new government is voted in??

miz 8:37 pm 15 Jul 08

Dear goodusername, as this site is right of reply, there is no need to be personally abusive, why not just refute the parts of this post you consider incorrect?

Weaselburger 7:55 pm 15 Jul 08

Geez Dude Take a Chill Pill

goodusername 7:49 pm 15 Jul 08

You ought to be ashamed of presenting your totally misinformed words as posessing some degree of fact. Virtually every point you make, starting with the headline, is utter rubbish. Is it any wonder that you are widely regarded as a bilious, self-regarding oddity that lurks around the northern edge of Canberra. I have ‘heard from sources close to’ the Libs that not even the they will have you.

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