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Ahmed Alzaabi to plead guilty, but not on the booze

By johnboy - 13 August 2008 75

[First filed: July 18, 2008 @ 14:10]

The Canberra Times informs that the drink driving United Arab Emirates’ cadet who killed another ADFA cadet last month in a ghastly accident, Ahmed Alzaabi, 24, is going to plead guilty to the culpable driving charges on condition that the drink driving be dropped. (Also with an amazing photo of the wreckage).

Presumably that will save him having to apply for asylum here.

I’m not sure how much sympathy I have for a young Arab officer pranging his Lexus coupe while pissed and killing people.

UPDATED: My man in the UAE had this to say:

    I’d indeed expect the bizarre plea bargain to relate to public shame at home and probably army regulations covering drunkenness. Many Emiratis drink here, and a staggering number kill themselves on the roads. Assuming he’s an Emirati would expect he’ll get good legal and financial support from his government who’ll want this all to go away as quietly as possible.

ANOTHER UPDATE: The CT reports that young Ahmed has fronted the court with a new legal team (farewell Bernard Collaery) and plead guilty to:

    “one charge of culpable driving causing death and two counts of culpable driving negligently causing grievous bodily harm

Sentencing on 21 August.

FURTHER UPDATE: pug206gti had this to add:

    Having been by chance in the court this morning and seen the matter I can report that DPP presented no evidence on the drink driving chage and it was dismissed. As to the other charges, he did not consent to the Magistrates Court’s jurisdiction and was committed to stand trial in the Supreme Court. I guess he’s hoping to go before Higgins or Penfold.

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Ahmed Alzaabi to plead guilty, but not on the booze
Mælinar 3:15 pm 18 Jul 08

@shanefos – if that comment was directed at me, I have been on a battlefield with a batallion on Ghurkas and a batallion of Singapore Defence Force personnel when the lights went out.

I can most assuredly inform you I was enlightened as to how much bs the muslim faith is by 1,000 of its most devout followers between what they are seen to be doing, and what really happens.

(and before its asked, yes, they do – but neither are as bad as the Jodanians. The pet goats aren’t for fresh curry meat)

shanefos 3:10 pm 18 Jul 08

I love this site. Such enlightened opinion is so uplifting.

Mælinar 3:03 pm 18 Jul 08

I’ll auto-presume that he is a muslim, and since they aren’t allowed to drink the firewater, he’ll be ok just as long as he’s not convicted. At any rate, its not a quality (religious zealotry) supported by the armed forces in this country.

He’ll go home and his graceful comeback will be something derogatory towards our military for sending him home, thus assisting the next cycle of terrorist behaviour.

If they upheld the booze conviction, he’d suffer a lot of disgrace and might even top himself.

peterh 3:02 pm 18 Jul 08

Thumper said :

JB has nailed the issue here.

The DUI charge will hit him harder than anything else once he is back in the UAE.

if he is a Muslim, it will be really bad. No drinking, etc, etc. that kind of stuff will send you straight to hell.

shanefos 3:02 pm 18 Jul 08

Skidbladnir said :

As someone who got to witness first-hand a friend get killed by a drunk driver years ago, I this is a crock and a mockery of our system of law here in Australia.

But, if we suddenly get a spate of drug-related crime committed by tourists from UAE, we know who to blame for blabbing.

Not charging him with drink driving isn’t going to bring back the three kids who did die, nor really ease the suffering of their parents, and neither ignorance of the laws nor deliberate excessive enjoyment of exotic substances (where they may be legal) gets you off in foreign countries.

I know at least two people that have been driving while drunk and been involved in accidents that have resulted in the deaths of one or more of their passengers and in both cases they were given good behaviour bonds (and large cash payouts by TAC), so you can’t say that this is one case is “making a mockery of our system of law”.

And I think you’ll find that if you actually read the article that only one person died as a result of this accident…

Thumper 3:00 pm 18 Jul 08

JB has nailed the issue here.

The DUI charge will hit him harder than anything else once he is back in the UAE.

johnboy 2:56 pm 18 Jul 08

Frequently without a conviction it can be waved off as more of a misunderstanding.

peterh 2:53 pm 18 Jul 08

shanefos said :

“Presumably that will save him having to apply for asylum here.”
Excuse me? What the…???

If he thinks no-one from the UAE will know, they do read the papers, and there are a lot of immigrants who (presumably) talk to their relatives back home.

oh, his parents should be so proud….

why would he want the drink-driving charges removed?

if it is to save his career, too late. The world knows he did it.

Can’t get off that easily, and why isn’t he being charged with murder? He knowingly drove his vehicle with a skinful. Or does it mean that its ok to kill friends when you are in control of a powerful motor vehicle? throw the book at him, no bargaining, he did it, he should pay.

caf 2:45 pm 18 Jul 08

Presumably one would expect a more serious sentence on the three culpable driving charges (one “causing death” and the other two “causing grevious bodily harm”) than on the DUI anyway, right? Seems like a sensible decision to avoid having to put this through the full trial process.

Skidbladnir 2:44 pm 18 Jul 08

The crash looks even more spectacular in that photo than it would have been at time of impact, Jb.

As we mentioned in another thread (posts 84 and 88), it looks like they cut away the A and C pillars on the Lexus SC400 he was driving (mentioned in the original media release).

As far as emergency services are concerned, avoiding [further] damage to a car is secondary to rescuing a person.

Skidbladnir 2:36 pm 18 Jul 08

As someone who got to witness first-hand a friend get killed by a drunk driver years ago, I this is a crock and a mockery of our system of law here in Australia.

But, if we suddenly get a spate of drug-related crime committed by tourists from UAE, we know who to blame for blabbing.

Not charging him with drink driving isn’t going to bring back the three kids who did die, nor really ease the suffering of their parents, and neither ignorance of the laws nor deliberate excessive enjoyment of exotic substances (where they may be legal) gets you off in foreign countries.

johnboy 2:35 pm 18 Jul 08

No, not much sympathy for them either.

The comment about asylum relates to a how a conviction for drinking would go down with the folks in the UAE, even if they do turn more of a blind eye to booze than most places in the gulf.

shanefos 2:33 pm 18 Jul 08

“Presumably that will save him having to apply for asylum here.”
Excuse me? What the…???

“I’m not sure how much sympathy I have for a young Arab officer pranging his Lexus coupe while pissed and killing people.”
Sure, but good, blue-blooded Aussies that get p!ssed and crash their cars and kill people are just fine, huh? So long as the wreckage is impressive….

Mr Evil 2:27 pm 18 Jul 08

Feck him: if he was pissed, then he was pissed.

Thumper 2:15 pm 18 Jul 08

Sorry, fry him.

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