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Beggar’s Belief

By Thevoiceofchoice - 10 April 2013 39

I am a regular consumer at Woolworths in Dickson and besides fighting with traffic I have found there to be an even greater threat.. the beggars!

It is getting out of control. I think there is at least 5 who have taken up residence and continue to badger me going in and coming out. I was even accosted at my vehicle by a scruffy looking gentleman before I could turn off my ignition. Don’t get me wrong, I am one who gives to charity or even a beggar on a one off type scenario when I can, but when I see the same faces day in  and day out shows me they are not remotely interested in looking for work.. hell there are guys out there cleaning car windows!. No doubt they are collecting a government handout and this just happens to supplement their income.

In essence, I want the police to make use of their “move on” powers and stop this from developing. I am surprised Woolworths have not done anything, but then again, I have noticed them buying their cigarettes from them with their “donations”

Anyone else fed up or do I wear it like a bad suit?

What’s Your opinion?


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Beggar’s Belief
NoImRight 5:29 pm 10 Apr 13

They should be flogged from county to county and then transported for the term of their natural life.

Or else nuked from orbit. Its the only way to be sure.

bundah 5:28 pm 10 Apr 13

Some of them seem to size you up as you approach them so anyone who appears to have sucker tattoed on their forehead gets pounced on.

DrKoresh 5:27 pm 10 Apr 13

arescarti42 said :

Between the pay parking, beggars and long lines at what has to be Australia’s s***tiest Woolworths, I’m not sure why a lot of people bother shopping at Dickson.

Dickson Woolies is the most profitable supermarket in the southern hemisphere, if [user]LostInBias[/user] knows what he’s talking about, they must be doing something right. I think the main problem is that Dicko is a hub for some (frankly) fairly shitty neighbourhoods, which is why I’m not sure that gentrifying Dickson itself (which appears to be currently in the works) will be much help in making the shops a nicer area.

johnboy 5:18 pm 10 Apr 13

The golden ratio is distance to a bottle shop v. punters carrying unwanted change.

bundah 5:10 pm 10 Apr 13

One can find them congregating out the front of Coles Manuka on occasion as well.They don’t bother asking me,maybe they think i’m one of them?

poetix 4:57 pm 10 Apr 13

poptop said :

Frankly if I was homeless and probably with one of the other issues that goes with it (substance abuse, mental health, some sort of disability, etc, etc) I’d certainly spend my begged money on smokes, alcohol and drugs too. It is easy enough to get a cheap or free meal, getting money for cigarettes is much harder.

The rest of my life looks pretty bleak and so anything that makes it more bearable sounds like a reasonable course of action.

Criminalising homelessness behaviours [like begging and loitering] doesn’t solve anything much.

As the beggars are described as ‘scruffy’ I am wondering what employer you would suggest they approach? Certainly research shows that getting employed is effectively impossible without stable housing and some sort of support to address the reasons people have ended up in the situation.

Having beggers around is inconvenient and untidy; but getting the police to “move them on” only begs the question – move them to where?

In Bleak House the road sweeper (that is, he has a broom and clears horse poo out of the way of people wanting to cross the road, hoping for a coin) called Jo is continually ‘moved on’ by the police. Dickens calls a chapter ‘Moving On’:

‘”My instructions don’t go to that,” replies the constable. “My instructions are that this boy is to move on.”

Do you hear, Jo? It is nothing to you or to any one else that the great lights of the parliamentary sky have failed for some few years in this business to set you the example of moving on. The one grand recipe remains for you–the profound philosophical prescription–the be-all and the end-all of your strange existence upon earth. Move on! You are by no means to move off, Jo, for the great lights can’t at all agree about that. Move on!’

(Jo ends up dying.) I know we have social security now, and poverty means something different, but it’s interesting that some people still want the poor moved on, out of their sight.

SmileOnTrial 4:56 pm 10 Apr 13

poptop said :

Having beggers around is inconvenient and untidy; but getting the police to “move them on” only begs the question – move them to where?

Sri Lanka

FioBla 4:21 pm 10 Apr 13

poptop said :

…but getting the police to “move them on” only begs the question – move them to where?

Yarralumla.

poptop 4:03 pm 10 Apr 13

Frankly if I was homeless and probably with one of the other issues that goes with it (substance abuse, mental health, some sort of disability, etc, etc) I’d certainly spend my begged money on smokes, alcohol and drugs too. It is easy enough to get a cheap or free meal, getting money for cigarettes is much harder.

The rest of my life looks pretty bleak and so anything that makes it more bearable sounds like a reasonable course of action.

Criminalising homelessness behaviours [like begging and loitering] doesn’t solve anything much. As the beggars are described as ‘scruffy’ I am wondering what employer you would suggest they approach? Certainly research shows that getting employed is effectively impossible without stable housing and some sort of support to address the reasons people have ended up in the situation.

Having beggers around is inconvenient and untidy; but getting the police to “move them on” only begs the question – move them to where?

arescarti42 3:24 pm 10 Apr 13

Between the pay parking, beggars and long lines at what has to be Australia’s s***tiest Woolworths, I’m not sure why a lot of people bother shopping at Dickson.

tim_c 3:18 pm 10 Apr 13

Pitchka said :

I usually ask them for money before they get the chance to ask me… Confusion follows soon afterwards…

Lol – I had someone ask me for money at Woden Plaza a couple of years back. “I don’t get paid until next week” he moaned. It wasn’t until later I realised I should have said “I don’t get paid until the end of the month so perhaps you could help me out…”

Pitchka 3:07 pm 10 Apr 13

Dilandach said :

Ignore them or if you’re going to give them anything, give them the item that they’re asking money for.

Dilandach – what is it you desire begger

Begger – a Porchse

Dilandach – dont go anywhere, i shall be back..

Dilandach 2:52 pm 10 Apr 13

Ignore them or if you’re going to give them anything, give them the item that they’re asking money for.

Don’t ever give them money.

Pitchka 2:40 pm 10 Apr 13

I usually ask them for money before they get the chance to ask me… Confusion follows soon afterwards…

Felix the Cat 2:30 pm 10 Apr 13

Just ignore them or politely but firmly say “no thanks”, preferably before they even ask you for anything. Or perhaps wear earphones and pretend (or don’t pretend) you are listening to music and can’t hear them.

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