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Crace Terraces & Toilet Humour

By ThisIsAName 8 July 2010 39

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The image is a follow up to the recent “Crace – A place like no other” post.

Behold, a terrace floor plan with the toilet tastefully opening into the kitchen!

The shot is from a poster on the wall.  Floor plans used to be available  on the Crace website, but appear to have been taken down.

The terraces are more cramped than the image shows (the table isn’t to scale), so the toilet has zero “buffer zone”.

What on earth were the designers thinking?!?

What’s Your opinion?


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cleo 2:11 am 10 Jul 10

I – filed That’s filthy, you grub.

I-filed 5:58 pm 09 Jul 10

Well PBO would be quite happy!

http://the-riotact.com/?p=17550&cpage=1

” … I ate a cup of oriental instant noodles whilst having an explosive episode one day, I looked down into the toilet and then look at my noodles in the cup (same colour, thankfully not same consistency) and the whole experience put me off to the point I no longer eat noodles.

However i am an advocate of eating food in the toilet as i can see that in someway it saves time somehow. I think that if we all sat down and had a meal on the toilet we all may learn something.”

: )

farq 11:14 am 09 Jul 10

Jim Jones said :

And yet sometimes it seems like I’m the only who’s really trying to gentrify West Belco.

I only feel that way when I go to Magpies for dinner.

Jim Jones 9:37 am 09 Jul 10

farq said :

Jim Jones said :

Ain’t nothin’ wrong with West Belco: big blocks, bourbon and broken dreams.

Those big blocks are getting some pretty big prices lately.

Over $400k for an ex-govie 3 bed, with near original kitchen and bathroom.

And yet sometimes it seems like I’m the only who’s really trying to gentrify West Belco.

sepi 9:30 am 09 Jul 10

It would have been better to put the WC just outside on the patio, with a door to it from inside and from outside.

fgzk 9:29 am 09 Jul 10

An apartment I visit in Adelaide, you can watch the living room TV from the down stairs toilet. Idiocracy.

p1 10:45 pm 08 Jul 10

Jim Jones said :

Ain’t nothin’ wrong with West Belco: big blocks, bourbon and broken dreams.

Hey, I Resemble the remark!

WonderfulWorld 10:19 pm 08 Jul 10

Who gives a shit?

Trev 9:54 pm 08 Jul 10

There are some newish, very expensive townhouses in Torrens St Braddon which have the same thing: a feature crapper adjoining the living room.
Just refrain from serving your dinner guests sauerkraut or too many liquorice allsorts and you should be relatively safe.

cleo 9:49 pm 08 Jul 10

Well you wouldn’t have to worry about kitchen odours!

excharny 8:27 pm 08 Jul 10

people’s expectations are not adjusted to the fact that if you want a quality place in a quality location, you have to pay a premium and that premium continues to rise as the years progress

these places are built as shown to get them into a price range where people will buy them. And to justify the capital expenditure and returns required, they have to be built cheap

agree that there is still good and bad design, but in this price range, it is pot luck

farq 7:02 pm 08 Jul 10

Jim Jones said :

Ain’t nothin’ wrong with West Belco: big blocks, bourbon and broken dreams.

Those big blocks are getting some pretty big prices lately.

Over $400k for an ex-govie 3 bed, with near original kitchen and bathroom.

GardeningGirl 5:56 pm 08 Jul 10

Yes, two doors between, or an airlock as it’s described in another post, and a fan for internal wc’s with no window, is what I remember. Another thing though was the requirement in two storey residences to have a wc on each level. Not many options for that in such small places. I agree with the suggestion that people should vote with their feet.
Regarding the shared wall comment, what about fire safety regulations?
Btw I don’t think I posted on the Ticky Tacky thread, but GREAT pic!

ricci 5:10 pm 08 Jul 10

When I was doing architecture many years ago a toilet had to be separated from eating areas by two closing doors and also have permanent ventilation (not just an exhaust fan).

Jim Jones 5:04 pm 08 Jul 10

farq said :

All the bogons will end up renting all the way out there, allowing the western belconnon suburbs to renew.

Ain’t nothin’ wrong with West Belco: big blocks, bourbon and broken dreams.

farq 4:39 pm 08 Jul 10

cbrjoe said :

There seems to be alot of hate regarding the crace terraces recently, have these people actually had a look at the demo village? And compared it to the other offerings in McGreggor / Bonner / Casey?

Yes, we checked them out about two weeks ago while visiting some relatives who live out that way.

The hate is well deserved. Crace could go down as the worst large scale development in Canberra for the last 40 years (maybe more).

Still in one way it is good. All the bogons will end up renting all the way out there, allowing the western belconnon suburbs to renew.

Postalgeek 4:32 pm 08 Jul 10

cbrjoe said :

Actually, they are two different designs, and two different price points. The OP seems to have conveniently neglected to mention that the toilet in question is a second toilet, or “powder room”. The main being upstairs, which would have been shown on the wall in the Demo too…

wow.

Well, I can’t speak for others but knowing it is a second toilet, or “powder room”, opening onto the kitchen, makes it perfectly acceptable. I just hope drunken dinner guests can aim.

I think it’s safe to say the OP thought it wasn’t necessary to mention the second bathroom, at the risk of people thinking designers planned for the occupants to shower in the laundry tub or kitchen sink. On the other hand, given the crap standard of the design…

Lazy I 4:16 pm 08 Jul 10

cbrjoe said :

Lazy I said :

Interesting that the plan in the terrace you link to has been modified so the Laundry creates a buffer to the kitchen.. wonder if all of them were changed.

Actually, they are two different designs, and two different price points. The OP seems to have conveniently neglected to mention that the toilet in question is a second toilet, or “powder room”. The main being upstairs, which would have been shown on the wall in the Demo too…

Regardless, for the $280,000 that was being asked for them last year I think it’s a bargain, bigger than a 1br or even some 2br units and you get some “land”.

There seems to be alot of hate regarding the crace terraces recently, have these people actually had a look at the demo village? And compared it to the other offerings in McGreggor / Bonner / Casey?

The linked apartment actually has 3 toilets.. which seems a little excessive for a 2 bedroom + study… I think i’d prefer guests having to walk up a flight of stairs than having an awkward feature in the kitchen.

I have actually checked out the Crace demo village and thought there were some good quality homes there compared to the alternatives, but the land sizes are a real problem.

I also find that the use of rendered blue board for the exterior of new homes is a little scary, interested to see how well it holds up compared to existing brick veneer homes in a couple of decades.

Do agree about $280,000 being a good price for something like this.. especially if owners manage to connect with a $400+ weekly rental income.

cbrjoe 3:54 pm 08 Jul 10

Lazy I said :

Interesting that the plan in the terrace you link to has been modified so the Laundry creates a buffer to the kitchen.. wonder if all of them were changed.

Actually, they are two different designs, and two different price points. The OP seems to have conveniently neglected to mention that the toilet in question is a second toilet, or “powder room”. The main being upstairs, which would have been shown on the wall in the Demo too…

Regardless, for the $280,000 that was being asked for them last year I think it’s a bargain, bigger than a 1br or even some 2br units and you get some “land”.

There seems to be alot of hate regarding the crace terraces recently, have these people actually had a look at the demo village? And compared it to the other offerings in McGreggor / Bonner / Casey?

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