Dog’s On Leads

tylersmayhem 21 January 2009 147

From reading comments on my first post of the day [yesterday] on this topic (http://the-riotact.com/?p=10462#comment-171689), I thought I’ll go ahead and do so.  Both posts have related to dogs, and I don’t want to come across as an anti-dog person.  On the contrary, in fact I love dogs, but have certain expectations of owners, and from myself when I get another one.

I can’t believe I’m admitting this, but I am not actually cycling to work on cycle paths instead of cycle lanes.  I had one too many close calls with f**kwit drivers recently, and the extra 15 minutes commute uphill seems worth it.  Despite the crap upkeep of cycle lanes, the mindless planning and lack of signage – I’m prepared to just get on with it.  What I am finding hard to stomach are the dog owners who think it’s fine to walk their dogs on a cycle way…off a leash.  Using this morning as an example, I came across around 8 owners walking their dog, and only one dog was on a leash.  This wouldn’t prestest any issues with me if the following things happen time after time:

While half of the dogs were well behaved, I was chased by a cattle dog while the owner shouted at the dog (this is probably the prime example of an idiot who knows their dog will do this, and will keep putting it and cyclists in the situation until the dog learns not to in the meantime learns – d**khead).  Nothing like hearing a dog owner franticly yelling “LOOK OUT” to a cyclist, and “STOP IT, COME BACK” to a border collie while it sprints behind you nipping at your wheels and feet.  While this will cause a chuckle out of many of you, and me while wrinting this – it’s still pretty dangerous and unacceptable.  There was also two occasions where owners heard my bell and saw me coming – and made no attempt to control their dog.  In both cases the dogs wandered straight in front of me.  I narrowly missed one, and slammed on the breaks to avoid hitting the other.  One of the kind owners told me how much of a **kwit they thought I was.  Interesting that how I’m happy to share cycleways with pedestrans and their dogs, but I’M the f**kwit when they fail to control their animals on the CYCLEway.  Perhaps they need DOGways?!

Anyone else having similar gripes.  I can just see me hitting a dog, and being held responsible to pay for vet costs etc etc.


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zig zig 5:56 pm 23 Jan 09

miz said :

Those maps cannot be correct! They say Gilmore primary and Chisholm shops are ok to have a dog off leash! I don’t think so.

I think you are reading the map incorrectly.

Chisholm shops is clearly an on-leash area as is Gilmore primary although the oval nearby isn’t.

miz miz 5:49 pm 23 Jan 09

Those maps cannot be correct! They say Gilmore primary and Chisholm shops are ok to have a dog off leash! I don’t think so.

hax hax 4:28 pm 23 Jan 09

The Brad said :

Hax,
I think you misread a lot of posts.

When I’m legally driving/cycling/walking, I have the right to share (this path with you, please show the same courtesy).

Yes, that was my underlying point. (just read it again and replace the I’s with You’s)
If only people were courteous and showed common sense! (probably not going to happen)

There’s already too many rules and regulations for practically everything, we don’t need more rules and bans on day-to-day activities, otherwise what is freedom?

johnboy johnboy 1:17 pm 23 Jan 09

Brad is back into moderation, Zig goes in for the first time.

Anyone else feel like complaining?

zig zig 1:15 pm 23 Jan 09

The Brad said :

Looks like moderation is a thing of the past now.

Clearly given all the personal attacks that are going on.

The Brad The Brad 12:47 pm 23 Jan 09

Looks like moderation is a thing of the past now.

Tibbs Tibbs 12:47 pm 23 Jan 09

I have problems with dogs everyday on Canberra’s paths, both cycling and as a jogger. I don’t feel I own the paths when I’m on them, I move well off the path to get past others.

Every day a dog will either run at me, chase me, bark at me, jump on me or snap at me as I go past, and often the owner is right there with it.

It’s a particular problem in the off-leash area in Evatt, which also happens to be between two schools. I wonder how many school kids feel harassed by the dogs in this off-leash area on their way to and from school? Why not only have off-leash areas well away from areas where people are likely to feel harrassed by dogs?

Mr_Shab Mr_Shab 12:47 pm 23 Jan 09

Take a pill zig. The OP’s post was about out-of-control dogs of cyclepaths and their d1ckhead owners. I’d barely notice a well controlled dog off it’s lead, or a dog walking calmly on a lead on a cyclepath. Anyone with a modicum of sense would just slow down to go around. I’m pretty sure that’s what the OP was getting at. You’ve grabbed your preconcieved notion of all cyclists as road-hogging blowhards and gone charging in.

A very small (but unfortunately highly visible) minority of cyclists make a bad name for all the others. Don’t judge everyone on a treadly on the actions of the pig-headed lycra brigade.

zig zig 12:36 pm 23 Jan 09

Deckard said :

*snore* Riot Act needs an ignore button.

Nah reveal name/address and burn their house down button would be better. 😛

Deckard Deckard 12:35 pm 23 Jan 09

*snore* Riot Act needs an ignore button.

zig zig 12:24 pm 23 Jan 09

Mr_Shab said :

Jeebus zig. You need a hobby that leaves you less pent up and aggro. Can the boxing and take up needlepoint.

There’s plenty of bikepath to go around, folks. Just like car drivers, a small number of cyclists are prone to high-visibility displays of arsehattery, but the majority just move quietly along without bothering anyone. I would suggest that most people’s problems with cyclists are self-generated and not really all that valid. Having to slow down for a cyclist going through a green lane shouldn’t disrupt the traffic if you’re travelling at a safe speed and not tailgating.

I do about 100km a week on (offroad) cyclepaths that pass through off-lead areas and don’t actually encounter many off-lead dogs. Their owners have the good sense to keep them off the paths (doggy gets to gambol in the grass, owner gets some exercise, cyclist goes past and no-one’s feelings are hurt). Some dog-walkers keep to the paths, but posess the good sense to keep their dogs on a lead and to their left (rather like one would keep their dog on a lead when walking right next to a road). I’ve only ever had problems where a person had a poorly controlled dog that wanted to chase me and wouldn’t respond to a call; or had a dog on a lead that was careening spastically all over the bikepath. That behaviour is every bit as inconsiderate as not slowing your bike down when going past a pedestrian.

In the words of Rodney King…(etc)

Thats exactly why this pathetic article and all the whiny posts about unrestrained dogs got me so fired up. It just happens to be a cyclist complaining about things AGAIN…not a jogger, fellow dog walker or anyone else.

Not to mention that tylersmayhem has done two stories which are clearly anti-dog so it seems he has an axe to grind.

Mr_Shab Mr_Shab 11:28 am 23 Jan 09

Jeebus zig. You need a hobby that leaves you less pent up and aggro. Can the boxing and take up needlepoint.

There’s plenty of bikepath to go around, folks. Just like car drivers, a small number of cyclists are prone to high-visibility displays of arsehattery, but the majority just move quietly along without bothering anyone. I would suggest that most people’s problems with cyclists are self-generated and not really all that valid. Having to slow down for a cyclist going through a green lane shouldn’t disrupt the traffic if you’re travelling at a safe speed and not tailgating.

I do about 100km a week on (offroad) cyclepaths that pass through off-lead areas and don’t actually encounter many off-lead dogs. Their owners have the good sense to keep them off the paths (doggy gets to gambol in the grass, owner gets some exercise, cyclist goes past and no-one’s feelings are hurt). Some dog-walkers keep to the paths, but posess the good sense to keep their dogs on a lead and to their left (rather like one would keep their dog on a lead when walking right next to a road). I’ve only ever had problems where a person had a poorly controlled dog that wanted to chase me and wouldn’t respond to a call; or had a dog on a lead that was careening spastically all over the bikepath. That behaviour is every bit as inconsiderate as not slowing your bike down when going past a pedestrian.

In the words of Rodney King…(etc)

zig zig 11:21 am 23 Jan 09

Danman said :

Zig – For the record, hitting things is already one of my sporting activities, it’s called Boxing.

I knew by the sounds of your posts that you enjoyed getting punched around the ring

How lame, did you think of that joke all by yourself? lol

Danman Danman 10:11 am 23 Jan 09

Zig – For the record, hitting things is already one of my sporting activities, it’s called Boxing.

I knew by the sounds of your posts that you enjoyed getting punched around the ring

Kramer Kramer 10:02 am 23 Jan 09

zig said :

Kramer – Just because it is legal by the book doesn’t mean it doesn’t annoy the piss out of drivers in peak hour traffic….

Learn to share.

There will be another 200 comments on this post if we start talking about the things that “annoy the piss of of drivers in peak hour traffic”.

Sharing is what this is all about (and virtually every other thread to do with cycling, motorbikes, cars, or pedestrians). A select number of people are not behaving in a manner which allows a public facility to be shared equally by all.

zig zig 11:43 pm 22 Jan 09

Timberwolf65 said :

Sell you bike and buy a dog…problem solved!

End of post.

hehe I want to buy a horse now just so I can ride on cycle paths leaving nice big horse turds everywhere for the cyclists.

Timberwolf65 Timberwolf65 11:27 pm 22 Jan 09

Sell you bike and buy a dog…problem solved!

End of post.

Deckard Deckard 11:23 pm 22 Jan 09

zig said :

southeeplace – Thanks for your rather condescending and useless post. It’s pretty typical of the useless rant that pervades this wonderful blog. For the record, hitting things is already one of my sporting activities, it’s called Boxing.

I think you’ve just answered everyones question.

zig zig 11:14 pm 22 Jan 09

southeeplace – Thanks for your rather condescending and useless post. It’s pretty typical of the useless rant that pervades this wonderful blog. For the record, hitting things is already one of my sporting activities, it’s called Boxing.

justbands justbands 3:23 pm 22 Jan 09

She was cute AND offered her details & you neglected to take them?? I’ve changed my mind, cyclists really are crazy! 😉

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