European Wasps Revisitied

Skidbladnir 14 January 2008 68

European wasp nest attached to roof awning

In the thread “European Wasp nest removal?”, only a few of us believed European Wasps liked to live in houses.
We gave the following advice:
1) Destroy by Flame: using either WD40, lighter fluid, or using well-aimed cans of burning Mortein for self defence.
2) The Aliens Alternative (Step 1: Acquire an orbital platform with tactical nuclear capability, Step 2: Nuke!, Step 3: Clean up any fallout)
3) Use Harsh Chemicals: find a professional in the yellow pages, and get them destroyed.

The ABC have put out an article (hello to any ABC employees), suggesting:
1) using any household-grade insect spray has been labelled “suicidal” as literally thousands of wasps will emerge from the nest and try to kill you.
2) apparently ‘most’ of this years nests have been found in wall cavities of homes.

The ABC also say to contact a professional first in all cases.
Damn communist pansies.

According to this Australian Museum Online Factsheet, in the space of a single summer, one nest would normally have 3000 workers and multiple queens, dissolve in autumn rains, leaving the workers and drones to be killed off in the cold, while the queens would hibernate.
But due to the Australian climate, we get large supernests, occasionally resulting in nests with 100,000 or more workers, which grow over multiple seasons.

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68 Responses to European Wasps Revisitied
SheepGroper SheepGroper 8:10 pm 10 Oct 08

That’s awesome, if only it was possible to train them to attack car thieves.

Skidbladnir Skidbladnir 4:46 pm 10 Oct 08

As a stunning example of a multiple-season European wasps nest, there’s this one which I just had sent to me.

What we call European wasps, they call yellowjackets.

Thumper Thumper 12:32 pm 29 Jan 08

Yeah… that too 😉

Skidbladnir Skidbladnir 12:31 pm 29 Jan 08

Anything sucking all oxygen out of the atmosphere would wipe life off the face of the planet (its very big, you see).
Maybe you mean the local area\vicinity?

Thumper Thumper 11:30 am 29 Jan 08

Napalm, as used in Vietnam, apart from toasting people into crispy critters, also sucks all oxygen out of the atmosphere therefore people also suffocate to death.

Nasty stuff, but very effective.

Skidbladnir Skidbladnir 11:22 am 29 Jan 08

Dang, just re-reading that, I left out the word “non-fire” before blanket.

Unless its a proper heavy fire-blanket, homemade napalm can burn through most fibrous things by wonder of the gel flowing through and around the fibres.

I’d advise against trying water, as the petrol added can still dissociate and float while burning.

It is bad to mess around with homemade napalm as it can result in fifth degree burns (down into the muscle).

The military-grade white-phosphorous bearing napalm (in cases where you don’t die instantly from the all-over (“unconventional Vietnamese cooking fuel”, according to my old man) burning, or later of phosphorous poisoning)) it causes sixth degree burns, which cannot be extinguished by fireblanket, water, or other means.

Mælinar Mælinar 11:07 am 29 Jan 08

I suggest that this might be an appropriate time for one of our recognised fireys to lay a few quantifiable ground rules about fire here.

Last time I checked, following the pyramid of fire example (oxygen, fuel, heat) a blanket was still an approved method of removing/restricting oxygen by smothering the fire.

Ingee or anybody – care to give some appropriate advice ?

I am aware we are talking about lighting home-made napalm derivatives, and agree there is a layer of absurdity to this thread.

Skidbladnir Skidbladnir 10:30 am 29 Jan 08

@ ant re: homemade napalm

The styrofoam (polystyrene) melts into a gel when it comes in contact with the petrol (and benzene), and a bit of petrol goes a very long way.
You’d be suprised at just how much polystyrene you end up using with even a small amount of fuel.
The petrol suspends in the gel to make it sticky enough to apply to things.

It burns at several hundred (maybe a thousand?) degrees C for minutes (rather than the liquid burning very hot for several seconds, or gas mixtures exploding instantly), is runny and flows while burning, and isn’t something you want to mess around with without proper reason or supervision.

Covering a wasps nest in napalm and then setting fire to it will release many burning fireballs formerly known as wasps, and if they hit\land on you, then you are covered in burning gel which cannot wipe away.

Also, blanket = bad idea.

Skidbladnir Skidbladnir 10:03 am 29 Jan 08

@Sands re: spiders and bugs and other crawling things.

While true that redback males don’t have the red stripe, they have a white patch on their backside, are half the size of the females, and brown.

If you can store pictures of the wasps nests and want to post them, you can only put up a link to the pictures, rather than embed them in your replies.
If you just pastet he link into your reply it auto links it, or if you want to be stylish and use html, try <a href = "location of picture">Text to use as the link</a>

But as my backyard insect population is in a constant state of anarchic flux, the predatory bugs tend to keep eachother in check (and when they get out of comfortable limits I just spray them with the most powerful insecticide I can find at Bunnings.
So I can’t recommend a professional to you, other than suggest the yellowpages.

Thumper Thumper 8:38 pm 28 Jan 08

Hehe, talk about instant, or delayed, karma.

This afternoon, whilst minding my own business, I was stung on the back of the neck by a paper wasp and geez did it hurt!

And still does….

Needless to say the nest no longer exists!

el ......VNBerlinaV8 el ......VNBerlinaV8 2:54 pm 28 Jan 08

OK, I *think* I know what’s happened.

Any comment using html tags hits the moderation queue. The commenter can see the comment, but no one else can until it’s been approved by an admin.

I can now see your comments (with the link) at 11:13, 13:01 and 13:03…

I guess WordPress keeps the timestamp of the original comment regardless of the delay between posting and approval.

el ......VNBerlinaV8 el ......VNBerlinaV8 2:44 pm 28 Jan 08
pierce pierce 2:37 pm 28 Jan 08

(and choose the wasps option)

pierce pierce 2:35 pm 28 Jan 08

Ok well this is just freakin weird – nothing shows up in the new comments box any time I post this link either.

(Strictly speaking, I’m using Flock 0.7.14 but it’s an FF derivative so I didn’t think it would make a difference. Checked it in FF and it doesn’t work there. Sorry)

When I view RA with Flock, I have extra comments with the link at 11.13am, 1.01pm and 1.03pm.

If you can still be bothered, go to and plug in the url of this post.

el ......VNBerlinaV8 el ......VNBerlinaV8 2:08 pm 28 Jan 08

And upon looking at the page source, there is no HTML code to suggest anything happens around the word ‘here’, aside from a [/p] tag to close the comment.

el ......VNBerlinaV8 el ......VNBerlinaV8 2:05 pm 28 Jan 08

IE? I already use Firefox.

The link is not visible in Firefox 3 beta, Firefox, Safari 3.0.4 or Opera 9.21.3678.

Care to post it again so I can see what you’re actually talking about? 🙂

pierce pierce 1:06 pm 28 Jan 08

IE seems to be blocking it VN – try Firefox.

pierce pierce 1:01 pm 28 Jan 08

How strange – just checked it in IE and the second post I submitted – which said “Damn it – stupid html. Try here” only appears in Firefox. Never seen that before.

Third time is the charm.

Wasps and RA

el ......VNBerlinaV8 el ......VNBerlinaV8 12:17 pm 28 Jan 08

Like, there’s no link anywhere…dood.

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