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Four killed in Canberra police chase

jennybel75 6 April 2010 484

[First filed: Mar 21, 2010 @ 9:42]

[Edtheres more to this story than most have heard, we’re sure more will come out in the following days. The RiotACT has heard some rumors about the driver and where he was before the chase, who the occupants of the second car were and what the outcomes of this incident for the police and on certain parts of Canberra community will be. We’ll let you know more when able.]

The SMH is reporting that 4 people were killed on the Monaro highway last night after a car which was involved in a police chase hit another car carring 2 adults and a child. All occupants of the car that was hit died and the driver of the car being pursued also died and the female passanger is currently in Canberra hospital.

Very, very sad news.

[Ed – UrbanAdventure.org also sent in the below story]

Four Killed in Canberra Police chase

I was saddened to read the news that four people were killed in a car accident in Canberra as result of a car being chased by police colliding with another car. It appears that the car was chased from Queanbeyan into the ACT and collided with another car at the intersection of Canberra Ave and the Monaro Highway off ramp in Narrabundah. Three innocent victims in the second car, two adults and a baby were killed as well as the driver of the chased car. Very sad indeed.

I’m not going to discuss the rights or wrongs of police chases. I have to wonder though at the mentality of those that seek to escape from the police in such a way. The news is full of stories of the deadly ends to such police chases. I mean police have special training to drive at high speed (well I hope they do), they have radios and other police cars. They have helicopters, computers, a whole bunch of people who’s sole job in life is to catch criminals.

What makes some one think “I can outrun these people?” or “I can get away from this?” as adverse to “Oh shit this will cost me a fine or maybe my licence?” A fine can be costly yes, but usually it is a few hundred dollars and I have read that you can arrange to pay it off. Even on my next to non existent income I’d rather pay a fine than risk my, and some one else’s life. I could not imagine the guilt and grief caused by endangering some one’s life or indeed killing them.

What makes people do this? What can be done to prevent it?

I figure one option is to have police call off the chase once a number plate is recorded. Then look the driver up on a database, get their phone number and ring them (or their parents) in an effort to get them to slow down and give them the opportunity to turn themselves in. I don’t know if that would work. But it would be better than these needless deaths.


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Pommy bastard Pommy bastard 5:37 pm 08 Mar 11

Having now seen the image of him which accompanies that report, I have to say I hadn’t realised what a handsome intelligent looking chap he was.

Ok, I’ll stop there…

lobster lobster 4:45 pm 08 Mar 11

BerraBoy68 said :

Ian said :

Deadmandrinking said :

No matter what the person involved has done, releasing sensitive information (i.e. dying words – stuff that hasn’t been reported in the media) is still a breach of the trust people involved in emergency services work are given.

I actually agree with you on this. I really don’t think gossiping about experiences at accident scenes is something emergency workers should be doing. Very bad form in my opinion.

At the risk of resurrecting a year old thread (better resurrecting the thread than Mully), now that police have confirmed during the Coronial inquiry that Mully was abusive to all and sundry following his crash, had to be ‘chemically subdued’ and didn’t ask about the welfare of any of his victims, the comments made by Ari last year have passed from being gossip to fact. I continue to have no sympathy for mully. Appears he actually was a self-absorbed arse-clown to the very end.

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/news/local/news/general/killer-driver-was-drunk/2096482.aspx?storypage=0

I was about to do the same thing.
I thought there would already be a new thread on here about this.

BerraBoy68 BerraBoy68 4:05 pm 08 Mar 11

Ian said :

Deadmandrinking said :

No matter what the person involved has done, releasing sensitive information (i.e. dying words – stuff that hasn’t been reported in the media) is still a breach of the trust people involved in emergency services work are given.

I actually agree with you on this. I really don’t think gossiping about experiences at accident scenes is something emergency workers should be doing. Very bad form in my opinion.

At the risk of resurrecting a year old thread (better resurrecting the thread than Mully), now that police have confirmed during the Coronial inquiry that Mully was abusive to all and sundry following his crash, had to be ‘chemically subdued’ and didn’t ask about the welfare of any of his victims, the comments made by Ari last year have passed from being gossip to fact. I continue to have no sympathy for mully. Appears he actually was a self-absorbed arse-clown to the very end.

Holden Caulfield Holden Caulfield 11:35 am 19 Apr 10

Interesting to see the AFP had a brief car chase a few days ago. The male driver had three others in the car, including an adult female and two kids. Thankfully this chase ended with the driver chose to stop and surrender. You’d have to think they were influenced by recent events.

http://www.afp.gov.au/media_releases/act/2010/man_attempts_to_flee_police_with_children_in_car.html

sloppery sloppery 8:56 am 19 Apr 10

alasol said :

you are all sick………………..These were all human beings………………they had people who loved and cared about them. PARENTS aren’t able to FORCE life styles……………

Parents can set a good example, though, and guide and discipline children so they grow up with some respect for the law and for other people.

alasol alasol 11:33 pm 18 Apr 10

you are all sick………………..These were all human beings………………they had people who loved and cared about them. PARENTS aren’t able to FORCE life styles……………

imarty imarty 10:50 pm 09 Apr 10

People believe what they want to believe to be true and on the credibility that I believe Clown Killer, Ari et al have, I believe what they recount to be true.
Does that mean my mind is infantile?

Factual information does not come into it in this situation IMO as the evidence of the behaviour of the dead FW offender and single cause of death of 4 lives is out there for all to see.

Spideydog Spideydog 7:58 pm 09 Apr 10

Deadmandrinking said :

It would take an infantile mind to believe that sort of hearsay, Spideydog.

Why? There are plenty of people that know him from both sides of “socioeconomic” fence and are quite capable of making their own minds up, to believe or not to believe. Those that didn’t know him in any manner, should be adult enough to give little weight to said “hearsay” !!! The media is full if rumour and hearsay, I don’t see this as being any different.

sloppery sloppery 4:49 pm 09 Apr 10

Deadmandrinking said :

It would take an infantile mind to believe that sort of hearsay, Spideydog. Ari may trust the person, I don’t know them, nor do a good deal of people who read it. ‘Grown ups’ rely on factual information to make up their minds.

If you don’t believe it, say so. Dispute it. The source is not going to magically appear because you want to.

preacher preacher 4:21 pm 09 Apr 10

In defense of Mully (why I am doing that is beyond me), if he said those words it could have been caused by stress and pain. He had just been in a major car crash, and was dying.

I wouldn’t be shocked if anyone said “Get me out of here”, then didn’t really listen to what was being said, and blurted out in pain and stress “I don’t care, get me free”.

Stress makes you act funny sometimes.

Then again, he was a bit of a $#@!.

Deadmandrinking Deadmandrinking 3:58 pm 09 Apr 10

It would take an infantile mind to believe that sort of hearsay, Spideydog. Ari may trust the person, I don’t know them, nor do a good deal of people who read it. ‘Grown ups’ rely on factual information to make up their minds.

Jim Jones Jim Jones 3:55 pm 09 Apr 10

Clown Killer said :

I’m not even interested in whether or not DMD believes it happened or not – if he wants to be an apologist patsy for Williams and his despicable behaviour then so be it.

Who’s being an apologist for Williams? Where?

Spideydog Spideydog 3:44 pm 09 Apr 10

johnboy said :

You know DMD, just because you stamp your tiny feet doesn’t mean grown ups have to reveal their sources.

I agree.

Thats why “grown up” people can make up their own minds if the information is credible or not.

I am sure there are plenty of people that have a varied knowledge of “Mully” and are able to make more informed opinions on the credibility of that information.

I have an opinion in regard to that, I just choose not to air it on a public forum.

Deadmandrinking Deadmandrinking 2:55 pm 09 Apr 10

Also, I’m not a pube.

Deadmandrinking Deadmandrinking 2:44 pm 09 Apr 10

johnboy said :

You know DMD, just because you stamp your tiny feet doesn’t mean grown ups have to reveal their sources.

They don’t have to, regardless of the size of my feet. It’s just not credible if he doesn’t. If Riot-act wants a reputation for misinformation, this is the way to go about it.

TAD said :

If I can throw in my anonymous 2c.

The actions of JW recounted are in line with my knowledge. The actual words not so.

Interesting.

Cheers Jim, by the way.

Clown Killer Clown Killer 2:24 pm 09 Apr 10

Or he just doesn’t feel he has to back up his statement to a pimple face pube?

That’s about the sum of it buzz. They guys I know provided me with a version of events that was remarkable similar to the one Ari describes. I’ve known these people for a long time, and I’m prepared to accept what they say on face value.

I’m not even interested in whether or not DMD believes it happened or not – if he wants to be an apologist patsy for Williams and his despicable behaviour then so be it.

Jim Jones Jim Jones 2:20 pm 09 Apr 10

sloppery said :

Jim Jones said :

What precisely have you “offered”, sloppery?

Vitriol, perhaps? Impotent internet hissy fits, maybe? Certainly a large serving of pointless, misdirected rage, at very least.

I’ve offered my opinion. I expect it to be taken as such. If you don’t agree, great – tell me why.

Oh, and I’ve also trolled you a few times, because you’re an idiot.

And you don’t think that DMD was offering his opinion?

Nice job on the name-calling; very well done. I’m really impressed. You really showed me who’s boss, didn’t you?

TAD TAD 2:12 pm 09 Apr 10

If I can throw in my anonymous 2c.

The actions of JW recounted are in line with my knowledge. The actual words not so.

buzz819 buzz819 1:57 pm 09 Apr 10

Deadmandrinking said :

Ari said :

Hey Clown Killer, you do know you shouldn’t be talking to people who really know what went on.

I’ve been told by a logical genius on this site that it has the potential to disrupt the very fabric of our society, maybe even space and time.

If Canberra gets sucked into a black hole, it will be your fault 😉

Rightio, it’s apparent that you are not willing to back up your statement. This either means:

– You know that if you named the guy, he’d get in trouble, which means you know you did the wrong thing by your friend.

– You made it up to seem credible, and clown-killer followed suit.

Or he just doesn’t feel he has to back up his statement to a pimple face pube?

johnboy johnboy 1:57 pm 09 Apr 10

You know DMD, just because you stamp your tiny feet doesn’t mean grown ups have to reveal their sources.

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