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Kings Highway closed at Pooh Corner following massive landslide

By johnboy 20 April 2012 58

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The NSW RTA is showing the Kings Highway closed at Pooh Corner in both directions due to a landslide.

They advise taking the Illawarra or Snowy Mountains Highways as alternative if you’re heading to the coast this weekend.

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UPDATE: 20/04/12 14:07: The Bay Post reports the road will be closed for some time:

Both lanes of the Kings Highway are completely blocked with rubble and trees after a huge landslide on the Clyde Mountain.
Police are advising only Nelligen residents should use the Kings Highway as it is expected the highway will be closed for some time.

It is believed the cliff landslide occurred at about 1.30pm this afternoon, about 400m west of Pooh Bear corner.

It is not known at this stage if anyone is injured or any vehicles are trapped amongst the rubble, but police have inspected the site and say there are no obvious signs anyone is trapped.

[Photo posted to Facebook by Douglas J Robinson]

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poetix 10:33 pm 23 Apr 12

Geostorm said :

Does anyone know is the Oallen Crossing that crosses the Shoalhaven river from Tarago to Nerriga is flooded? Just curious if my little car will still make it. I enjoy that way, its quite scenic and there’s only a little bit of unsealed road.

It’s all fine. Our car may be a bit bigger by the sound of things, but I don’t think you’ll have any problems with water. (We drove that way this afternoon, so if there are massive rains, you’ll have to check again.) It is a very beautiful road, so in a way the landslide did us a favour, making us try this road on the way back, and the Araluen road on the way down.

Geostorm 10:01 pm 23 Apr 12

Does anyone know is the Oallen Crossing that crosses the Shoalhaven river from Tarago to Nerriga is flooded? Just curious if my little car will still make it. I enjoy that way, its quite scenic and there’s only a little bit of unsealed road.

HenryBG 5:50 pm 23 Apr 12

p1 said :

HenryBG said :

thatsnotme said :

I don’t think the ‘lighting never hits the same spot twice’ rule applies here – the piece of land that guy’s standing underneath is now weaker than it was before.
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Nope. It is now more stable. A considerable amount of mass which was either adjacent to or above it is now below it.

Sure, he is less likely to be buried under 100 tonne of rock. But the one cricket ball sized one is still more likely to bounce down and scone his noggin there, then on any other randomly selected metre of road in NSW that day, in my opinion.

The whole area has just been subjected to the considerable vibration caused by the downward motion of several hundred tonnes of material. Any material that *was* in a precarious state was brought down by that vibration, making your cricket-ball scenario *less* likely the closer you get to the epicentre of the landslide.

Of course, when they start trying to move it all off the road, they create new instability, but until they do that, one of the most stable parts of the entire descent is at the location of the latest gravity-assisted adjustment.

I have great issues with bureaucratic decision-making that is informed by the same kind of thought-processes. It’s very common.
Even trained professionals like GPs have been found to be responsible – on average – for a 50% rate of non-evidence-based opinions, so I don’t hold out great hope for bureaucrats to become sensible any time soon, not until we get our technocratic revolution, anyway.

poetix 5:27 pm 23 Apr 12

Helpful driving hints from a real bush expert: If you are looking for the road to Nerriga to come back to Canberra, and your GPS says turn left several kilometres before where you thought you should turn, and you’re suspicious, but you think, oh well, who am I to argue with a machine with an American accent, well, you will find yourself on a fire-trail, surrounded by strange black wallabies and in danger of breaking an axle. There will be lots of clay and small creeks across the road. You will begin to think of Ivan Milat and shallow graves.

Ignore your GPS! Look for Turpentine Road with your Own Eyes! Only years of wearing pastel striped shirts and voting National will usually bring you to this level of bush-craft.

p1 4:36 pm 23 Apr 12

HenryBG said :

thatsnotme said :

I don’t think the ‘lighting never hits the same spot twice’ rule applies here – the piece of land that guy’s standing underneath is now weaker than it was before.
.

Nope. It is now more stable. A considerable amount of mass which was either adjacent to or above it is now below it.

Sure, he is less likely to be buried under 100 tonne of rock. But the one cricket ball sized one is still more likely to bounce down and scone his noggin there, then on any other randomly selected metre of road in NSW that day, in my opinion.

HenryBG 4:20 pm 23 Apr 12

thatsnotme said :

I don’t think the ‘lighting never hits the same spot twice’ rule applies here – the piece of land that guy’s standing underneath is now weaker than it was before.
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Nope. It is now more stable. A considerable amount of mass which was either adjacent to or above it is now below it.

AAMC 3:40 pm 23 Apr 12

poetix said :

Araluen Road is able to be driven in a rear wheel drive car. Rough, wet and scary, and Mr Poetix nearly soiled himself, but it can be done. Do not try it at night though.

It takes forever, too.

i have done Araluen road, in a 4wd, front wheel drive corrolla and a bicycle….easily passable if it is dry

thatsnotme 5:52 pm 22 Apr 12

HenryBG said :

Cheap said :

Doesn’t seem very safe to stand right next to the landslide

Not very logical.
This unstable bit of ground has found a new and more stable configuration. By definition, this spot is safer than many other spots with instability not yet sufficient to trigger a slide.
Sadly, we see your sort of logic employed all the time by bureaucratic decision-makers.

The “shut the gate after the horse has bolted” cliche was invented to describe this (fairly dim) approach to risk management.

Really? There’s no chance that the bit of slope right next to the part that hasn’t slipped suddenly not being there any more would cause that stable part to be more prone to slipping?

I don’t think the ‘lighting never hits the same spot twice’ rule applies here – the piece of land that guy’s standing underneath is now weaker than it was before.

If this guy wanted to stand in a safe spot, he’d be better off standing in the branches of the trees already on the road.

Pork Hunt 5:04 pm 22 Apr 12

HenryBG said :

goggles13 said :

SnapperJack said :

The good thing about this is thinking about all those pubes who took flexidays and leave on Monday and Tuesday hoping to have an extended long weekend at the coast.

Don’tcha just love the RTA saying it will take three days to reopen the highway? Maybe the shinybums will take more leave on Thursday and Friday. Perhaps they should stay on holiday permanently. Nobody will notice the difference.

is it really necessary to have a dig at public servants?
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Yes.

And next time he’s thrown in a cell in Bali after a drunken spat with a member of the local constabulary, he will have another dig at how long it takes the public servants at DFAT to save his bacon.

What manner of gibberish is that last para please HBG? The bloke in the photo?

dvaey 4:15 pm 22 Apr 12

goggles13 said :

is it really necessary to have a dig at public servants?

I suspect that people in the private sector may also turn a mid-week public holiday into a long weekend.

I suspect that many Canberrans who were down there for the school holidays (whether their parents are public or private servants) will be affected too. Looking at the general demographic of those who regularly travel down there, public servants are a fairly small portion.

The generic bogan with a 4wd and boat is more likely to be found, especially given that theyll get their centrelink pay early cos of the public holiday.

p1 3:33 pm 22 Apr 12

HenryBG said :

Cheap said :

Doesn’t seem very safe to stand right next to the landslide

Not very logical.
This unstable bit of ground has found a new and more stable configuration. By definition, this spot is safer than many other spots with instability not yet sufficient to trigger a slide.
Sadly, we see your sort of logic employed all the time by bureaucratic decision-makers.

The “shut the gate after the horse has bolted” cliche was invented to describe this (fairly dim) approach to risk management.

Yes, because the landslides in that part of the country are very efficient, with every possible rock having fallen to its lowest possible energy state at the time of the slide. There is zero chance of a small rock rolling down and hitting he guy in the head.

HenryBG 2:07 pm 22 Apr 12

goggles13 said :

SnapperJack said :

The good thing about this is thinking about all those pubes who took flexidays and leave on Monday and Tuesday hoping to have an extended long weekend at the coast.

Don’tcha just love the RTA saying it will take three days to reopen the highway? Maybe the shinybums will take more leave on Thursday and Friday. Perhaps they should stay on holiday permanently. Nobody will notice the difference.

is it really necessary to have a dig at public servants?
.

Yes.

And next time he’s thrown in a cell in Bali after a drunken spat with a member of the local constabulary, he will have another dig at how long it takes the public servants at DFAT to save his bacon.

goggles13 12:39 pm 22 Apr 12

SnapperJack said :

The good thing about this is thinking about all those pubes who took flexidays and leave on Monday and Tuesday hoping to have an extended long weekend at the coast.

Don’tcha just love the RTA saying it will take three days to reopen the highway? Maybe the shinybums will take more leave on Thursday and Friday. Perhaps they should stay on holiday permanently. Nobody will notice the difference.

is it really necessary to have a dig at public servants?

I suspect that people in the private sector may also turn a mid-week public holiday into a long weekend.

dvaey 11:05 am 22 Apr 12

IrishPete said :

Canberras Times now reporting that Aarluen Road is also closed in both directions:

I travelled up the Araluen Rd yesterday and it was fairly degraded. There were many places with water over the road and many big 4wds travelling way too fast for the conditions chewing up the road. Noticably, many of them had ACT plates. In a couple of areas the road had subsided, making it virtually impossible for one car to pass another as the road was barely wide enough.

There were also quite a number of ACT falcons pulling boats and trailers down the road, which no doubt would have been fun when they came across another vehicle in the unpassable areas and no doubt contributed to the road being closed.

BiffLoman 9:43 am 22 Apr 12

poetix said :

BiffLoman said :

I’ve always wondered whether Nelligen is pronounced with a hard or soft ‘g’. Many thanks.

It’s pronounced with a hard ‘g’. That’s how the locals in the Steampacket say it.

Thanks, poetix.

I-filed 9:41 am 22 Apr 12

Interesting that the landslip has cut off the road in that exact spot – because of course the Pooh Corner “grotto” is part of an underground tunnel that was to be blown up and block the Japanese if they headed up from the coast toward Canberra …

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