11 September 2024

Lee rejects Chief Minister's claim a stadium won't fit on the Acton Waterfront site

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An artist’s impression of the Canberra Liberals’ stadium proposal is indicative, says Opposition Leader Elizabeth Lee. Images: Canberra Liberals.

The stadium war has ignited the ACT election campaign, with both main party leaders trading blows over whether the Canberra Liberals’ Acton Waterfront proposal is achievable.

Chief Minister Andrew Barr came out on Wednesday (11 September) to claim that the Liberals’ proposal would not fit on the Acton Waterfront site even if it could be approved.

Mr Barr also said that the proposed Canberra Theatre redevelopment and the Northside Hospital project would have to be cut so the Liberals could pay for the stadium and its convention centre plans, both of which are to be built at the same time.

On Tuesday, Mr Barr said a stadium was not permitted on the Acton Waterfront site under the National Capital Plan and a host of planning restrictions also ruled it out. Any attempt to change the NCP would be a lengthy process, up to a decade long, if it could be changed at all.

On Wednesday, Mr Barr said the Liberals had, in effect, shrunk the stadium used in their imagery so it would fit on the site.

Mr Barr said an overlay of an actual 30,000-seat stadium in its full breadth on West Basin showed clearly that it jutted out into the lake.

He accused the Liberals of not doing their homework before submitting their proposal to voters.

“Why are you proposing a stadium for a site that does not allow a stadium? That does not fit a stadium?” Mr Barr said.

“And why haven’t you thought about car parking and moving 30,000 people to and from? That’s the point of feasibility studies and due diligence.

“When you’re proposing to spend nearly a billion dollars, you might want to have done some of that work before announcing it.”

But Opposition Leader Elizabeth Lee said a desperate Chief Minister was clutching at straws to denigrate the proposal.

Ms Lee said the Acton Waterfront site was 64,000 square metres (6.4 ha) in size, 30 per cent bigger than the Civic pool site and 40 per cent larger than the sites for the comparable Parramatta and Townsville stadiums.

“Any simple Google search and overlay of these stadiums over the site should give Andrew Barr what he needs,” Ms Lee said.

She added that the Liberals had looked at the Parramatta, Christchurch and Townsville facilities and all would fit comfortably on the site.

The original plot of land for the Townsville stadium was 17 ha, but in Christchurch, the site was just 6 ha.

Ms Lee laughed off the claim that the Liberals had shrunk their stadium image to make it fit.

“Clearly, it is an artist’s impression,” she said. “It’s a very good indication of what it is that we’re trying to build.”

Ms Lee said the facility would require parking, but there were multiple parking options within walking distance in the city and across the road in Commonwealth Park, as well as light rail stops nearby for those without cars.

“We’ll work with designers to make sure that it is something that is accessible for the capacity that it holds,” she said.

An overlay of CommBank Stadium in Parramatta on the Acton Waterfront site. Image: ACT Labor.

Mr Barr said it was fanciful of the Liberals to believe that the NCP could be changed in time for construction to begin in the first term of government.

“It will take a very long period of time, assuming that [the Commonwealth] is supportive, which I think is a very big assumption to make because something on that scale in that location, it’s very problematic for all of the other elements of the National Capital Plan that have been entrenched in legislation for nearly a century.

“So I find it hard to believe that that will just happen because Elizabeth Lee thinks it will. There’s actually a process. I know detail, due diligence, and feasibility are things that some people don’t want to hear about, but they are necessary for large-scale infrastructure projects.”

Ms Lee brushed off the planning issues, saying the Liberals had good relations with the National Capital Authority and would work with it to resolve any problems.

Federal Minister for Territories Kristy McBain told Region that the Federal Government had not seen any details of the proposal.

“This proposal has not been submitted to the NCA or the government; we have not seen any evidence of a detailed costing or a business case,” she said.

“It does not fit within the current National Capital Plan. However, it is difficult to provide more analysis when all we have seen is a photoshopped image.”

Ms Lee said the proposal was already proving popular with the community.

“We’ve had enormous positive feedback since we announced our plan, including from people coming from overseas saying this sounds really exciting and can you keep us updated,” she said.

On Tuesday, Ms Lee said the twin convention centre and stadium projects would require a reallocation of infrastructure funding but would not elaborate, in particular, on the fate of the Canberra Theatre redevelopment and the Northside Hospital, saying she would announce the Liberals’ infrastructure priorities closer to the election.

Mr Barr said these two projects were in the firing line if the Liberals’ convention centre and stadium plans on the proposed time frames were to be paid for.

“So they’re either going to add $1.5 billion to the infrastructure pipeline and presumably to the Territory’s borrowings, or they’re going to cut projects, and the theatre and the Northside Hospital add up combined to about $1.5 billion,” he said.

Mr Barr said the hospital and theatre projects had the highest priority for the government, now the Canberra Hospital’s Critical Services Building was open, followed by the stadium.

He said the theatre was the first cab off the rank because it was the ACT’s oldest piece of infrastructure, dating from 1968.

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The theatre also trumped the stadium because it would be in use far more than a stadium, even when it hosted concerts, with Mr Barr saying it would be a fantastic result to get 30 event nights a year plus day matches, whereas “there will be shows at the theatre hundreds of nights a year”.

“That’s why we’re in the middle of a tender process to procure an early contractor partner and will shortly be out in the market to build it.

“It’s really incumbent now on the Liberal Party, and indeed others, to say to the community, are you scrapping this project?

“Are you not going to proceed with the Northside Hospital?”

Labor remains committed to building a stadium at the Bruce precinct, with a completion date of 2033, or sooner.

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If you’ve been to the Melbourne and a lot of stadiums, people use Public Transport and walk to the games. No reason People can’t walk to parking in the Triangle or the City.

This is a stupid use of the lake front. No one is going to the footy to admire the scenery. There are loads of better places in Canberra and I don’t understand the obsession with building it near Civic.

ChrisinTurner3:01 pm 12 Sep 24

Having only the light rail to transport patrons, at a very high rate of one tram per minute, it will still take 150 minutes to clear the people away. Remember, the tram couldn’t cope with a concert at EPIC.

I’m not a Labour voter but I don’t think the site is ptractical. Parking. And the site next to the mailn nth sth road cortidor. Better a new stadium at Bruce. BUT, why waste so much money on “circuses’ when there are so many other very needy investment needs.

Whilst it would be cool to have a new stadium this location isn’t in keeping with the lakefront.

Also a quick Google Maps ruler suggests that it’s approximately 200 metres from the Commonweath Avenue/Parkes Way off ramp to where the waters edge now is and the current stadium at Bruce is about 230-240 metres wide.

There is also the lack of parking which has been mentioned.

Make the area surrounding Bruce stadium more inviting, run light rail to it and improve or replace that stadium if you must.

Whatever happens the stadium should be lower down the queue than the dragway that was promised a couple of decades ago.

You are dreaming if you think a dragway should take priority of a new stadium lol

Incidental Tourist10:38 am 12 Sep 24

There is hardly better way to maximise value of tram stage 2A.

Spot on. Why else would people be hoping off at this stop if Floriade isn’t on

You’ve got to laugh when large portions of Andrew Barr’s own arguments apply equally to his own projects like light rail. Who would’ve ever thought that we’d see Andrew Barr arguing against the feasibility and affordability of his own capital works program.

The hypocrisy from a sitting government would be galling if it wasn’t so predictable.

Yep he’s finally working against a semi competent opposition and he doesn’t know what to do!

I know people think the Libs are incompetent (the thought may have crossed my mind once or twice) but surely for a major policy announcement we can assume they’ve run the measuring tape right?

City Hill! for a circular stadium! It’s ridiculous but would be terrific.

I think one stadium is enough and we already have one at Bruce. How about a hospital for Gungahlin?

Shouldn’t Tuggeranong get a hospital before Gungahlin?

Barr is clutching at straws here, the image he has provided looks comically exaggerated! He’s just jealous the Liberals have a better idea than he does for once

@D. Jack That image is so ridiculous I would be embarrassed if I was ACT Labor putting that out. No wonder they are a basket case of a government they can’t even photoshop properly

Andrew Cooke1:00 pm 12 Sep 24

it’s actually pretty close if you scale from google maps. The renders by the Liberals have shrunk an existing image to fit a stadium on the site. If you look at the tunnel to the changerooms it would maybe fit a small child, or ant.

Andrew Cooke,
even taking that at face value, the ALP image clearly shows that you could fit a similar size stadium to Commbank on the site by shifting it and rotating it slightly to the west. Their overlay is deliberately poorly positioned and include additional space around the arena that aren’t core parts of the stadium to make it look like it needs to be built into the lake. Which also isn’t necessarily a deal breaker anyway.

A Stadium like the North Queensland Countrybank which is 25000 is even smaller in footprint and would easily fit.

Not saying this excuses the Liberals own overlays deliberately being put together to suit their position but both parties are being disingenuous in their arguments.

Andrew Barr is getting desperate and everyone knows he simply does not want a stadium built. The site is clearly big enough and he hasn’t produced anything to say otherwise other than making some comments. McBain’s comments are also downright bizarre. Why would an opposition submit a business case to the feds before they are in govt. clearly Barr getting his fed mates to run interference because he is under serious pressure.

Barr also conveniently forgetting that it’s his party’s policy to spend billions to get the tram from Comm Park to Woden while the Libs will cut it – more than enough to fund a convention centre, stadium and hospital. There’s a reason Barr’s planning, if you can call it that, doesn’t include a stadium before 2033.

Garfield, the Libs will not scrap the tram to Woden if they want to build a stadium at this site. The only way it will be remotely possible is with light rail access going both ways on Commonwealth Avenue. There simply is not enough parking nearby. Even this article, Ms Lee refers to nearby light rail stops. It means more than LR into Civic – those people will still need to get on buses to get out of the city. The current bus network would not have the capacity to move than many people quickly.

Megsy,
that makes zero sense because you don’t “need” light rail, you only need public transport, which this site is convenient to major transport thoroughfares. Yes, the current bus network doesn’t have the capacity, but no one is suggesting you would only use those current buses. It’s quite easy to schedule additional buses for events and give them additional priority running, exactly what should have been done in the first place.

And sorry, there is ample parking within the city precinct, well within walking distance as happens in numerous city stadiums in Australia. People expecting to park right next to a stadium should not be encouraged, it’s enormously costly and wasteful.

And if you are so worried about transport, Bruce is far more isolated and difficult to get into because of the heavy reliance on private vehicles, with horrible public transport access. Have you ever parked there when its a full stadium? It’s horrendous to get in/out of.

Thanks Chewy, I was about to reply along the same lines as you, but I can get back to work now.

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