10 September 2024

Canberra Liberals commit to building city stadium at Acton Waterfront

| Ian Bushnell
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What the new stadium at Acton Waterfront would like like. Images: Canberra Liberals.

The Canberra Liberals have dropped an election bombshell by committing to delivering a new 30,000 stadium in the city at the Acton Waterfront, where the Barr Government is developing a public park by the lake and plans to release land for multi-unit housing and commercial projects.

Opposition Leader Elizabeth Lee said in a statement that a Liberal government would begin construction in its first term if elected on 19 October.

The Liberals had always supported the push for a stadium to be built in the city, but the choice of site is a surprise given the well-known plans for the waterfront.

On Saturday, the party announced it would build a new convention centre on the Civic pool site, which had been favoured for a stadium.

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Ms Lee said the Liberals were committed to providing Canberrans with a city stadium that would bring enormous social, cultural and economic benefits to the ACT.

“A world-class stadium located at the Acton Waterfront, in close proximity to restaurants, bars and hotels will revitalise not only the city centre but all of Canberra,” Ms Lee said.

“A new city stadium, delivered by the Canberra Liberals, will provide our local elite sporting teams, such as the Raiders, Brumbies and Canberra United, with a modern facility and will be a venue that attracts international sporting events, state of origin and world-class music and entertainment.”

Ms Lee said the chosen site for the stadium at the Acton Waterfront did not require other buildings to be knocked down or excessive associated works as those put forward by Chief Minister Andrew Barr at other sites across Canberra.

However, the statement did not say how much it would cost.

It did not mention the current plans for the Acton Waterfront. The park, named Ngamawari, is being developed in two stages and behind it is planned a new city neighbourhood of apartments, shops, businesses, cafes, recreational activities and commercial accommodation.

The proposal could also run into trouble winning approval from the National Capital Authority, particularly if the vistas to Parliament House are impeded.

Another view of the stadium proposal.

Ms Lee said the proposed stadium would significantly boost tourism and create local jobs, with taxpayers to receive significant economic benefits for money spent on the project even before considering federal funding or public-private partnership arrangements. The statement did not elaborate.

“There is a reason why cities all across Australia and the world build stadiums in the city centre,” Ms Lee said.

“The enormous benefits that come with an infrastructure project of this kind in the city have been proven time and time again.

“A new stadium located in the city will signal to the rest of Australia and the world that Canberra is open for business and open to host world-class events.”

Ms Lee said the Labor-Greens Government had no interest in building a new stadium, saying Mr Barr had strung Canberrans along for over a decade with broken promises and multiple feasibility studies.

“For too long Canberrans have been let down by a government that has failed time and time again to deliver infrastructure projects for the ACT,” she said.

“It is now abundantly clear that the Canberra Liberals are the only party that will build a new stadium for our city.”

Labor has settled on Bruce as the site for a new stadium, as part of the sport, health and education precinct, with the expectation that the Commonwealth would contribute to the cost. The current development trajectory has a stadium to be built by 2033.

Mr Barr abandoned the city stadium proposal for the Civic pool site because of site constraints and cost.

ACT Labor also plans to build a convention centre on the pool site but with a 7500-8000 seat entertainment pavilion and a timeline similar to that for the Bruce stadium.

The Liberals plan to break ground on their convention centre proposal in the first term in a staged build that will all up cost $760 million. They say the first stage will be up and running within five years.

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Rupert Samuel10:36 am 13 Sep 24

Wow. Talk about bread and circuses.

Can’t we just leave the last remnants of quiet open space alone? Another concrete monstrosity that will sit idle for at least six days out of every seven (and choke city traffic on the seventh) just doesn’t seem like a good idea.

This is an idea that makes me sad. But some mega-construction company will get rich and kickback, I mean, donate to a political party, so it must be a good idea, right..?

Maybe once we’ve housed the homeless (thanks to federal tax policies), we can look at upgrading a to a more luxurious home for ball games.

Make that bread, circuses, grift and bad priorities.

I’d be happy to see Labor voted out this year but we don’t need another stadium.

Gregg Heldon8:31 am 12 Sep 24

I hope it happens. It’s been a neglected piece of land for as long as the lake became a lake 60 odd years ago. It’s a car park right now that is never full.
It is out of the box thinking. A couple of restaurants or some food trucks along the promenade on the lake in front of the stadium. The boat shed could be turned into a pub that could have live music. Heaps of parking options on both sides of the lake within a 15 minute walk.
Buses put on from all the interchanges and the light rail will terminate there.

You’re a gem Gregg Heldon, thanks again for highlighting the hypocrisy of the Canberra Liberals and the disdain they hold for Canberra voters! People like you who believe their deceit, taken in by their humbug and vote for them is staggering! A party that has been languishing in opposition for 23 years!

The Canberra Liberals election commitments so far exceed $1.5b. They have made no commitments to health policy and the new North Canberra Hospital and other projects planned in the next term of government. They have now committed to building a 30,000 seat capacity stadium on Acton Peninsula in their first term and a convention centre down the road. A stadium which will be jammed onto one of our city’s most treasured and valuable landholdings within the parliamentary triangle. A building that blocks our city’s vistas and is too big for the site, exceeding the limits of the land it is built on and bursting out onto Lake Burley Griffin. Not to mention all of those angry citizens trying to access the facility after it is built! But that’s okay says Elizabeth Lee as she scoffs at and dismisses those niggly planning questions and undermining those who know better because it is “just a carpark” and she has a good relationship with those in the NCA whose decisions are tantamount to the project progressing! No problems with the Northside residents who can catch the tram she says!!

The Canberra Liberals have already lost one of its members who was disendorsed from the party just this week for breaching our territory’s laws!

Is this just the beginning?

Gregg Heldon2:09 pm 12 Sep 24

Thanks for pointing out that I am a gem, Jack. It’s appreciated.
Not too sure where I’ve pointed out any hypocrisy and I’m not sure you’ve pointed it out either. But, you know, par for the course.
Treasured and valuable landholdings? Only if your Geocon and their ilk seeing $2million 2 bed skyscrapers being built there with pavlovian relish. I’m sure they would block the city vistas more than the stadium would. But you know that.
And we all know that whatever the Liberals, or the Greens and the Independents wanted to do to that site, you would oppose it. Even it was a jungle gym for kids with some picnic tables to one side. But you would support anything that Labor wanted to put there. Even if it was a nuclear power plant.
$1.5 billion? For the relocation of the pool, the convention centre and the stadium? Even with a 10% discretion on top, is less than the conservative estimates of stage 2B to Woden. Something that still does not have NCA approval. True, nor does the stadium but the Canberra Times has had an article in it today, that has said the it is open to looking at the stadium proposal.
Nice. I’ll take 3 things over 1 for the money. So will a lot of other people. Just like you will support any and everything Andrew Barr brings to the election. Which will be the same things as last election. And the election before that.

A nuclear power plant is what the Liberals are proposing Gregg Heldon with stations in our cities and towns!

Please don’t give their ACT division any ideas!

God knows what would would happen!

Hahahaha, looks its that rabid partisan Jack D outing his and the ALP’s significant hypocrisy once again.

City’s most treasured land holdings? A barely used car park?

Bahahaha.

An area that the ALP government has slated for multi million dollar private apartments, which of course Jack is a fan of.

The ALPs capital works program is significantly bigger than what the Libs are proposing and Jack has been perfectly fine with any level of expenditure when costs and economic feasibility issues have been raised previously.

Strangely though, it seems Jack has now suddenly decided that infrastructure planning and feasibility issues are critically important after spending years defending the ALP for the exact same issues on the Light Rail project that he wholeheartedly supports.

Hilarious to see Hack now argue against his own position on Light Rail.

Why is Jack so rabidly anti-progress?

Why does he hate visionary, city shaping proposals that will drove economic growth for the city.

People like Jack would have been against building the Sydney Harbour Bridge, always so negative and backwards thinking in the face of progress.

Jack D – absolute rot

@Gregg Heldon
I think the boat shed should be set aside for barn dancing complemented with caravans and food trucks along and around the shoreline. One side of Northbourne Avenue can be set aside for parking to reduce expected crowd numbers and crushing.
Black Mountain peninsula can be set aside for camping.
That sort of progressive and “outside the box” thinking should really appeal to the Liberals with the party’s Peter Cain organising and policing the event with a metal detection wand which he has been advocating for, to ensure no untoward behaviour.

Gregg Heldon7:07 am 13 Sep 24

Now Harry, I’m not sure if you’re being sarcastic or off your meds. But I do know that I used to have to use a metal detection wand for work up at Parliament House back in the 80s and 90s.
And I’m sure that there’s already a few rough sleepers sleeping in their cars on black Mountain peninsular as it is, unfortunately because they can’t afford to sleep anywhere else. Let’s hope that situation changes soon.

Amanda Kiley8:41 am 13 Sep 24

So you’re happy to re-elect a government who has systemically failed Canberra year, after year, after year? Andrew Barr has shown utter contempt for Canberra’s residents by running ramshot over our hard earned tax dollars *all we see in the news is spend, spend, spend), his counterpart Shane Rattenbury doesn’t have an individual thought, Labor and Greens (see “other Labor”) ministers appear do what they want, when they want with little regard for consequences.

Why can’t Labor and Greens voters understand this cannot continue?

Gregg Heldon11:42 am 13 Sep 24

Who was the directed to? Hope it wasn’t me.

ALTERNAIVELY…
Level that wasteland monstrosity – City Hill (Rabbit Hollow) possibly used by 100 Ken Behrens per year, cut down the ugly, grossly unsuitable trees there (and ignore the ludicrous “activity” plans for City Hill by the City Renewal Authority), and build the stadium there. Put the flagpole on the stadium roof.

Create the ultimate Canberran triangulation – War Memorial, Parliament and Stadium.
WBG and Marion would love it.

Rebuild the Convention Centre and Civic Pool in their current zone and make a decent, enjoyable, vibrant CBD sporting/entertainment precinct.

Plenty of possibilities for additional underground parking capacity (and buildings) on the
“new land” created by removal of the old clover leafs at new London Circt/LR2A junction works.

Replicate LR to encircle the eastern side of London Circt so that half the LR services could travel either side of London Circt and collect passengers from work, residential and retail precincts on both sides of London Circt. Huge passenger potential – Canberra Centre, Braddon, Reid, Convention Centre, Pool, CIT – currently ignored.

While they’re at it, time to move the Archbishops House on and expand that land into the community’s Commonwealth Park.

Easy peasy

WEST BASIN sounds promising option – extra parking in Hyatt/Treasury areas on game days/nights too and walk over bridge like in Perth to Optus Stadium.
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Level that wasteland monstrosity – City Hill (Rabbit Hollow) possibly used by 100 Ken Behrens per year, cut down the ugly, grossly unsuitable trees there (and ignore the ludicrous “activity” plans for City Hill by the City Renewal Authority), and build the stadium there. Put the flagpole on the stadium roof.

Create the ultimate Canberran triangulation – War Memorial, Parliament and Stadium.
WBG and Marion would love it.

Rebuild the Convention Centre and Civic Pool in their current zone and make a decent, enjoyable, vibrant CBD sporting/entertainment precinct.

Plenty of possibilities for additional underground parking capacity (and buildings) on the “new land” created by removal of the old vehicle clover leafs at new London Circt/LR2a junction works.

Replicate LR to encircle the eastern side of London Circt so that half the LR services could travel either side of London Circt and collect passengers from work, residential and retail precincts on both sides of London Circt. Huge passenger potential – Canberra Centre, Braddon, Reid, Convention Centre, Pool, CIT – currently ignored.

While they’re at it, time to move the Archbishops House on and expand that land into the People’s Commonwealth Park.

Fantastic news! A city stadium is what Canberra needs. It would showcase Canberra to the rest of Australia and would be great for tourism and businesses in the city when the stadium was being used. Make it happen…please.

Daryl Murray8:06 pm 10 Sep 24

Won’t fit there. Float it on the lake! It’s the only feasible option.

Lake Tuggeranong

well at least reclaim some of the lake to fit it in

Finally, somebody’s going to actually do something not just do another report into what we might or might not do. Again and again and again.

Andrew Cooke5:43 pm 10 Sep 24

Who did the render for this? It’s horribly out of scale. Two tiers of seating all in less height than a gym tree? The canopy above the end is barely tall enough to stand under.

They haven’t said how that number of people will access the site. Does that $760 M include road works to build some sort of access roads? The two roads that would be most affected are Commonwealth Avenue and Parkes Way – what level of disruption will be needed to build this access? On a game day/night, how much congestion is expected to build up on these two main roads. There is a lot of detail missing in this proposal. Is it a case of them not having worked it all out, or are they hoping Canberrans will take them on blind trust and not suspect the budget and/or timeline will blow out?

Gets my vote

Great news! Each football game on TV (regardless of code) always shows a high drone shot on the arenas and surrounds. At the moment, ours is embarrassing.
How great will this look with LBG and Parliament House in the background.
Great selling point for the city.

Scott Nofriends2:52 pm 10 Sep 24

Great Idea. Would love to see this happen.

Yet another political fluff announcement designed to enthuse potential voters who don’t want to look at proposals critically and love easy UN costed or engineered solutions. Could be at least part NCA controlled land, no parking of significance nearby, tram could move a few thousand people an hour at best, part of the site is reclaimed land from the lake and would need a lot of work, etc.

BTW why are obviously Liberal supporters so keen on the tram as a way of moving spectators?

Gregg Heldon8:39 pm 10 Sep 24

Uncoated? Like stage 2B of the light rail?

At the Sydney Football Stadium and Sydney Cricket Ground on a big day any pub within 30 mins walk from the grounds is full and has a great buzz, both before and after the game/match. With the light rail in place, a similar thing could happen here with every decent bar from Lyneham, Dickson, O’Connor, Braddon, Civic and even eventually Woden being the place to be.

How funny! An anti-light rail proponent singing its praises!

Andrew Cooke1:32 pm 10 Sep 24

My question as always with this is how does the stadium get used for the 99% of time there isn’t a game on?

This is a genuine question, is there any way to activate a stadium site for the benefit of all of the community all of the year? Can you build shops, exhibition spaces, car parks, etc… underneath a stadium so people can use it year round? I can find one example in Serbia but not many others.

This same question could be asked of any stadium in the world. Im sure that other events could be arranged such as concerts etc

Andrew Cooke5:38 pm 10 Sep 24

Yes it could but there is a marked difference between the MCG with a population that can service a 80000 person crowd every weekend and Canberra which struggles to get more than 15000 people to events once a month

Hahahaha. What a joke, the site is way too small, it’s smaller than the Civic Pool site to start with, plus you can almost guarantee that the NCA will block it being built. The biggest problem is, that there is nowhere in the City precinct, large enough to accommodate a viable stadium, not without knocking down existing buildings.

Someone suggested knocking down the Bruce Stadium, um no, it’s part of the AIS infrastructure. It is still currently the best site to build a new stadium, though the Canberra Racecourse site opposite EPIC, would actually be an excellent site, due to its size, access to light rail, just for starters.

The site is 2 to 3 times bigger than the pool site

This is a pretty shrewd political move by the Libs regardless of the merits or likelihood of a stadium ever getting built here.

They’ve used some of the ALP’s own arguments against them as well as defusing their ridiculous costings around the Civic pool site. Interesting to see how the ALP responds.

I’m sure people like Jack D will be fully supportive of this “visionary” policy proposal by the Libs. Really progressive, transformative, city shaping and it will drive economic growth with “insert other buzz words here”.

Yeah chewy really visionary! Are people so stupid, obviously the Canberra Liberals think they are!

A really progressive, transformative, city shaping project that has not even made it past the thought bubble stage, being built in the first term of government on our city’s most environmentally significant land! Not to mention the party’s plans to build the convention centre just down the road at the same time! City shaping projects that h1ave no federal funding commitments or public-private partnership arrangements

These projects take in the parliamentary triangle and block its vista. They have also had no input from the NCA, whose decisions and approvals are integral to the projects proceeding.

I am looking forward to seeing further details of these proposals and the Liberals revealing the costs and how they plan to work collegiately with the federal government to contribute and deliver the projects.

Like every proposal the Liberals put forward shortly before elections, they are a bit cagey on specifics and a little light on detail!

Ah Jack,
you never fail to disappoint in your partisan hypocrisy.

The ALP are proposing to build multistory apartments on the same land, not sure why you think it’s the “city’s most environmentally significant land”.

Same exact point goes for parliamentary triangle vistas, which will be an issue for any development on the site.

And why would you expect an opposition party that has no access to government resources to have detailed studies or intergovernmental agreements in place?

How exactly does an opposition party seek input from the NCA on an election policy commitment?

The ALP is actually proposing a far more significant capital works program that is uncosted and undetailed, yet you wholeheartedly support it without thought.

“I am looking forward to seeing further details of these proposals and the Liberals revealing the costs and how they plan to work collegiately with the federal government to contribute and deliver the projects.
Like every proposal the Liberals put forward shortly before elections, they are a bit cagey on specifics and a little light on detail!”

LOL, you’re the same Jack D that eats up the ALP government making numerous uncosted and vague commitments prior to elections that get shelved soon after?

The same Jack D that supports the government committing to spending billions on projects like light rail with no detail, options studies or business cases even being released.

Too funny.

It’s chewy again going around in circles with another predictable comment. A rabid anti-light rail proponent, he is off on another rant against the project!

Hopefully chewy and the other naysayers out there retreat into their boxes after the next election in 38 days when ACT voters again vote in support of the project!

Oh my, It’s the rabid partisan Jack D, once again avoiding the points to go off on one of his constantly negative rants.

Why are people like Jack D, so against visionary and progressive policies put forward to move our city forward into the next century. The economic growth from such city shaping projects is enormous.

People like Jack D would have complained about other visionary projects that have shaped our country like the Sydney Harbour Bridge, Opera House and the Snowy Hydro scheme.

Gregg Heldon8:21 am 12 Sep 24

Environmentally significant land.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.
Your best comment ever. It’s a car park! It’s a piece of land that, until now, neither side of politics have known what to do with for the 60 years that the lake has been filled in.
Oh, except for the current Government whose idea is…….. luxury apartments. My, how progressive. This idea, at least took thought.

Incidental Tourist11:08 am 10 Sep 24

Great news. Acton is far better stadium location. Actually it takes advantage of the tram extension too. This is also “independence” test to Pocock as if he throws his support behind new stadium.

Looks like a plan Stan, time to get Labor-Greens out of the way. Now the waterfront has been extended, the area is much larger than the pool site. Light-rail will stop out front by 2028, and Parkes Way can stay how it is.

Not sure why Ian is worried about the “vistas”, Labor-Greens planned to build apartment towers on the site.

That looks great, but I bet it would never be built. The cost would not just that of building the stadium, but also the lost revenue from the sale of the Acton waterfront land and the rates that would generate. Instead I think this would just end up leaving the Acton waterfront as a surface carpark indefinitely because the land would be “set aside for a stadium”.
That said, if they actually did mean to build it, it is a very sensible place and it would be great, though the current pedestrian bridge across Parkes way would be very insufficient

Gregg Heldon11:08 am 10 Sep 24

If they sold of Bruce outdoor for housing and/or shopping, there is some rates in the kitty and it helps pay for the new stadium.

After Mr Barr’s seven stadium feasibility studies, repeated broken promises of a new Civic stadium for the last three elections, we’ll have to see whether this option is viable.
With neither Labor nor Liberal any chance of governing in their own right, the location of the new stadium will be decided by either the Greens or Independents.

This is the one policy that the Liberals have right. No one wants to go out for a night out in Bruce. Canberra doesn’t get big artists and international acts while Newcastle does. A city stadium and entertainment precinct would be a boon for the city and local businesses and would bring Canberra into the 21st century.

But who can trust the Liberals with Hanson and the other far right-wing clowns hiding behind Lee and the prospect of Zed still hanging around and being all in on a Bruce upgrade?

Gregg Heldon11:09 am 10 Sep 24

I trust them to be better than Barr and Rattenbury.

Not exactly a convincing argument that Lee is nothing more than a front for the far right wing clowns like Hanson.

Gregg Heldon8:47 pm 10 Sep 24

The way she dealt with the far right in the shadow cabinet reshuffle suggests otherwise.

Absolute winner of an Idea , & just goes to show when something is needed you can work it out . The ACT is in desperate need of change & a new direction after 24 years of abject mediocre from successive Labor govts & Barr has taken mediocre to new levels in these last 10 years. Voters know what to do. Ms Lee is exactly what Canberra needs.

Such a brilliant proposal and the images look terrific!
Barr kicked an own goal by not pursuing his own idea of a Civic Stadium, and now Elizabeth Lee has capitalised on it.
We absolutely need a stadium in the City, glad to see the Liberals offering a viable option to achieve this.

I wonder if it will be as successful as the world class futsal facility built by the libs in the 90s hahaha.

It is not a bad shout, but it probably faces similar site size constraints as the civic pool site. I’m not sure the SimCity’esque render really takes into account the effective space needed around a stadium as well.

And that’s before the joys of what the NCA may think….

Actually not a bad spot for a stadium at all. Civic pool would have been a little more convenient for access to the city centre, but if the costs there don’t stack up, this is definitely the next best thing.

Well, there goes the waterfront. It’d become a combined parking and services area for anything that large. Fine, if you’re going to build one, put it in the city. That makes sense. But why destroy the waterfront?

Gregg Heldon11:14 am 10 Sep 24

Or, it can enhance the waterfront. Go for a walk before or after a game or concert. Have a feed or a meal. It gives you multiple things to do in a small area.

What a sensible idea! It’ll be close to light rail stage 2A, various options for dining etc after the game and won’t require moving anything. If only someone could have figured this out via one or seven feasibility studies!

Gregg Heldon10:25 am 10 Sep 24

If they can build both new convention centre, the stadium and relocate the pool to Commonwealth Park for the figure mentioned of $760million, then I’m happy.
I would like to know what will happen to Bruce though.
Housing and shopping could contribute to the cost.
Keep the running track and Bruce Indoor. Saw the Cannons and many great bands there over the years.

In Adelaide when they did away with Football Park they sold the space to developers who knocked it down and built homes, retail and an old folks home.

Gregg Heldon11:36 am 10 Sep 24

Sounds like a plan.

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