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Macgregor grow house goes down

By johnboy 16 December 2013 49

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ACT Policing executed a warrant in Macgregor on Sunday (December 15) seizing approximately $230 000 in cash and more than 80 Cannabis plants.

These arrests are part of an eight month investigation in which detectives from Criminal Investigation’s Drug and Organised Crime Team had been observing illicit drug dealing activities of a known drug person of interest.

Police believe one of the men is a major supplier of cannabis in the Canberra region.

During their investigation police witnessed two men meet briefly at a house in Macgregor yesterday.

After one man left the premises, police conducted a traffic stop on his vehicle seizing over two kilos of cannabis. Police then arrested the 64-year-old Scullin man and charged him with trafficking in cannabis.

Shortly after, a 43-year-old Dunlop man left the premises and another traffic stop was conducted and police seized approximately $230 000 cash from the vehicle.

Police executed a search warrant at the Macgregor premises and received information which indicated the house next door was a grow house. Police executed another search warrant on the house next door and located more than 80 cannabis plants at the house.

The 43-year-old man was then arrested and charged with trafficking in cannabis and Receive/Possess Proceeds of Crime.

Police will be opposing bail for both men and they will face the ACT Magistrates Court this afternoon (Monday, December 16).

Anyone with information regarding illicit drug dealing in the community is urged to contact Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000 or via www.act.crimestoppers.com.au. Information can be provided anonymously.

[Courtesy ACT Policing]

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rhino 12:55 pm 18 Dec 13

PBO said :

rhino said :

Tymefor said :

What are these negatives? Nobody has ever died from marijuana. Toilets have killed more people.

I’m going to stop you right there:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2442411/Brazilian-man-crushed-death-weed-cannabis-trafficking-chase.html

There has been one death directly attributed to marijuana but not through use.

Otherwise, it is relatively harmless.

That is attributable to marijuana being illegal. If it wasn’t illegal, that death would not have occurred.

PBO 11:52 am 18 Dec 13

rhino said :

Tymefor said :

What are these negatives? Nobody has ever died from marijuana. Toilets have killed more people.

I’m going to stop you right there:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2442411/Brazilian-man-crushed-death-weed-cannabis-trafficking-chase.html

There has been one death directly attributed to marijuana but not through use.

Otherwise, it is relatively harmless.

Deref 10:24 am 18 Dec 13

MrBigEars said :

Perhaps if there was a way to stop f***wits being f***wits, we could move on as a society.

That’d certainly be the ultimate solution.

Drugs are bad, mkay? But the vast majority of the problems attributed to drugs are the direct result of prohibition, not of drugs. The prohibitionists probably think that banning drugs is the best way to deal with the problem, though, if so, you can only shake your head at their (wilful?) blindness to the overwhelming evidence.

MrBigEars 9:59 am 18 Dec 13

rhino said :

Tymefor said :

while agree on most of the points in the pro legalisation debate. I feel, as a community, we already pay for the negative side of alcohol abuse. Abuse of alcohol can lead to hospitalization, violence, both domestic and public, more dangerous roads and increases in crime. Marijuana use would be abused aswell.

so considering we already pay for one drug, why should we pay for another?

Especially when, unlike alchohol, marijuana is not enjoyed and used safely by the majority of the community.

Are you trolling?

Prohibition showed us that banning alcohol did more harm than good. Yes alcohol is quite bad for us in a sense, but it’s less bad than prohibition.

As for abusing marijuana, what would that entail? Most likely sitting peacefully in front of the tv or computer or eating something quietly at home. The studies and research all show that marijuana is vastly less harmful than alcohol or cigarettes. Plus the idea that it can’t be abused because it is illegal is also false. It’s just that marijuana “abuse” doesn’t really exist in the way that alcohol abuse does.

And the idea that alcohol is “enjoyed safely by the majority of the community” is a bit of a stretch when the data shows that it’s far less safe than marijuana.

“National” Prohibition in the US was successful in that it reduced consumption of alchol, reduced alcohol related diseases, and reduced alcohol related crime in the jurisdictions where it was implemented.
However, people who still drank, drank unregulated hooch in unregulated speakeasys (easies?), thereby concentrating illicit wealth into the hands of a few of the many organised gangs, who went on to ruthlessly control the activities of the other gangs, which actually reduced organised crime).

I’m undecided about decriminalising marijuana, but I suspect the argument is more nuanced than drugs good/drugs bad.

Perhaps if there was a way to stop f***wits being f***wits, we could move on as a society.

rhino 9:27 am 18 Dec 13

Tymefor said :

Are you trying to say there are no negatives to a community that allows the use of marijuana…..

of course there are!! what im trying to say is. I don’t want to have to contribute towards fixing those problems when I already contribute towards the problems from alchohol

What are these negatives? Nobody has ever died from marijuana. Toilets have killed more people.

Assuming there were negatives, they would exist today anyway because it’s not hard to get marijuana. So you already have that cost. On top of that cost today you also have policing costs, court costs, imprisonment costs, increased crime etc and reduced respect for the law etc. All of these vastly outweigh any costs of using marijuana (which are costs whether it’s legal or not).

Thumper 9:00 am 18 Dec 13

poetix said :

Thumper said :

I look forward to the legalising Laudanum once again…

Absinthe has been banned, and legalised, in quite recent times.  What the green fairy makes of being sold at Dan Murphy’s is another question.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absinthe

I drink Absinthe regularly.

Every writer should, as Hemmingway clearly demonstrated 🙂

Alderney 7:43 am 18 Dec 13

Tymefor said :

rhino said :

Tymefor said :

while agree on most of the points in the pro legalisation debate. I feel, as a community, we already pay for the negative side of alcohol abuse. Abuse of alcohol can lead to hospitalization, violence, both domestic and public, more dangerous roads and increases in crime. Marijuana use would be abused aswell.

so considering we already pay for one drug, why should we pay for another?

Especially when, unlike alchohol, marijuana is not enjoyed and used safely by the majority of the community.

Are you trolling?

Prohibition showed us that banning alcohol did more harm than good. Yes alcohol is quite bad for us in a sense, but it’s less bad than prohibition.

As for abusing marijuana, what would that entail? Most likely sitting peacefully in front of the tv or computer or eating something quietly at home. The studies and research all show that marijuana is vastly less harmful than alcohol or cigarettes. Plus the idea that it can’t be abused because it is illegal is also false. It’s just that marijuana “abuse” doesn’t really exist in the way that alcohol abuse does.

And the idea that alcohol is “enjoyed safely by the majority of the community” is a bit of a stretch when the data shows that it’s far less safe than marijuana.

Are you trying to say there are no negatives to a community that allows the use of marijuana…..

of course there are!! what im trying to say is. I don’t want to have to contribute towards fixing those problems when I already contribute towards the problems from alchohol

The basis sentiment of your argument Tymfor is sound however, you’re already paying for use of the drug through policing resources, courts, gaols etc. And probably a lot more than if it were a legal product. Moreover, its current status raises no revenue.

maxblues 4:24 am 18 Dec 13

poetix said :

Thumper said :

I look forward to the legalising Laudanum once again…

Absinthe has been banned, and legalised, in quite recent times.  What the green fairy makes of being sold at Dan Murphy’s is another question.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absinthe

Dan Murphy (yes, the Dan Murphy) was a criminal who did time in Pentridge Prison.

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