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By johnboy 6 May 2010 35

If we lived in a sane municipality supermarket operators would buy land in suitably zoned areas based on perceived needs in the market.

But because this is not a sane municipality the central government decides where supermarkets will be, and who will operate them.

Witness the Chiefly Stanhope announcing second supermarkets for Dickson and Kingston, and new supermarkets for Casey (2 there in fact) and Amaroo.

Specifically:

Mr Stanhope said the Government had decided:

— Kingston – To release a site in the Eyre Street car park for a 3400 sq metre Supabarn supermarket as part of a mixed development;
— Dickson – To release a site for a large format supermarket to all players, except the incumbent Woolworths. The site, on the large surface car park adjacent to Woolworths, would be available for a store in excess of 2500 sq m;
— Casey – To release sites for ALDI and Supabarn, with a possible further release in three years for a large format supermarket site; and
— Amaroo – To release a site for a large format supermarket, with Woolworths and Coles excluded from participating.

Inner Northicans welcome a competitor to the widely loathed Woolworths, but we await with interest exactly where we will park while the new complex is built.

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GnT 10:26 pm 09 May 10

seanneko said :

georgesgenitals said :

What’s wrong with Woolies? Our local is a Woolies and they’re pretty good, although they do get pretty busy at peak times.

The range of products is terrible, it’s dirty, and way too crowded. Sometimes I can spend 10-15 minutes queueing up there to get through the express checkout.

I love how people complain about the big two having a duopoly, then complain how crap they are. Obviously plenty of people think they have something to offer or they wouldn’t be making so much money.

You can’t have it both ways. You can’t complain about big supermarkets under pricing smaller independents (being ‘competitive’) then call it anti-competitive behaviour. You can’t claim they are inferior in price, range, service, cleanliness, whatever then demand government intervention to reduce their market share. They are successful because they are giving customers what they want – longer opening hours, lower prices, bigger range, convenience. If other supermarkets want more market share they need to offer some of this (as ALDI has done).

2604 2:46 pm 08 May 10

Snarky said :

bd84 said :

For example, Aldi has some cheaper prices, but little range, quality or customer service, adding them to the market has done just about nothing.

Um, have you actually shopped there?

But Snarky, why should people limit themselves to posting on things they have actual knowledge of when they can make bland, vacuous generalisations on every single topic?

Re Aldi, I agree with you – we made the switch from Coles to Aldi two years ago and have been able to cut back the weekly grocery budget from $200 to $100. No quality worries at all and in fact most of Aldi’s meat and F&V is better than what we were getting at Coles.

pepmeup 12:27 pm 08 May 10

1, Donner shops is closed because Blackett Homes want to redevelop the site.

2, Woolies Dickson is a lot better now they have the self check out lanes.

3, coles and woolies do have good fresh produce, its just too many people touch it before you get the chance to buy it. If you go on the days that it is fresh on the shelf it is great.

4, I thought they were building the Aldi in the smaller car park behind the library.

5, I do still think more local shopping is a great idea, I live in Kaleen and shop between the IGA and the Supa Barn, I think they are both great. Also Choku by jo in North Lyneham is great for fresh produce.

Snarky 11:14 am 08 May 10

bd84 said :

For example, Aldi has some cheaper prices, but little range, quality or customer service, adding them to the market has done just about nothing.

Um, have you actually shopped there? Aldi has quite a good range – it has little variety within that range though. It’s prices are markedly cheaper overall and WRT quality of goods I’ve found only one duff choice in there (steer clear of the fish fillets in a can). Although I do my fruit and veg shopping at CIT markets, when I have bought F&V from Aldi it’s been consistently better quality and freshness than I get from Woolies or Coles.

I don’t know exactly how much of an inroad Aldi’s made to the Canberra market but these days 70% of my dry grocery dollars go to Aldi rather than Coles or Woolies, with another 20% to our local shops. Coles and Woolies get the 10% remainder, down from 70%. I may be unique in swapping over, but I doubt it.

bd84 9:52 pm 07 May 10

troll-sniffer said :

One thing about Woolies I have found is that they cater exclusively for the bogan market. Whatever turns over fastest on the shelves, superior but slightly slower moving items disappear. I can’t count the number of items that I’ve started to enjoy only to find they’ve disappeared to be replaced by the latest thing advertised on reality TV.

Coles is a bit better, at least at Manuka they tend to have some pretence at quality stock.

Supa Barn is way out in front, the best of the bunch. Couple of bucks more in the shopping basket… who cares? At least there are some exotic items scattered through the other mindlessly consumerist junk.

But between you and me, I’m glad Woolies is able to attract the bogans like bogong moths to a flame (I’ve waited a long time to use that) because it means I don’t have them clogging up the aisles in my local quality supermarket.

So you just accused the majority of businesses in Australia (and the world) and the world of catering for the “bogan” market. The purpose of running a business is to make money, to make money you need to stock products that consumers want (the ones that sell in quantities and return value), therefore it would be common sense that if products do not sell that they would be replaced with new or different ones. Businesses that stock their shelves with products that one guy in Canberra happened to like will go broke in about a week.

benett said :

Anybody that thinks Woolworths is providing A-Grade service and prices for shoppers are seriously deluded. More competition the better. I cannot see how this could be anything but a good move for shoppers. Nothing more needs to be said.

True, but new players in the market do not automatically mean that you will get great prices and services either. For example, Aldi has some cheaper prices, but little range, quality or customer service, adding them to the market has done just about nothing. Supabarn has some range, some slightly better service but are more expensive, impact on competition, again not much.

pptvb 8:07 pm 07 May 10

JC said :

Rawhide Kid No 2 said :

Didn’t the local government do this with Petrol Stations a few years ago by letting a company from WA (I think)rent free set up along Wentworth in Kingston. Once the free rent finished the company disappeared.

That was Gull and they weren’t just on Wentworth Ave there were several places and they sold their sites to Woolworths.

No JC
That was Burmah

I-filed 7:20 pm 07 May 10

There was a second supermarket at Dickson until about 12 years ago but it went out of business …

benett 6:30 pm 07 May 10

Anybody that thinks Woolworths is providing A-Grade service and prices for shoppers are seriously deluded. More competition the better. I cannot see how this could be anything but a good move for shoppers. Nothing more needs to be said.

sepi 5:19 pm 07 May 10

Downer shops could be easily turned around.

It went bust because the supermarket there was the worst ever – worse even than dickson woolies, and stank. but that was in the days of mostly pensioners at Downer. Now Downer is full of young families and cashed up couples, a more expensive, but nicer supermarket could do really really well.

Downer shops also has that lovely courtyard, and is crying out for a cafe.

Hackett shops was nearly down and out (reduced to a very dodgy supermarket), and was bought out, improved, and is now starring on with a thriving IGA and a great cafe, and more shops to come I think.

There is no reason downer shops couldn’t do just as well – not everyone wants to put up with woolies for the sake of saving 5 bucks.

troll-sniffer 3:44 pm 07 May 10

One thing about Woolies I have found is that they cater exclusively for the bogan market. Whatever turns over fastest on the shelves, superior but slightly slower moving items disappear. I can’t count the number of items that I’ve started to enjoy only to find they’ve disappeared to be replaced by the latest thing advertised on reality TV.

Coles is a bit better, at least at Manuka they tend to have some pretence at quality stock.

Supa Barn is way out in front, the best of the bunch. Couple of bucks more in the shopping basket… who cares? At least there are some exotic items scattered through the other mindlessly consumerist junk.

But between you and me, I’m glad Woolies is able to attract the bogans like bogong moths to a flame (I’ve waited a long time to use that) because it means I don’t have them clogging up the aisles in my local quality supermarket.

54-11 2:36 pm 07 May 10

I think this is a good idea (got to be the first time I’ve agreed with Stanhope for many years). Supermarket cartels are a great example of market failure, and this policy will help to balance things up a bit.

JC 2:31 pm 07 May 10

Rawhide Kid No 2 said :

Didn’t the local government do this with Petrol Stations a few years ago by letting a company from WA (I think)rent free set up along Wentworth in Kingston. Once the free rent finished the company disappeared.

That was Gull and they weren’t just on Wentworth Ave there were several places and they sold their sites to Woolworths.

Jim Jones 2:26 pm 07 May 10

There was a ‘supermarket’ at Downer shops. It went broke (like every other store at the Downer shops) because of the competition from Dickson.

Rawhide Kid No 2 12:30 pm 07 May 10

Didn’t the local government do this with Petrol Stations a few years ago by letting a company from WA (I think)rent free set up along Wentworth in Kingston. Once the free rent finished the company disappeared.

Buzz2600 10:04 am 07 May 10

+1000 Sepi and GG – Increased competition from smaller/independent supermarkets is important but I can’t understand why Downer shops remains bordered up and useless while traffic congestion around Dickson is only going to get worse with another large Coles in the vacinity with decreased parking spaces.

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