My dog + Your dog = ?

weeziepops 14 March 2009 50

Every night I put my stafford on his lead and head out for a walk. He stays on his lead for the duration of the walk and I pick up his poop in accordance with requirements. In short, we don’t impact negatively on anyone as we enjoy our evening stroll.

Last night, I had to contend with two very yappy Pomeranians who stopped traffic by standing in the middle of the road and barking at us before deciding to push their luck by coming over to have a go at my dog. I then enjoyed an interaction with a woman who, seeing that I was holding my dog back from the path, deigned to unglue her mobile phone from her ear long enough to assure me that her dog (off lead, of course, and eager to spend some quality time in my personal space) was “harmless”.

That’s great, I told her, but how do you know mine is?

In fact, he isn’t great with other dogs – I keep him on a lead and expect other dog owners to do the same. And if my dog behaved the way those Pomeranians did, I’m sure people would be baying for his blood.

Rules apply to little dogs, too, you know!


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Calamity Calamity 1:17 pm 25 Jul 11

Hank said :

Not all small dogs should get a bad rap. I have a pug and almost every dog growls at him; his reaction is to lie on his back and expose his fat tummy ready to be eaten. On the other hand I have to say I’ve have never met a normal toy poodle, they all snap and bark and are overall horrible animals (the ones I’ve met).

I have a little shih tzu and am mortified to say that he has started growling & barking at big (friendly) dogs! I say to him (cause you know, he understands human) ‘WHAT are you doing??! He could have you in one bite!’ – but at the business end, I will a) always tell him off for starting fights so as to try & teach him better behaviour and b) keep him on a lead at all times in public spaces. I do this as much for his safety (he is tiny – it would not end well for him) as I do it for the other dogs – because I hate to think that he would bait a big dog, big dog would bite him, and big dog would be the one put down. Really not fair – so as a small dog lover, I am 100% behind the big dog owners here!

Just because they are wee does not mean they can’t cause significant trouble!

Hank Hank 12:55 pm 25 Jul 11

Not all small dogs should get a bad rap. I have a pug and almost every dog growls at him; his reaction is to lie on his back and expose his fat tummy ready to be eaten. On the other hand I have to say I’ve have never met a normal toy poodle, they all snap and bark and are overall horrible animals (the ones I’ve met).

Pokerface Pokerface 12:38 pm 25 Jul 11

A vet told me that if every dog was kept on the lead when they were on walks he’d be out of business! Save your pocket and keep your dog on a lead. That way it can’t run onto the road or attack people or other dogs, and prevent it being attacked (hopefully). I’d love for my dog to run free but there are too many hazzards out there, and I love her too much. It’s a small sacrifice to ensure I’ll have her till old age. And she loves her walks, on the lead or off!

peterh peterh 3:56 pm 16 Mar 09

Madame Workalot said :

Thank you Holden, I was trying to find words for that sentiment but couldn’t do it without being nasty!

Dogs by their very nature are unpredictable. They cannot be expected to be kept completely under control of their owner by verbal command only. It is our responsibility as pet owners to ensure they are under complete control in variable areas, for their own safety as well as the safety of others.

if you let a dog off the leash in an area where i and my kids are, even if you cannot see me, you put my children at risk. off leash areas are designed so that littlies can walk at the park without fear.

if joycestanton’s dog came bounding up to me, with my kids, I don’t care how trained the dog is. my kids aren’t trained to react calmly, they will carry on a treat. or run away, or do something the dog won’t expect. and then I will be forced to use my big walking stick to defend them.

I don’t do it often. i haven’t needed to. but saying that your dog off the leash because there aren’t any victims around, well, that is a bit of a joke. How do you know? and for the record, all 3 kids are allergic to dogs. we operate a strict no dogs policy in my house, the last thing I need is to spend a week in hospital whilst the kids struggle to breathe.

oh, and would you walk across the oval / park or area you were in to bag their droppings? off leash, they can go where they please.

Furry Jesus Furry Jesus 3:43 pm 16 Mar 09

astrojax said :

three post nutbag.

someone had to say it. ; )

xo

imarty imarty 2:44 pm 16 Mar 09

I went to a zoo on the weekend and it only had a dog in it. It was a Shi-Tzu.

astrojax astrojax 1:23 pm 16 Mar 09

three post nutbag.

someone had to say it. ; )

Furry Jesus Furry Jesus 11:02 am 16 Mar 09

bloody italics

Furry Jesus Furry Jesus 10:59 am 16 Mar 09

Madame Workalot said :

JoyceStanton said :

I think you’re wrong. How about someone who is absolutely terrified of dogs? … Alternatively, if you’re not prepared to take your dog to a designated area for them to run free, you should consider a cat instead.

Couldn’t agree more MW. Who speaks for the dog-phobic? As for cats, don’t get me started on cat-owners who take no responsibility for their little predators’ killing off the local wildlife (Princess Jesus, I hope you’re reading this).

Furry Jesus Furry Jesus 10:54 am 16 Mar 09

I always call Domestic Animal Services when I see dogs roaming unsupervised. Having been a big dog owner for most of my life, I understand that people who don’t know my dogs will often feel a bit nervous/anxious/terrified by them when they come bounding up, so I never take them anywhere without a leash, and I always live in houses with big fences to keep them in.

Owners who can’t see beyond how their cute little poochie behaves at home and are dismissive of the need to err on the side of caution for the people who live on the other side of their little picket-fenced dream world need a solid wake-up call. I know of several cases of children being bitten by local dogs and the owners always seem to respond with some dumb-assed sentiment about how little poochie’s never done anything like that before…or worse “the child must have done something to provoke him…”

I can’t see community education having much impact, as many of the owners of unsupervised dogs are so blind/naive/self-centred that they assume it’s always the other person/dog/dog owner. Can we have open season for roaming dogs, perhaps one month a year, where the local citizenry can gun up and hoon around the streets shooting the loose ones and draping their carcasses over the bonnet (no, I’m not particularly sentimental about pets). Might get over the threshold of some selfish owners – might being the operative word.

Madame Workalot Madame Workalot 10:37 am 16 Mar 09

Thank you Holden, I was trying to find words for that sentiment but couldn’t do it without being nasty!

Dogs by their very nature are unpredictable. They cannot be expected to be kept completely under control of their owner by verbal command only. It is our responsibility as pet owners to ensure they are under complete control in variable areas, for their own safety as well as the safety of others.

Holden Caulfield Holden Caulfield 10:34 am 16 Mar 09

Dogs off a lead always being under control. Haha, that’s a good laugh. I bet Joyce thinks all she needs to do to be a “good” driver is keep under the speed limit.

Madame Workalot Madame Workalot 10:31 am 16 Mar 09

JoyceStanton said :

Precisely weezie! The dogs need to be in control,like mine(anytime,anywhere,anyplace)…that’s the whole point. But hey,I’m breaking the law…where no victim lies.

I think you’re wrong. How about someone who is absolutely terrified of dogs? They have a reasonable expectation to walk in a street and NOT see dogs off the lead (regardless of if you think they’re under your control or not). Are they not a victim?

If you don’t have enough room at home for your dog to run around in the yard, perhaps you should reconsider owning a pet. Alternatively, if you’re not prepared to take your dog to a designated area for them to run free, you should consider a cat instead.

NoAddedMSG NoAddedMSG 10:28 am 16 Mar 09

I think the problem with little dogs is that they don’t get trained properly. A big dog behaving badly is much scarier than a little dog behaving badly, so people take steps to train the big dog, but the little dog just gets away with it.

That said, I hate and despise our neighbours who have a big, aggressive rottie in their backyard which goes mental everytime someone in our unit complex ventures anywhere near our carpark (which backs on to their back yard). I have never seen our neighbours walk the dog or interact with it, and they recently expanded their fenced-off deck area so the kids could have more outdoor space to play in safe from the dog. It is so tragic to see a dog trained to be so aggressive it can never be taken out or let near the children.

Holden Caulfield Holden Caulfield 10:25 am 16 Mar 09

ant said :

Got bitten?

No, they just shit me. I quite like “proper” dogs.

Snarky Snarky 10:07 am 16 Mar 09

Reckon you’re on to something RuffnReady @#19.

We have three yappy little dogs (all foisted on us!) and they’ll go off at anything at the drop of a hat. Interestingly, Pekingese and Shih Tsu’s are some of the oldest breeds in the world and are actually pretty closely related to wolves.

My theory’s always been that while WE see three irritating and aggravating fluffballs being a pain in arse to real dogs out on walks, THEY see themselves as mighty hunters bringing down herds of caribou on the Steppes. Sadly, reality will never penetrate the one brain cell they share between them.

JoyceStanton JoyceStanton 9:29 am 16 Mar 09

Precisely weezie! The dogs need to be in control,like mine(anytime,anywhere,anyplace)…that’s the whole point. But hey,I’m breaking the law…where no victim lies.

weeziepops weeziepops 8:55 am 16 Mar 09

Noting, of course, that dogs still need to be under control even in off lead areas. A friend of mine was abused when she objected to a dog barrelling up to her and her dogs (who were on lead) in such an area.

FC FC 8:38 am 16 Mar 09

deezagood said :

ant said :

I had a boy chihuahua who used to fight next door’s husky on a regular basis. The Husky would invade, kill our ducks, chihuahua would try to fight him, and have to go to the vet. It was quite a routine. One time it happened I was at work, but my mother reported that the dog went to where my car was usually parked, ready for his usual trip to the vet to get patched up.

And earlier boy took on a golden retriever who came onto our place once. As he launched the Ultimate Attack on the retriever, and latched onto its neck, the big dog lifted its head in surprise and as the chihuahua was lifted off his feet, the look in his eyes was priceless: “what the flap do I do now?!”. He didn’t let go though.

That is a funny story Ant – sounds as though you have had a few charactors in the past. Apparently that kid’s movie ‘Beverly Hills Chihuahua’ has put the breed on top of the ‘must have’ list!

That story cracked me up!

On a different note – If someone approaches your dog while it is on lead and goe to pet it without warning and permission and the dog snaps at them. Who’s fault is it? is it always the dogs fault?

FC FC 8:25 am 16 Mar 09

JoyceStanton said :

I take my pooch off the lead when there appears to be nobody around. I do this because the dog loves this so much,is harmless enough, and because I’m no sadist. Is it really so bad to let a dog with such a fiercely-friendly disposition,bound so freely? Oh so sorry,it’s the law. Well,back in the cage you go,doggy. It’s bad enough that law and its interpretation is/has oppressed so many humans, but can we at least maintain a civil posture towards ‘mans beast friend’?

You’d be pleasantly surprised as to how many off lead areas there are. I was.

http://www.tams.act.gov.au/live/pets/wherecanitakemydog

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