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Need tip for Cyde Mountain

By jacko121 2 December 2014 44

So in January I will be driving to Batemans Bay for the first time from Canberra. I am on my red P’s that I have only had for 2 days. I just wanna get some tips and tricks from anyone who has driven up and down the clyde before. Thanks in advance.

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Ghettosmurf87 3:44 pm 08 Dec 14

Just to add to the past few posts, I thought I’d take the novel approach of going to the source of truth and getting an answer from the horses mouth so to speak.

I emailed the NSW RTA through their enquiry line and got through the following response:

“Thank you for your email.

An interstate visiting learner or provisional licence holder must not drive/ride faster than the speed limit imposed by the issuing State and must observe the posted speed limit in NSW, where it is below the limit imposed by the licensing State.

Demerit points and penalties apply to visiting drivers who commit an offence in NSW.

It is in the driver’s best interests to comply with any condition or restriction applicable to their interstate licence when driving in NSW to avoid any dispute with police officers or insurance providers should they be involved in an accident.

Interstate drivers wanting to drive in NSW should read the Road Users’ Handbook or the Motorcycle Rider’s Handbook, as applicable. These are available from any motor registry, or via the Roads and Maritime Services website below.

http://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/roads/licence/documents-forms.html

Drivers from interstate should also comply with any condition or restriction applicable to their interstate licence when driving in NSW. For example, if an interstate licence holder is required to wear spectacles or contact lenses while driving, then he or she should also adhere to that condition or restriction while driving on NSW roads.

There are selective NSW conditions/restrictions that visiting interstate learner or provisional licence holders must comply with when driving in NSW, including:

NSW conditions/restrictions they must comply with: Applies to:

Must have a blood alcohol limit of zero (ANSWER)*All visiting learner, provisional or probationary licence drivers/riders

Cannot use any function of a mobile phone while driving/riding (ANSWER)*Visiting learner licence drivers/riders

Driver must be accompanied by an approved supervising driver (ANSWER)*Visiting learner drivers

Driver and all passengers must wear a fitted seatbelt (ANSWER)*All

For more information on interstate learner drivers using NSW roads please see the below link:

http://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/roads/licence/visiting-nsw.html

For further information please contact Service NSW on 132 213 (Monday – Friday 7am to 7pm) with your licence details to discuss with a Customer Service Representative.

Please Note: The information contained in this email is current at the time of writing.

Kind regards,

Amanda

Service NSW Customer Service”

So, as you can see, ACT Provisional License Holders are allowed to drive at the signposted speed limit in NSW in the same way that they can in the ACT.

JC 5:57 pm 05 Dec 14

rosscoact said :

switch said :

rosscoact said :

My understanding is that you have to comply with both the rules of your license and the rules of the State in which you are driving. A P plater would still be fined for exceeding the speed limit in the example you cited.

Not according to ACT Government Roadready. See the answer to the last question on http://www.roadready.act.gov.au/c/roadready?a=da&did=1002908&category=3

That’s the opposite to what SA, Qld and NSW sites say, so perhaps it might be useful to print that page and show it to the policeman when he pulls you over

That is because those states have P1 and P2 licences, the ACT it is a different class, P so the rules in NSW don’t apply. But as said above the coppers will still pull you over if you have a red P plate doing 110km/h.

As to why we have so much difference, the answer is easy. For as long as each state has their own governments differences will apply. Laws like this come about generally as knee jerk reactions to events rather than well thought out and co-ordinated law changes. Mostly to appease the masses.

JC 5:30 pm 05 Dec 14

JC said :

Your right you do have to comply with the rules of the state your driving in. HOWEVER the rules in NSW restricting some drivers to 90km/h apply specifically to holders of P1 and P2 drivers licences.

Oops didn’t right that quite right P2 in NSW is 100km/h not 90km/h, but still doesn’t apply to holders of a P licence from the ACT.

JC 5:28 pm 05 Dec 14

rosscoact said :

switch said :

dvaey said :

Expect to get pulled over, especially if you are driving with ACT numberplates and a P plate. Also, remember in NSW, the NSW licence rules apply, even if you are on an ACT licence. This includes such things as a 90km/hr limit and passenger limits.

Check out http://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/roads/licence/driver/p1.html#RulesforP1drivers

NSW rules only apply to NSW licensed P platers. ACT P platers can do the posted speed, even 110kph on the motorways in NSW etc. They only have to worry about conditions placed on their ACT licence, even when driving interstate. This obviously leads to all sorts of confusion, and sometimes interesting conversations with overly officious police.

My understanding is that you have to comply with both the rules of your license and the rules of the State in which you are driving. A P plater would still be fined for exceeding the speed limit in the example you cited.

Your right you do have to comply with the rules of the state your driving in. HOWEVER the rules in NSW restricting some drivers to 90km/h apply specifically to holders of P1 and P2 drivers licences.

ACT drivers and some other states don’t have P1, just P, so this rule doesn’t apply to ACT drivers. However I think QLD and/or maybe VIC do have seperate P1 and P2 so they have to comply.

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