Not at all safe for work (or the young) - the world of the other Tess Ryan, browsersnob.

Mael & Jazz : I don’t think the interview would be necessary. Maybe just a cigarette…afterwards!

Yes I am female and I am engaged in the discussion.

Unlike sepi, I find it quite interesting and more than a little bit entertaining.

My motto is “always be aware and informed” so I read and listen and learn (and quite often on this site, I laugh)

sepi said :

It is sexist as it assumes that all readers of this site are male.quote]

I see the females are engaged in this discussion…

This goes back to our discussion we had about television – if you don’t like it, turn it off or don’t look at it. No one is forcing you to read every single thread.

You can’t please the whole world can ya?!

I am all for sex workers and the invaluable service they provide in the Community, however, Tess sounds a bit superior to me. Which I personally find amusing given her chosen way of life.

I think she could take a leaf out of scootergals book and get a sense of humour. And perhaps take her own towel with her to appointments!

If the client doesn’t have a wife/girlfriend to fix him up in the sex department, could Tess really be sure about the cleanliness of his laundry???

And if he does have a wife, is it not bad enough that her husband is utilising Tess’s services while his wife is away and then she has to come home and wash the dirty towels! Yukky.

After reading Tess’s site, I for one will be paying closer attention to what is happening in my dirty clothes basket;)

Googling about, I found a statement from the young lady herself on an adult services review site. I deleted a couple of the more graphic lines. What’s left isn’t that graphic but obvious warnings to those who haven’t cottoned on to what the thread is about.

Seems to have a good work ethic and a srtaight forward gal. ; ) . http://www.FunInAustralia.com/forums/board/index.php?s=&showtopic=5964&view=findpost&p=37400

“An interesting post, and an observant one, and I’ll add my bit here which may help to clarify things further.

I’m not an actress.

Some ladies are, and that’s fantastic, I admire their abilities, and I’ve done doubles with some truly great actresses in the past, but I just don’t have it in me, I can’t fake it.

When someone comes to see me, before I have spent any time with them, there is an attitude that I take with me to the encounter. One person I know compared clients coming to see workers as like going to the hairdresser or the dayspa. It’s an indulgence, it’s something that’s relaxing and you expect to be the center of attention.

It’s a luxury.

I appreciate that when someone comes to see me, it’s a lot of money, if I were spending that amount of money on myself, I’d want it to be really nice, I’d want to walk away thinking about the experience, not the price.

I want the people who visit me to feel pampered, to feel indulged, but I want them to also feel that they’ve escaped from everyday life for a little while. I love that people can come to see me and feel happy when they leave. That I can improve their day and make things just that much nicer for them. That’s an amazing and wonderful thing, and I doubt many other jobs let you do that.

In short, I care very deeply about them and their experience with me.

Sometimes people behave in ways that make me cease to care like that.

It’s not a conscious decision, but those warm and caring feelings can evaporate in the face of some behaviours, which I tend to classify as “ill-mannered”.

I don’t deliberately change my service at those times, but as I said earlier, I’m not an actress, and try as I might, those people will surely pick up on my changed feelings when they have been ill-mannered. I can still do the service, but my heart isn’t involved in it anymore.

Most of what I say will be completely obvious to the people who read it, but I’m still very surprised that these things seem to happen. Obviously not all the people who visit me are ill-mannered, if they were I wouldn’t be doing this because I wouldn’t be having fun anymore.

Bathe.
Properly.

Your time doesn’t start until you come back from your shower, and the soap is as scent-free as I can find, so there’s really no excuse for coming back from the shower still smelly.

Dont be pushy.

I don’t kiss. I realise that is important for some people, but I suggest that you book another lady who is comfortable providing that.

Waiting until my eyes are closed and then diving in to kiss me, or kssing every centimetre of my face except my lips, is not respecting my boundaries. I won’t suddenly be overcome with lust and give in to what you want. I promise. However, I will lose respect for you and think that you’re a tiresome fool.

The same goes for any of the things I’ve told you I don’t provide in my service. Just don’t do them.

Don’t be nosy.

If the conversation needs a starter, I might ask if you’re local, or talk about the weather, or ask what books you may have read or something like that. I really enjoy that people open up when they come to see me in a way that people usually don’t when in other situations, however I’m aware that there are areas you may not feel comfortable discussing, so I wait until you bring them up first, if at all. So I won’t be asking what your job is (although most people do mention it), or about your wife. For example, I may ask if you have pets, but I won’t ask if you have children.

I don’t mind people asking me questions, we all talk about what we know and do, but if you ask me something I’m not comfortable discussing, and I change the subject or indicate I’d prefer not to talk about it, don’t nag me. Don’t say over and over and over: “Go on, tell me, I want to know.”

It won’t make me tell you, it will me make me uncomfortable. Would you do that with someone you’d met half an hour ago in a social situation? No? Then please don’t do it to me.

Don’t be offended when I tell you that we’re close to time.

If your time is running out, I will warn you. This is because I’d prefer that you know, and we can get to where we are going before your time runs out. I think it would be impolite of me not to warn you, because then we would just have to stop and you’d leave without finishing.

If you think you’d like to stay longer, that’s fine, but you really can’t stay another half an hour for free. It’s a time-based service, and even if I enjoy your company, I’m running a business.

These are some of the really simple, obvious things that come up sometimes, and that make me feel less warm toward the person I’m seeing.

I suppose it’s the price I pay for still caring about the people I see, that I’m also still vulnerable to those situations that may upset me to a greater or lesser extent. I’m not a hard person, I react to people depending on how they treat me, and I don’t have the gift of pretending I don’t. I like people to be polite, and friendly, and interact with me as though I’m a person.

I provide company with a real woman, with real feelings, and real reactions.

To all those guys I’ve seen who are fun, interesting, and polite, thank you for a lovely time.

For the rest….. have a think about it.

Tess”

@scootergal browsersnob = browser snob. She doesn’t like Internet Explorer.

All I’m going to say on the subject of prostitution is for a trade that has been around as long as baking bread, there are a few people hanging on this thread on mighty high horses.

Mathman said :

She probably runs Linux as well!

Wishful thinking?

For the record, If you’ve got a lazy $600-odd, there are definately worse things you could spend your money one.

She probably runs Linux as well!

MelonHead said :

And the real story is slightly buried about being a browser snob.

But she’s doing it for a moral cause:

By using one of these browsers, you are supporting web browsers which comply with the World Wide Web Consortium W3C Standards for site building, and website developers who develop for those standards, as well as encouraging other non-compliant browsers to improve their level of service.

I gather that for the freelancers it’s all about building relationships that have a cash component.

I can’t beleive she includes a section in her website on her preferred gifts!

What, so blokes pay her a few hundred bucks for her ‘service’ and then also feel the need to buy her a gift to say thanks??!

ew – anyone attempting to glamorise the sex industry would be a fool. Canberra’s clientele would not be hot, buff, well-heeled young business tycoons looking for no-strings fun. Canberra’s clientele would be largely real estate agents, footballers, old academics, drug dealers, bureaucrats and politicians, many with bad breath.

This is a real conundrum. Post angry reply and tell sepi to get a life, or not.

sepi, stop posting RUBBISH.

scootergal – you’re tops!! Enjoy the scootering and, as the campaign in Victoria, argues, wear protective gear. As a sufferer of occasional gravel rash, I can vouch for that. The times I have wiped away skin acreage were all at speeds easily achieved by any scooter.

JB well edited.

And the real story is slightly buried (see Harry Shearer’s weekly radio program for “The Buried Lead”) about being a browser snob. Maybe we can get the strain of argument onto the IE v Firefox v rest of them? Take the heat of how people earn a quid, or enjoy themselves.

Again, sepi, just get over yourself.

Maelinar i think Big Dave was suggesting that he’d do the interviewing on JB’s behalf

But BigDave, how can johnboy interview this lady (as implied by your post), but not be invited ?

I’ve got a logic gap.

johnboy, if you really need to interview this lady, my house will be available on any of the days that my wife is at work…sorry but you won’t be invited.

I’ve said I’m not speaking for all women.

And I was careful not to speak of all prostitutes either.

But I think it is a sad industry, that is best not glamourised.

Personally, I was intrigued with the section on gifts. I wonder how many of her clients arrive at an “appointment” with a present? And no, I don’t mean *that* kind of present…!

Still, you son’t know her story sepi. Don’t presume to think that ALL sex workers are victims, or all sexually abused children become sex workers. You are making huge generalisations regarding two groups of people, which is very dangerous.

Remember also sepi, no two feminists are the same.

JB, lets arrange a meeting!! I am sure Tess and I would have lots to talk about…

Research has shown that a huge proportion of sex workers suffered sexual abuse as children.
Some women may see it as empowering or whatever, but in the main it is not an industry filled with intelligent articulate and totally in control women with many other job choices and supportive families.

http://www.allacademic.com/meta/p_mla_apa_research_citation/1/5/5/9/2/p155921_index.html

I think we’ve done enough on the sex industry for a while.

I doubt she considers herself a victim.

Why is it automatically degrading for a woman to work in the s*x industry?

This lady is clearly intelligent and articulate and seems totally in control of her relationship with clients.

I argue that it is degrading to women to suggest that they are inevitably victims of the s*x industry.

Perhaps Johnboy you should try contacting this lady and seeing if she would be interested in doing an interview to explain her position?

Sorry darl – not much perv factor for me in that one?

What you mean like this one?

The material hasn’t presented itself in the last four weeks I’ve been back but be assured we aim for balance.

Front page of the Tele today has 3 young woman in bikinis and two topless (blurred out).
The only two serious articles are about Morris Iemma and the treasurer – old men in suits.

It is subtly conditioning women to accept their looks and their bodies as their greatest asset.

Jazz – it is the unbalance I object to. All sex/body related posts on RA are about women.
Although really I’d prefer none, rather than both. So I won’t be doing the article on Raider perving.

Oh damn you want the Canberra players , i do tho have the Italian rugby team.

For the record, those that have filled out their demographic details when registering show that there are about 40% female readers here (apparently that is fairly common across all internet sites not specifically targeting a gender).

Out of curiosity Sepi, would you have the same objection if this article was about a male escort?

Sepi I’m really sorry but you’re going to have to get used to pictures of fully clothed women.

We do, however, look forward to seeing the rugby league player’s bums, so long as they’re Canberra players (past or present I guess).

Well i learnt what a “incall” is.

im female and did’nt find it offensive.

Sepi, your post @17 reads like it’s the text that’s caused you the problem. While the phot is certainly “come hither” it’s hardly porn, no worse than a studio portrait IMHO

Oh, meant to add: Good form from scootergal. I’d reckon that group you’ve organised is going to be good fun. Pity I don’t own a scooter. Nor am I female…

The pic on this site, sepi? As in the one attached to this article? Bloody hell.

There is just as much splashing of bare chested and toned league players in the Tele as there are bikini clad women. We’re a society that loves beautiful people – deal with it.

I’d be very worried if young female readers made their career decisions based on the article of the day on RA or the content in the Telegraph. That said, in this day and age one would expect the female population of this country to be smart and intelligent enough to make their own decisions about what they want to do with their lives.

“There were several who didn’t like the newsreader boob post” – what, are you the oracle on what people are thinking on RA?

Sepi, if you are as sensitive as all that, your first super reader glance should have read this first sentence – TheDogz noted that the Scootergals’ spokesperson shared a name with a well set up private “escort and companion” servicing the ACT at http://www.tessryan.com. – and one would think the inclusion of the descriptor “escort and companion” would have been enough to say “stop reading, this might offend you”. If the first sentence was enough to get you going, I suggest you harden up a bit, or life will smack you fiercely.

As for Scootergal, great sense of humour, cracked me up.

I was talking about the pic on this site, which is hard to avoid, as it is right there.

And incidentally, I have also complained to the Tele in the past about their obsession with having their front page depicting women with pics of greased up bikini models, and men as successful suit wearing pollies. I dont’ think this inspires young female readers to see themselves as our future PM. I didn’t get anywhere with them either…

but surely I’m allowed to have my opinion…which I have also voiced every time opinions were sought on what we’d like to see on RA.

I considered submitting some articles on best backsides int eh Raiders etc, but I couldn’t be bothered – and I decided not to sink to your level to make a point.

And there may well be others who agree with me – there were several who didn’t like the newsreader boob post. But why would they speak up only to get harassed, in the red blooded Aussie tradition.

It is about some of the men I have dated since living in Canberra, will be looking for actors soon…

Maybe you could get the originals for cameo roles ?

Yeah, the chicken is going to get it…incidentally I am making a short film called chicken. It is in refence to that joke..”What is the difference between kinky and perverse? Kinky is the feather, perverse is the whole chicken”…

It is about some of the men I have dated since living in Canberra, will be looking for actors soon…

Real chicken or rubber?

scootergal said :

A wamr chat is an extra 50 dollars…and bring the chicken…

So only dangerous for the chicken then?

Gotta love people complaining about the content on here, yet providing none of their own.

The ‘ogling the body’ remark proves that you didn’t even bother to visit the link. There is absolutely nothing pornographic about the site referenced.

HTH HAND etc…

A wamr chat is an extra 50 dollars…and bring the chicken…

And there I was wondering if a ‘wamr chat’ was expensive or dangerous… 😉

….darn…and I used to post on here by another name…eveee…hi again all

…and my computer keyboard sucks, which in turn makes me look like I can’t spell…

I’m cofused by your comment that involved scootergals, sepi…….

For the record – Hi, my name is Teresa, but people know me as Tess. I thought of having everyone call me Teresa, but that makes me feel like a naughty CAtholic schoolgirl being called into the principals office, so very Irish Catholic of me. (oops sorry did I say something sexist?)

I don’t have a problem with this post, or that a call girl has the same name as me in the same city as me, and that it may cause some confusion. I don’t even have a problem with people wanting to see me naked (!), although I do think they go there at their own peril.

And in case anyone is interested, the aim of my post is to show that you can be empowered, strong, fun, sexy and feminist.

I enjoy long walks on the beach, scootering, and wamr chats by the fire….

Get over it Sepi. Jesus f***ing christ, do you shed a tear every time you drive through Fyshwick or Mitchell aswell?

So must you put yourself into every story you read about Sepi? How do you identify with the attempted suicide story? Or the stories about Todd Carney?

Jesus wept – this article just encourages a little more awareness of an industry that obviously thrives in Canberra. It doesn’t ask you to imagine yourself as the prostitute or the client, nor does it encourage males to ogle.

If you find it offensive, don’t read it. Your ridiculous quip about glancing at words and having to read them aside, you now know what this topic is about and will recognise it when you glance at the headline on the main page. Here’s a tip: When you glance at it and demonstrate your marvellous ability to read what you’ve glanced at – DON’T CLICK ON IT.

Every now and then sepi, the Telegraph or one of the other daily rags has pictures of supermodels etc. wearing bikinis and the like (very little else).
Is it the case now that that particular paper is sexist and they are assuming their entire readership is male?

My mum has a pretty wicked sense of humor, the kind you need to raise someone like me 😉

I”m not speaking for all women.

However,how do you imagine a woman reading about prostitution does so.

Do I idetnify ‘self as other’ and imagine myself as the potential client?
Or do I imagine myself as the prostitute?

Neither one suits me at breakfast thanks.

– What does your mum think?

sepi said :

Putting it up on this site is sexist, as it assumes that all readers are male and will enjoy ogling the body. I find it offensive to be marginalised.

While you assume all women share your attitude, which is demonstrably untrue.

There’s really not much to ogle over there anyway.

sepi said :

Putting it up on this site is sexist, as it assumes that all readers are male and will enjoy ogling the body. I find it offensive to be marginalised.

So women aren’t allowed to ogle the body too?

sepi said :

I don’t find sexism funny.

Bit like you don’t find gay-bashing funny.

If it’s done with tact, it can be funny. There’s an art to it, you’ve got to somehow express that the attitude behind the joke is stupid as well as making a clever one. Kind of like how Fat Pizza makes a lot of racist jokes that play on people stereotypes as well as making fun of those who cause them to come about. Depends on the company too.

Putting it up on this site is sexist, as it assumes that all readers are male and will enjoy ogling the body. I find it offensive to be marginalised.

I guess we don’t need to worry about asking if becoming a premium member gets you a soap box, ’cause it seems to be BYO here.

That was actually an interesting read. Insights into a world most of us live next to without ever noticing…

Except this is in no way sexist.

And many women are obviously as interested as the men to see how this all works.

Discussion of the sex industry isn’t a weekly feature, but it will happen from time to time.

I don’t find sexism funny.

Bit like you don’t find gay-bashing funny.

Have a sense of humor, sepi.

I’m sure someone shares a name with a male escort too.

It is sexist as it assumes that all readers of this site are male.

I don’t want to see women degrading themself and flaunting their bodies for sale, and I don’t come here to see that.

It also encourages revolting commentary.

I’m scootergal has felt it was really worthwhile putting up her article now.

I’m a good reader.

I glance at words, and I’ve read them. Sorry to see it takes you a few goes.

What does she mean I can’t show up drunk? How else am I going to get over the fact that I’m hiring an escort? And what’s this about conversation? I don’t want to talk to you!

No sale.

Hey sepi: Who the hell is forcing you to read it?

But does that mean you can still hire 2 or more girls in a brothel?

Her concerns sound legit *shrugs* There’s always weirdos out there, and going into peoples homes always has risks, in anything you do.

Did you know the ACT Government has an anti-threesome law? This should be a talking point for the next election.

Is there someone you can find to do a double with me? – Unfortunately it is illegal in the A.C.T. for private workers to work together, so I’m unable to provide this service within the A.C.T.

You’re a married man, Dan!

Mrs Danman said as long as it pulls the money ( which = more shoes and handbags) and it’s not emotional 🙂

Can’t see it happening though – could be a slight conflict of interest w/ regards to my current line of work

If I am visiting your home please remember it is in the best interests of both of us that there are clean sheets, no mess or garbage, dogs are out of the house and there is a clean towel available.

She really should be more selective with her Queanbeyan/Charnwood/Dunlop clients.

i’d like to see scootergal naked….

I don’t think anyone doubts you Tess.

TheDogz was certainly quick to notice the name coincidence.

If you knew what I looked like, and read what she says about herself on the site, you would know we are not the same people!!

sepi said :

IF I become a premium member do I get to screen out this sexist cr#p?

Sexual rather than sexist surely?

You certainly don’t get to threaten not to renew your subscription before you’ve actually taken one out ;-P

But I will take your thoughts on this sort of material on board.

Personally I found the insight into the concerns of a ‘working girl’ to be interesting, but I realise not everyone will.

You’re a married man, Dan!

Sepi, I’m afraid I fail to see why this post is sexist crap. Isn’t the mentioned website endorsed by the lady in question?

Or is it just another example of people on this site trying to censor something which they don’t agree with?

Evening interlude looks interesting.

Im a chef by trade – surely there is a market for ladies who want wine dine an 69 100kg 5ft8 goateed and bespeckled chef

I could undercut her prices by half and still enjoy my work 🙂

I provide a private and discreet escort service in the Canberra CBD, convenient for both those travelling to the ACT and local visitors

Aren’t they one and the same thing?

IF I become a premium member do I get to screen out this sexist cr#p?

JB,,you going to provide a review or what ???