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Perplexed by the CFMEU over the ASIO Trespasser?

By Ex Warrior - 23 March 2011 13

Can anyone explain why the CFMEU is going to ‘make sure justice is done for both him (trespasser) and his family’ regarding the crook who broke into ASIO site and fell on his arse.

Why wouldn’t the Police charge him for trespassing and the union focus on employees (who pay their wages) concerns???

[ED – There are rumours circulating, and nothing more than rumours, that the intruder was chased by security guards who then may, or may not, have been aware he was hurt and stuck down the hole before ambling elsewhere.]

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Perplexed by the CFMEU over the ASIO Trespasser?
LSWCHP 10:43 pm 23 Mar 11

Robertson said :

Clearly, the lack of a secure site indicates you should expect any information you give ASIO to be passed on to the Chinese, Indonesians, Iranians, Americans and Israelis, (and obviously Wikileaks).

This is a marked step backward from the pre-1990 situation where you could give ASIO information safe in the knowledge that it would only be passed on to the KGB and Mossad.

Now that gave me the biggest belly-laugh I’ve had in a long long time. And I think you missed the Indians and Pakistanis from the current information pipeline.

vg 5:59 pm 23 Mar 11

The first question any decent reporter should ask is what does this incident have to do with the CFMEU. Absolutely nothing. They are struggling for relevance in a world that isn’t interested in their archaic values any more. And please, don’t proffer the old ‘so workplace safety isn’t an issue anymore?’. The CFMEU genuinely cares about worker safety as much as their purely political agendas permit. Try getting them to so something for you

Buckaroo_Banzai 3:23 pm 23 Mar 11

Rawhide Kid Part3 said :

…there seems to be a very serious security hole ….

heh. zing!

Robertson 3:22 pm 23 Mar 11

Clearly, the lack of a secure site indicates you should expect any information you give ASIO to be passed on to the Chinese, Indonesians, Iranians, Americans and Israelis, (and obviously Wikileaks).

This is a marked step backward from the pre-1990 situation where you could give ASIO information safe in the knowledge that it would only be passed on to the KGB and Mossad.

troll-sniffer 1:54 pm 23 Mar 11

Just between you and me boys and girls… although the site is high security, at this stage of building there aren’t too many things a trespasser could take home and sell to the Russkys or Chinese, because it’s just a series of floor plates with some cladding already up. Anything that will be related to serious security will be locked down as ther building progresses. At the moment it’s possible to view just about as much of the building’s layout from outside the site as it would be from within.

What I don’t understand is why the 220,000 litre bulls*** holding tanks that were delivered early on and installed weren’t marked as such. Perhaps the engineers thought we’d mistake them for stormwater, air conditioning or fire prevention tanks or some such. I should have taken a photo at the time.

Apparently the Institute of Engineers has been calling for a review of Commonwealth building standards as many quantity surveyors reckon even two of those tanks won’t be enough.

Ex Warrior 1:47 pm 23 Mar 11

Point is wtf is the CFMEU supporting crooks breaking into worksites? Obviously its next to impossible to keep the joint 100% secure so ffs its nobodies fault but the stupid bastard who entered the premises without permission.
I’d be confident in saying the the people who pay the wages of the CFMEU are sick to death of people breaking into worksite and damaging/stealing their property.
I say to the CFMEU go back to your box at the Raiders with your union member funded piss and food and let the cops charge the crook. When are poeple going to be held responsible for their actions?

jimmyb 1:41 pm 23 Mar 11

“As much as he was trespassing, trespassers still have a legal right (if not a moral/ethical one) to trespass in safety. The site had a duty of care.”

Any idiot can scale a fence. And as for tresspassing in safety im sure there would have been adequate fall protection in place and the dooshbag jumped it also. If you look at the site while driving along Parksway you will notice handrails along the slab edge. These handrails are installed to stop people falling not jumping and id bet something similar would have been in place where the incident occured.
Lets all hope any burglar trying to break in through a household roof brings their own ladder that meets the Australian standards for working at heights

dtc 12:26 pm 23 Mar 11

Rawhide Kid Part3 said :

They must have bad security lighting if they (the guards) couldn’t see where the trespasser ran. Or they ran out of breath chasing the trespasser and so gave up on the chase. In any case for what ever reason there seems to be a very serious security hole with the whole project.

Its a very big site so would require quite extensive security to be 100% (or 98%) effective. You can imagine the security tender was picked on the lowest price, because we all know that saving $50k on something quite important is worth it in the context of a $1bn (or whatever) project with national security concerns. Same reason that Cth projects never get accounting/legal/engineering/specialist/etc advice.

Rawhide Kid Part3 12:13 pm 23 Mar 11

They must have bad security lighting if they (the guards) couldn’t see where the trespasser ran. Or they ran out of breath chasing the trespasser and so gave up on the chase. In any case for what ever reason there seems to be a very serious security hole with the whole project.

georgesgenitals 12:12 pm 23 Mar 11

p1 said :

I assume they will now be sweeping the site for all the bugs the Chinese, Indonesians, Iranians and Americans might have had the random drunk dude place before he fell in the hole?

They won’t have been caught. Governments (including ours) have been doing this sort of thing for a long, long time.

p1 11:51 am 23 Mar 11

I assume they will now be sweeping the site for all the bugs the Chinese, Indonesians, Iranians and Americans might have had the random drunk dude place before he fell in the hole?

georgesgenitals 11:38 am 23 Mar 11

If this is true, then I’d say it says a fair bit about the character of the CFMEU.

rescuedg 11:30 am 23 Mar 11

Pure guess work here…

I read in one of the articles on this issue that the CFMEU has had a lot of problems with safety at the site. I think their point is, how did someone manage to fall into a 9 metre hole?

As much as he was trespassing, trespassers still have a legal right (if not a moral/ethical one) to trespass in safety. The site had a duty of care.

I do agree that it does seem like an odd issue to push so it is probably much more for the benefit of the CFMEU members on-site than a moral principle of defence for trespassers.

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