Police seek Parkwood Witnesses

johnboy 13 March 2012 30

ACT Policing is calling for witnesses to an aggravated burglary at the Parkwood Egg Farm in Macgregor overnight, which has resulted in significant damage to the farm’s production equipment.

Police believe the offender(s) gained entry to the property late last night sometime between 11pm (Monday, March 12) and 6am today (Tuesday, March 13).

The criminal damage included smashed glass in the office area, cut conveyor belts, water damage to egg packaging, and smashed control equipment. Production at the facility is likely to be significantly affected as a result of the damage.

Police are also investing a link between this burglary, and the posting of an internet message and video, claiming responsibility for the offence.

Anyone who may have seen or heard any suspicious activity in the area of the facility late last night or early this morning is urged to contact Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000, or via www.act.crimestoppers.com.au. Information can be provided anonymously.

[Courtesy ACT Policing]


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p1 p1 4:22 pm 14 Mar 12

SnapperJack said :

Holden Caulfield said :

EvanJames said :

It’s pathetic and depressing when the Americans are beating us at English.

While we still have aluminium we should be okay.

… and Autumn instead of “fall”, and buoys instead of “boo-wees” 🙂

I usually confuse them by asking how they pronounce buoyant.

SnapperJack SnapperJack 3:39 pm 14 Mar 12

Holden Caulfield said :

EvanJames said :

It’s pathetic and depressing when the Americans are beating us at English.

While we still have aluminium we should be okay.

… and Autumn instead of “fall”, and buoys instead of “boo-wees” 🙂

Holden Caulfield Holden Caulfield 2:29 pm 14 Mar 12

EvanJames said :

It’s pathetic and depressing when the Americans are beating us at English.

While we still have aluminium we should be okay.

Mysteryman Mysteryman 2:20 pm 14 Mar 12

EvanJames said :

I’m noticing with some sadness that US publications are less prone to grammatical and punctuation howlers than Australian publications.

Locally, every second possessive its now sports the dreaded apostrophe. Americans seem to do this a lot less.

I see nasties like “comprised of” here, in government and other official documents, and in the media. And I keep seeing “comprised” used correctly in US publications.

It’s pathetic and depressing when the Americans are beating us at English.

Yes, because it’s clearly a competition.

p1 p1 2:09 pm 14 Mar 12

EvanJames said :

I’m noticing with some sadness that US publications are less prone to grammatical and punctuation howlers than Australian publications.

Locally, every second possessive its now sports the dreaded apostrophe. Americans seem to do this a lot less.

I see nasties like “comprised of” here, in government and other official documents, and in the media. And I keep seeing “comprised” used correctly in US publications.

It’s pathetic and depressing when the Americans are beating us at English.

While I agree that it is sad that the USA-ians might be beating us at anything, let alone this, I suggest it might be the result of different philosophies in the way children are taught and assessed in school. In North America they have a much larger focus on rote learning, being able to recite all the States, or all the planet names, etc but less of a focus on understanding concepts.

At least that was my experience 15 years ago. I kinda hoping that is one area where we are not copying the yanks.

EvanJames EvanJames 1:29 pm 14 Mar 12

I’m noticing with some sadness that US publications are less prone to grammatical and punctuation howlers than Australian publications.

Locally, every second possessive its now sports the dreaded apostrophe. Americans seem to do this a lot less.

I see nasties like “comprised of” here, in government and other official documents, and in the media. And I keep seeing “comprised” used correctly in US publications.

It’s pathetic and depressing when the Americans are beating us at English.

colourful sydney racing identity colourful sydney racing identity 12:50 pm 14 Mar 12

Jivrashia said :

Jim Jones said :

Finally: English is a living, evolving language. It’s not a ‘test’. It’s used for many things, and what is considered ‘correct’ alters over time according to usage. The ‘younger generation’ will determine what is acceptable English, not people claiming that a mediocre media release is indicative of the failing of society as a whole.

You’re more than welcome to repeat that statement when some young bloke in-corrects you on your grammar or spelling. And when it happens I hope you are gracious enough not to spit the dummy like I did.

In-corrects.

poetix poetix 12:50 pm 14 Mar 12

Jim Jones said :

Jivrashia said :

Tooks said :

A civilian writing crappy media releases is somehow indicative of the entire organisation? What a load of bollocks.

The younger workforce writing crappy written English, whether that be through a forum such as this, their own personal email, or even a media release, IS indicative of the failing of the entire society in general.

The bollocks is with the older generation who will not or cannot educate the younger generation in proper written English.

Firstly: the purpose of the media release is to lay out information in an easily understood way. While the written style isn’t reminiscent of the wondrous prose of Dickens, it hasn’t failed at doing its job in any way that I can see.

Secondly: you’re assuming that the person who wrote this is ‘young’. I don’t think anyone has provided evidence for this. It’s an assumption that says a lot about the assumer, and little else.

Finally: English is a living, evolving language. It’s not a ‘test’. It’s used for many things, and what is considered ‘correct’ alters over time according to usage. The ‘younger generation’ will determine what is acceptable English, not people claiming that a mediocre media release is indicative of the failing of society as a whole.

As someone else has noted, *you* write English with authority, so people are more likely to take what you say seriously. Of course English evolves, but that is different from making basic mistakes in punctuation and grammar that detract from what you are trying to communicate (let alone playing with the language because you know it so well). Crude errors put a red question mark next to a person’s ideas.

I think, unfortunately, that the gap between those who know the basic rules of English and those who don’t is growing. If you write English really badly, this will affect career options. More importantly, if you can’t understand written language at more than a basic level, you are cut off from reading books for anything but gleaning a few facts, and you might as well be dead. (That last little bit was a joke. Sort of.)

Jivrashia Jivrashia 12:13 pm 14 Mar 12

Jim Jones said :

Finally: English is a living, evolving language. It’s not a ‘test’. It’s used for many things, and what is considered ‘correct’ alters over time according to usage. The ‘younger generation’ will determine what is acceptable English, not people claiming that a mediocre media release is indicative of the failing of society as a whole.

You’re more than welcome to repeat that statement when some young bloke in-corrects you on your grammar or spelling. And when it happens I hope you are gracious enough not to spit the dummy like I did.

Tooks Tooks 10:56 am 14 Mar 12

Jim Jones said :

Jivrashia said :

Tooks said :

A civilian writing crappy media releases is somehow indicative of the entire organisation? What a load of bollocks.

The younger workforce writing crappy written English, whether that be through a forum such as this, their own personal email, or even a media release, IS indicative of the failing of the entire society in general.

The bollocks is with the older generation who will not or cannot educate the younger generation in proper written English.

Firstly: the purpose of the media release is to lay out information in an easily understood way. While the written style isn’t reminiscent of the wondrous prose of Dickens, it hasn’t failed at doing its job in any way that I can see.

Secondly: you’re assuming that the person who wrote this is ‘young’. I don’t think anyone has provided evidence for this. It’s an assumption that says a lot about the assumer, and little else.

Finally: English is a living, evolving language. It’s not a ‘test’. It’s used for many things, and what is considered ‘correct’ alters over time according to usage. The ‘younger generation’ will determine what is acceptable English, not people claiming that a mediocre media release is indicative of the failing of society as a whole.

Well said (and written).

Jim Jones Jim Jones 10:41 am 14 Mar 12

Jivrashia said :

Tooks said :

A civilian writing crappy media releases is somehow indicative of the entire organisation? What a load of bollocks.

The younger workforce writing crappy written English, whether that be through a forum such as this, their own personal email, or even a media release, IS indicative of the failing of the entire society in general.

The bollocks is with the older generation who will not or cannot educate the younger generation in proper written English.

Firstly: the purpose of the media release is to lay out information in an easily understood way. While the written style isn’t reminiscent of the wondrous prose of Dickens, it hasn’t failed at doing its job in any way that I can see.

Secondly: you’re assuming that the person who wrote this is ‘young’. I don’t think anyone has provided evidence for this. It’s an assumption that says a lot about the assumer, and little else.

Finally: English is a living, evolving language. It’s not a ‘test’. It’s used for many things, and what is considered ‘correct’ alters over time according to usage. The ‘younger generation’ will determine what is acceptable English, not people claiming that a mediocre media release is indicative of the failing of society as a whole.

Tooks Tooks 10:38 am 14 Mar 12

IrishPete said :

Tooks said :

Picking on the police media team is like picking on the school retard. It’s not clever, funny, interesting, or productive.

Using words like “retard” is not clever, funny, interesting, or productive. And lampooning the powerful is way different from being the school bully.

IP

You missed the point completely.

Tooks Tooks 10:37 am 14 Mar 12

Jivrashia said :

Tooks said :

A civilian writing crappy media releases is somehow indicative of the entire organisation? What a load of bollocks.

The younger workforce writing crappy written English, whether that be through a forum such as this, their own personal email, or even a media release, IS indicative of the failing of the entire society in general.

The bollocks is with the older generation who will not or cannot educate the younger generation in proper written English.

Don’t kid yourself that it’s just the younger generation who have problems with the english language.

By the way, breda was spot on with her criticism of this release – that’s not my issue. My point was, it gets old when she does it over and over and over again.

EvanJames EvanJames 10:36 am 14 Mar 12

breda said :

Often the errors are trivial, or funny (like the guy who ‘self-evacuated’ when his flat was on fire)

Ewww! I missed that one. Yuck. So that’s why firemen wear boots. Horrible visual image though.

Agree with the rest of your well-worded well-reasoned post. Why on earth does any organisation allow itself to be represented to the public by people who cannot write (or speak) competently?

Jivrashia Jivrashia 10:09 am 14 Mar 12

Tooks said :

A civilian writing crappy media releases is somehow indicative of the entire organisation? What a load of bollocks.

The younger workforce writing crappy written English, whether that be through a forum such as this, their own personal email, or even a media release, IS indicative of the failing of the entire society in general.

The bollocks is with the older generation who will not or cannot educate the younger generation in proper written English.

Tooks Tooks 8:24 am 14 Mar 12

So, you agree that the police media team is equivalent to the ‘school retard’?

Pretty much. You catch on quick.

You also see no problem with police media relations being in the hands of the ‘school retard’ (your words).

Nope, your words. I never said I don’t have a problem with it. I think many of the media releases are extremely poor. What I’m tired of reading is you constantly dissecting media releases thinking you’re very clever for doing so. It’s not clever. If you’re that worked up about it, pass your feedback on to the appropriate people.

Canberra is awash with people who can write clear, grammatical English.

Fewer than there used to be…

Firstly, there is miscommunication in individual releases. There was an example of this on RA not long ago where it was not clear when or why someone died after a car accident.

You’d have to link me to that particular release, because I don’t remember reading it. Despite the poor writing in many of these releases, I’ve never once misunderstood the message they’re trying to convey, as clumsy as that may be.

Secondly, it goes to the culture of ACT Policing – how is someone who is so demonstrably incompetent allowed to continue to publicly demonstrate their incompetence for so long?

How so? Maybe media releases are a small part of this person’s role. Perhaps the rest of their role they do at a very high standard.

What worries me is, if they are prepared to support this very public poor performance, what is happening in the areas that we can’t see? It goes to the culture of the organisation. If they are not even embarrassed about this, what does it take to embarrass them?

A civilian writing crappy media releases is somehow indicative of the entire organisation? What a load of bollocks.

breda breda 12:50 am 14 Mar 12

Tooks said:

“Picking on the police media team is like picking on the school retard. It’s not clever, funny, interesting, or productive.”
____________________________________

So, you agree that the police media team is equivalent to the ‘school retard’? You also see no problem with police media relations being in the hands of the ‘school retard’ (your words). Well done, that boy.

Canberra is awash with people who can write clear, grammatical English. I periodically poke fun at the individual in the ACT Policing media unit – let’s hope there is only one – who would not have passed my sixth class grammar test in NSW decades ago. Often the errors are trivial, or funny (like the guy who ‘self-evacuated’ when his flat was on fire) – but there is a serious point here.

Firstly, there is miscommunication in individual releases. There was an example of this on RA not long ago where it was not clear when or why someone died after a car accident.

Secondly, it goes to the culture of ACT Policing – how is someone who is so demonstrably incompetent allowed to continue to publicly demonstrate their incompetence for so long?

What worries me is, if they are prepared to support this very public poor performance, what is happening in the areas that we can’t see? It goes to the culture of the organisation. If they are not even embarrassed about this, what does it take to embarrass them?

Captain RAAF Captain RAAF 9:46 pm 13 Mar 12

North-side, nuff said, nothing to see here, move along, move along…

IrishPete IrishPete 8:52 pm 13 Mar 12

Tooks said :

Picking on the police media team is like picking on the school retard. It’s not clever, funny, interesting, or productive.

Using words like “retard” is not clever, funny, interesting, or productive. And lampooning the powerful is way different from being the school bully.

IP

Tooks Tooks 2:13 pm 13 Mar 12

breda said :

Ah, it’s our friend with the photos and videos and incriminating text messages in the media unit at work again.

See – the redundant ‘has’ in the first sentence.

Marvel at – ‘sometime’ being used instead of ‘some time’.

Chuckle at – ‘investing the link’. Or is this a new revenue raising initiative?

Kyle Sandilands is looking for a ghostwriter, BTW.

Picking on the police media team is like picking on the school retard. It’s not clever, funny, interesting, or productive.

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