Possible new slow speed precincts following community support for 40 km/h speed limit zones

miz said :

If I hear that BS word ‘vibrant’ in another media release I shall scream.

+1
Vibrant just means full of life and energy ie:crowded. It might help if you just replace every occurrence of “vibrant” with “knife crime” (which is what it means in real estate parlance).

Madam Cholet said :

As one would see by observing the 40 zones on London Circuit, they don’t actually really work without the speed humps. Even the police come out of the station and accelerate above 40. Most people speed past the police station and if the police are going in or out in their cars they don’t seem to care. It would make them a motza if they just sat outside the Cupping Room cafe with a camera.

I have actually seen them do just that. A couple of them set up behind the bus shelter below the Cupping Room, pinging people heading around London Cct. I sat and watched for a bit on my way back to the office, and was surprised how long it took them to pull someone over. A couple of times it looked like they were going to stop someone, then didn’t…until a dude in an Audi obviously made the decision for them easy!

I’m no fan of speed humps (I live not far from Spofforth St in Holt…) but at least the humps at the beginning of the 40 zones are a reminder you can’t easily ignore. The 40 zones in the city begin with tiny 40 signs, no road markings at all, in areas with plenty of other distractions aside from changing speed limits.

If I hear that BS word ‘vibrant’ in another media release I shall scream. ‘Safer’ was quite sufficient.

Speed humps slow down cars as effectively as red traffic lights stop taxis [pointing at you, Mr. stereotype taxi driver of certain ethnic origin outside the Ginninderra Medical Center at around 10:00 AM on Monday 23-6-14, lucky I can’t walk normal pace at the moment or I’d have been in a world of pain and you without a license]. Without police to action offenses, they are just a nuisance to everybody except 4×4 drivers.

> saying that they *felt* pedestrians and cyclists were safer since their introduction

Sounds like they asked a question to get the result they wanted. If you want to do a survey, make it quantitative with real accident data.

> For example, a 10 km/h decrease in speed from 50 km/h to 40 km/h can reduce the risk of death by over 50 percent.

Banning pedestrians and vehicles from city centers would reduce vehicle/pedestrian accidents by 100%

Antagonist said :

I agree with the 40 zones in these areas, but hate the speed humps.

As one would see by observing the 40 zones on London Circuit, they don’t actually really work without the speed humps. Even the police come out of the station and accelerate above 40. Most people speed past the police station and if the police are going in or out in their cars they don’t seem to care. It would make them a motza if they just sat outside the Cupping Room cafe with a camera.

Can we see the data of crashes/pedestrian incidents before and after please? I highly doubt that the reduced speed limit around the hyperdome has resulted in any change, no pedestrians hit before and apparently none after.

This government seriously needs to pay less attention to the small insignificant tasks and focus on the big issues. Cars use roads, it should be up to the pedestrian to safely make their way around them, its not difficult people!

Yeah I find the speed humps unnecessary and I just dodge them on 2 wheels and continue on at 40. Also in some of these 40 areas you’d question the need for as many cars anyway, especially out the front of the Hyperdome, which could be turned into a pedestrian mall and give the cafes a chance to be pleasant that way. Ok maybe put a taxi bay in as well.

Leon said :

A good place for a 40 km/h limit would be the short section of Northbourne Avenue from London Circuit to Barry Drive, which accounted for 13 of the 189 pedestrian injury crashes that occurred in the entire ACT from 2010 to 2012.

Other good places would be Cooyong Street, which accounted for 9 pedestrian injury crashes, and Barry Drive (7).

That would require analysing data for problem areas and then implementing a targetted response.

This is government we’re dealing with here…

A good place for a 40 km/h limit would be the short section of Northbourne Avenue from London Circuit to Barry Drive, which accounted for 13 of the 189 pedestrian injury crashes that occurred in the entire ACT from 2010 to 2012.

Other good places would be Cooyong Street, which accounted for 9 pedestrian injury crashes, and Barry Drive (7).