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Road rule reminder: You can’t stop there

By ML-585 - 28 January 2010 51

To follow SGT.BUNGERS’ lead, here are some more road rules which Canberra car drivers seem to be blissfully unaware of:

179 Stopping in a loading zone
 (1) A driver must not stop in a loading zone unless the driver is driving:
 (a) a public bus that is dropping off, or picking up, passengers; or
 (b) a truck that is dropping off, or picking up, goods; or
 (c) a vehicle that is permitted to stop in the loading zone under another law of this jurisdiction.

182 Stopping in a taxi zone
 (1) A driver must not stop in a taxi zone, unless the driver is driving a taxi.

183 Stopping in a bus zone
 (1) A driver must not stop in a bus zone unless the driver is driving a public bus (except a public bus of a kind that is not permitted to stop in the bus zone by information on or with the bus zone sign applying to the bus zone).

Note that these rules prohibit both stopping and parking.

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51 Responses to
Road rule reminder: You can’t stop there
AstralPlane 3:50 pm 29 Jan 10

pepmeup, I think you’re nearly with me. Pointing out that there are rules is boring. More interesting is discussing that in fact there are blurry lines between what is acceptable and what is not and that where that line lies is different for each of us and that part of the way society works is that we give each other a bit and we take a bit. That’s what we do.

But on commonsence I disagree entirely. Sometimes disobeying a law shows commonsense, not a lack of it. It’s just not black and white, it all depends.

For the record, disabled spots, no. Emergency access, no. Well, not yet.

Search your memory and then see if you can look me in the eye and say you have never flouted a recognised law, however small. Go on.

jasere 3:42 pm 29 Jan 10

pptvb said :

LOADING ZONE ” people, NOT “LAZY PR%$KS ” zone.

simple as that.

Clown Killer stop breaking into cars and AstralPlane get off your LAZY A$$

Rawhide Kid No 2 3:23 pm 29 Jan 10

jasere said :

I use a van for work and I don’t care you park in a loading zone I will block you in or park so close to the front or back of your car you can’t get out. The best part is when they try and have a go at me for doing it.

that’s been 5 years now, schooling one fool at a time

Er I think its illegal to block any vehicle even if that vehicle is parked illegally. You vehicle could also be booked as well as the illegally parked one. It has something to do with the required distance to be kept between parked vehicles. But then I could be wrong.

Rawhide Kid No 2 3:14 pm 29 Jan 10

AstralPlane said :

– driven through an orange light;
– driven over the speed limit;
– failed to vote;
– put your tax return in late;
– taken your dog off the lead where you shouldn’t;
– let off a firework during the wrong hours;
– jaywalked;
– ridden your bike across a pedestrian crossing; or
– put your ex housemate’s personally addressed junk mail in the bin.

Hay! That’s me! Have you been watching?

Clown Killer 3:14 pm 29 Jan 10

Hey Clown Killer is a big shame the ute owner did not catch you breaking in to his ute.

Perhaps, but I’d put a fair bet on the fact that if he did, all he would have been doing was apologising while moving his ute.

pepmeup 3:09 pm 29 Jan 10

Well done Astralplane, do you also park in disabled spots just to save a little time for yourself. Maybe the emergency access clearways as well. Just as long as you get your dvd back on time i guess its alright. I personally don’t leave my kids alone in the car for any length of time, but the fact you flout recognised laws shows your basic lack of common sense.

AstralPlane 2:41 pm 29 Jan 10

Yeah. Thanks for that. For a minute there I thought “no stopping” meant “stop when ever you want”. I must have thought it read “no not stopping”. Good to have that cleared up.

It is also pleasing to see that the people posting comments are such fabulous, perfect, law abiding citizens that they can safely jump on the old high horse and have a spray at people stopping in a loading zone. I’m assuming youse can do so because youse come from a position of never having ignored a law because youse found it, in youse particular circumstances, convenient to do so. For example, youse have never:
– driven through an orange light;
– driven over the speed limit;
– failed to vote;
– put your tax return in late;
– taken your dog off the lead where you shouldn’t;
– let off a firework during the wrong hours;
– jaywalked;
– ridden your bike across a pedestrian crossing; or
– put your ex housemate’s personally addressed junk mail in the bin.

The first two, compared to stopping in a loading zone, are particularly bad, because the put the lives of other road users at risk. But you wouldn’t have ever done those things because you’re the sort of upstanding person who doesn’t commit the much lesser offence of stopping in a loading zone when you shouldn’t.

Me, I stop in the loading zone all the time when I shouldn’t. I do it, for example, when I have four kids in the car and I can pull up, jump out and return a library book, post a letter or return a video without getting all the screaming kids out. I use your precious loading zone for about 15 seconds and if I didn’t it would take about 15 minutes to park, get all the kids out and walk across the road with them. The trade off, where you might have to wait 15 seconds in order to save me 15 minutes and the aggro, is surely one we can all live with, in the name of giving each other a break and helping each other out. Isn’t it?

Or have you never found yourself needing to take a small liberty? Never driven a bit fast when late for work? Really?

Pointing out the there are rules is a pretty boring post. There are lots of rules, we can just look them up anytime we want without having to be harangued about them here. There are much more interesting subjects like:

– whether we want to live in a society that is so strictly bound by rules that one must not break even the most minor of them (I don’t, do you?);

– who died and made jasere the enforcer and if s/he loves it so much why doesn’t s/he quit his/her job that requires a van and join the parking police?;

– if, when parked in deliberately by jasere at a loading zone, it is morally ok (or perhaps necessary) for me to add another dent to the many, many, many blemishes in my bumper bar, about which I could not give a toss, by backing into jasere’s van?

jasere 2:02 pm 29 Jan 10

Clown Killer said :

I had to break into the tossers ute i>

Hey Clown Killer is a big shame the ute owner did not catch you breaking in to his ute.
Now I have a target to look for a tosser with a scratched chrome tow ball

bd84 12:59 pm 29 Jan 10

Almost always a risk benefit and people will often just pull over in some of these locations to drop off or pick up a passenger. It is fun watching bus drivers sit on their horns to get idiots stopped in a bus stop to move.

youami 12:25 pm 29 Jan 10

Katietonia said :

As the local road rules expert, are people allowed to park their car on a road with double lines? (as in do not overtake lines)

You can park curbside provided vehicles do not have to cross the unbroken lines to pass your parked vehicle. It is an offence if they do becuase you are obstructing traffic?!

Oh and I think you will find that there are caveats to the no parking/stopping as any vehicle I believe is allowed under an emergency.

And I agree it is probably more to do with complacency and risk/benefit over ignorance.

Clown Killer 12:24 pm 29 Jan 10

“I use a van for work and I don’t care you park in a loading zone I will block you in or park so close to the front or back of your car you can’t get out.

It’s true, this happened to me in Braddon. I had to break into the tossers ute, let off the hand brake and then push his sh!tbox out of the way – the bummer of it all was that I scratched my chrome tow ball on the munters grill when I backed into him to push his car out of the way.

pptvb 11:50 am 29 Jan 10

jasere said :

I use a van for work and I don’t care you park in a loading zone I will block you in or park so close to the front or back of your car you can’t get out. The best part is when they try and have a go at me for doing it.

that’s been 5 years now, schooling one fool at a time

I do the same.
It’s more fun if you can get someone to park 10mm from their front, another 10mm from the back, then watch.
Or 10mm from their drivers side door if it is parking bays.
“LOADING ZONE ” people, NOT “LAZY PR%$KS ” zone.

Sgt.Bungers 11:06 am 29 Jan 10

You’re right, a lot of people do seem to violate these rules. However with these rules, I have a sneaking suspicion this is by choice after a quick risk/benefit analysis, rather than ignorance 🙂

Katietonia 11:03 am 29 Jan 10

As the local road rules expert, are people allowed to park their car on a road with double lines? (as in do not overtake lines)

jasere 10:27 am 29 Jan 10

I use a van for work and I don’t care you park in a loading zone I will block you in or park so close to the front or back of your car you can’t get out. The best part is when they try and have a go at me for doing it. that’s been 5 years now, schooling one fool at a time

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