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Weston fatal

By johnboy - 17 September 2013 53

ACT Policing is investigating a fatal collision which occurred in Weston this afternoon (Tuesday, September 17).

Around 1.45pm police were called to the intersection of Streeton Drive and Namatjira Drive in relation to a collision.

A man driving a black Subaru Impreza was travelling in a southerly direction along Streeton Drive and an elderly woman driving a silver Hyundai Getz was turning right onto Streeton Drive from Namatjira Drive when the cars collided.

ACT Ambulance attended the collision but unfortunately could not revive the woman and she died at the scene.

The 33-year-old man driving the Subaru Impreza was taken to The Canberra Hospital with minor injuries.

The intersection of Streeton Drive and Namatjira Drive is closed and ACT Policing is asking members of the public to avoid the area during their commute home.

ACT Policing is asking anyone who witnessed the collision and is yet to speak to police to contact Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000 or via www.act.crimestoppers.com.au. Information can be provided anonymously.

[Courtesy ACT Policing]

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Evil_Kitten 4:56 pm 19 Sep 13

Ghettosmurf87 said :

Can anyone explain to me why we are all talking about a Subaru “WRX” when the article above, and the others I have seen about it, say “Subaru Impreza”? The WRX is but one of the Impreza range and is far from the most common, being that is hardly a practical & cost effective daily driver for most people. Plenty of people out there buy the stock standard Subaru Impreza because they like the boxer engine, Subaru has at times had a good reputation for reliability and they tend to hold their re-sale value better than other comparable cars.

From looking at the images, there’s every chance that the car is just a standard Impreza with some gold rims and a rear spoiler as the front end is too crumpled in to make out whether or not the usual WRX bonnet scoop/cut out is there or not.

I thought the same thing, but I thought perhaps there were photos I hadn’t seen.

Of course as soon as speed is mentioned, it must have been a hoon car and not a standard Imprezza!

Innovation 1:52 pm 19 Sep 13

I support headlights being on whenever drivers want them on. However, drivers who don’t put their lights on until they absolutely have to, should remember that sometimes it is very difficult to see them on the road when there is another car in front or behind them with their lights on.

tim_c 1:44 pm 19 Sep 13

Special G said :

Saw this youtube video made in Canada the other day. Thought it put a different perspective on things.

http://www.caradvice.com.au/251879/anti-speeding-kills-video-goes-viral/

That video was quite well done and raised some good points, but probably not particularly relevant for the crash in Weston.

IrishPete 1:09 pm 19 Sep 13

Computer I am using won’t let me quote, but someone else has already said most of it.

I don’t go to USA libertarian organisations for my information on gun control, any more than I do on driving.

Secondly, daytime running lights are not headlights (at least, not in most cars for sale in Australia). Search google for headlights during the day and you’ll find a much different range of information, including advice from Australian motoring organisations and government departments.

Thirdly, if my dipped headlights are blinding to other road users during daylight, then they are poorly adjusted and possibly using illegally bright bulbs/globes. Because if they are blinding/dazzling/distracting during the day, what must they be like at night?

If I do it on my motorbike, then why not in my car. (The idea that motorbikes will be less visible if cars have their headlights on is, frankly, risible.)

Now stop trolling.

IP

Special G 11:59 am 19 Sep 13

Saw this youtube video made in Canada the other day. Thought it put a different perspective on things.

http://www.caradvice.com.au/251879/anti-speeding-kills-video-goes-viral/

bigfeet 9:49 am 19 Sep 13

Robertson said :

1/ I’m surprised you choose to drive around with your headlights unnecessarily on without doing the research first:
http://www.motorists.org/drl/reasons-to-oppose

The fact is that those European countries that did *not* mandate DRLs saw faster reduction in accident rates than the countries that did. Some of the countries that did, such as Bulgaria and Austria, saw increases in crash statistics. Some of those countries have, as a result of the evidence, gone so far as to ban DRLs altogether, as we should do also.

http://www-nrd.nhtsa.dot.gov/Pubs/811029.pdf
“The analysis found that DRLs have no statistically significant overall effects”
“DRLs might have unintended consequences for pedestrians and motorcyclists”

This website also has some interesting information:
http://www.lightmare.org/Pedestrian_risk.htm

2/ Insurance companies also cover aromatherapy, chiropractic, and homeopathy.
What’s your point, IP?

Just stop being silly and turn your headlights/foglights off unless needed. Anybody with even half a brain who uses their eyes must know from experience the detrimental effects on your vision caused by facing point light sources.

Well the first organization you quote wants to ban; police doing radar, speed cameras, red light cameras, random breath tests, seat belt laws, prohibiting mobile phone use, and speed bumps. So their credibility is not high.

The last group seems to be a one-man special interest group.

Only your middle reference is useful, but I think you could probably discount it as an anomaly on the basis of the dozens of other studies which contradict it.

If you look hard enough you can always find one study in any field that contradicts a hundred others that come to the same conclusion.

Ghettosmurf87 9:48 am 19 Sep 13

Can anyone explain to me why we are all talking about a Subaru “WRX” when the article above, and the others I have seen about it, say “Subaru Impreza”? The WRX is but one of the Impreza range and is far from the most common, being that is hardly a practical & cost effective daily driver for most people. Plenty of people out there buy the stock standard Subaru Impreza because they like the boxer engine, Subaru has at times had a good reputation for reliability and they tend to hold their re-sale value better than other comparable cars.

From looking at the images, there’s every chance that the car is just a standard Impreza with some gold rims and a rear spoiler as the front end is too crumpled in to make out whether or not the usual WRX bonnet scoop/cut out is there or not.

Robertson 9:03 am 19 Sep 13

IrishPete said :

Please explain how making my car more visible to other road users reduces other people’s safety.

Please also explain to the numerous government agencies and insurance companies and car clubs (like NRMA and RAC) who recommend it.

1/ I’m surprised you choose to drive around with your headlights unnecessarily on without doing the research first:
http://www.motorists.org/drl/reasons-to-oppose

The fact is that those European countries that did *not* mandate DRLs saw faster reduction in accident rates than the countries that did. Some of the countries that did, such as Bulgaria and Austria, saw increases in crash statistics. Some of those countries have, as a result of the evidence, gone so far as to ban DRLs altogether, as we should do also.

http://www-nrd.nhtsa.dot.gov/Pubs/811029.pdf
“The analysis found that DRLs have no statistically significant overall effects”
“DRLs might have unintended consequences for pedestrians and motorcyclists”

This website also has some interesting information:
http://www.lightmare.org/Pedestrian_risk.htm

2/ Insurance companies also cover aromatherapy, chiropractic, and homeopathy.
What’s your point, IP?

Just stop being silly and turn your headlights/foglights off unless needed. Anybody with even half a brain who uses their eyes must know from experience the detrimental effects on your vision caused by facing point light sources.

Spiral 8:47 am 19 Sep 13

I know a relative of the dead woman.

According to them it was her fault. She pulled out when she shouldn’t have.

Of course if the wrx was speeding that may have contributed, but it seems to be essentially user error by the Getz driver..

JC 7:28 am 19 Sep 13

laraeddy said :

First of all, thoughts and commiserations to the family and friends of the lady concerned – hope never, ever to get THAT knock on the front door.

Something else to consider. The Subaru driver received ‘minor injuries’ – which can be bad enough – while the unfortunate Getz driver lost her life. This is far from the first time I’ve heard of people having accidents in small Hyundais and coming off second best – a friend’s sister ended up with very bad injuries when her Excel got side-swiped by a Falcon and basically split in two directly under the driver’s seat, dumping her very unceremoniously onto the roadway ! Check out the ANCAP ratings for smaller, older Hyundais – not pretty.

Reckon those things are death-traps and probably shouldn’t even be on our roads. Nice, easy money for some corporation in the short-term – lots of cost for their customers for years after.

Interesting thought not disagreeing with the sentiment pre se, but did you maybe stop to think the reason the Getz driver got killed in this case was because the suburu hit her car side on, where there is no impact protection, whereas the suburu driver survived because he had his bonnet which has a crumple zone to protect him. Now don’t know of too many cars where if you got hit in the side on like that you would be protected. Sure some have side airbags and other safety features, but they can only go so far.

jayskette 9:27 pm 18 Sep 13

miz said :

A sad reminder to people who drive black, silver and blue cars – PLEASE turn on your lights in wet weather, as you are almost invisible to other drivers . . .

mmm. only black silver and blue cars should turn lights on in wet weather?!?!

IrishPete 9:07 pm 18 Sep 13

CraigT said :

c_c™ said :

I ain’t never seen a silver or blue coloured road. I’ve never had an issue seeing any colour of vehicle, even with wet windows.

I did however see someone the other day tail end a bright red car in traffic moving below 20km/h in fine conditions. Again, that pesky issue of eye sight and attention on the driver’s part.

Precisely – and the irony of attention-seekers like IrishPete driving around in conditions of unrestricted visibility with their headlights on and thereby *reducing* everybody’s safety is no great comfort to those affected by their selfish behaviour.

Please explain how making my car more visible to other road users reduces other people’s safety.

Please also explain to the numerous government agencies and insurance companies and car clubs (like NRMA and RAC) who recommend it.

IP

IrishPete 8:56 pm 18 Sep 13

Mike Bessenger said :

IrishPete said :

house_husband said :

So why is speed the first thing they mention? When will the police get over this almost Pavlovian desire to mention speed when anything bad happens on our roads?

If you were to engage in speculation over the cause I’d venture to say that the colour of the Subaru combined with poor conditions and driver inattention are the most likely causes.

Because if neither car had been moving, there wouldn’t have been accident. Hence speed is always a factor.
IP

If this were the case then why would they say ‘It’s certainly too soon to speculate if speed was a factor’

God you say some stupid things.

Or perhaps some readers are too stupid to understand the things I say?

IP

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