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Your thoughts wanted on Immigration Place

By johnboy - 3 May 2012 58

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The National Capital Authority is asking for your feedback on the successor to Immigration Bridge.

Our working title of Immigration Thing has for some reason been rejected and instead we’re being offered Immigration Place.

Immigration Place Australia (IPA), proponent of the monument, is asking the community to help identify important issues to be considered and addressed in the design brief. It is anticipated a national design competition for the monument will begin in the coming months.

IPA hope that Immigration Place will become a place for all Australians to meet and reflect on our immigrant past and the contribution migrants have made to the diversity, significance, culture and changing values of Australia.

The NCA is undertaking the consultation and assessment processes as an adviser to the Canberra National Memorials Committee (CNMC).

“IPA is required to obtain CNMC approval of their design brief before conducting a design competition,” said Gary Rake, NCA Chief Executive.

“Public comments received during the consultation period will be considered in preparing the competition guidance materials.

“The NCA has advised IPA that the design must respect and complement the existing landscape, built environment and context of the area; and take careful account of all heritage values of the area,” he said.

The CNMC has approved a site adjacent to the National Archives of Australia in the Parliamentary Zone for the development of an immigration monument.

You can let them know what you think on the NCA’s consultation page.


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58 Responses to
Your thoughts wanted on Immigration Place
Jim Jones 9:20 am 04 May 12

wildturkeycanoe said :

TERRRK ERRR JERRRRRRRRBS!!!!

HenryBG 9:04 am 04 May 12

JimmyD said :

wildturkeycanoe – crying victim doesn’t make your views any less excusable or repulsive.

Darkfalz – so I guess you despise Germans and Russians as entire groups of people, seeing as how some of them, in the past, committed murder on a truly horrendous scale? Or how about Italians and the Irish, given their penchant for being stereotyped as unsavoury people? Your argument is illogical.

None of those groups have a current record, in this country, of committing crimes are a vastly higher rate than the general community, as some other groups do, eg, New Zealand.

Immigrants from Thailand, for example, commit crimes at 20% of the rate of immigrants from New Zealand.
I hope Darkfalz will agree with me that we should shut the door on New Zealanders and invite more immigrants from Thailand instead?

JimmyD 1:33 am 04 May 12

wildturkeycanoe – crying victim doesn’t make your views any less excusable or repulsive.

Darkfalz – so I guess you despise Germans and Russians as entire groups of people, seeing as how some of them, in the past, committed murder on a truly horrendous scale? Or how about Italians and the Irish, given their penchant for being stereotyped as unsavoury people? Your argument is illogical.

HenryBG 12:52 am 04 May 12

Darkfalz said :

Pretty much. We should not be importing people who have no cultural or intellectual ability to obey our laws and contribute to our economy. Which pretty much rules out everywhere outside of Eurasia (especially Africa and the Pacific Islands).

Not “discriminating” is not being able to use facts and common sense. It’s amazing to me how bleeding heart liberals have created a world in which people are encouraged to ignore their own survival instincts. My opinion of any particular race is directly proportional to their criminality and contributions to both current and historical society.

Obviously, foreigners should be imported for *our* benefit, not for theirs. Some people seem to have trouble with this concept.

Maybe they would understand if I put it like this: I don’t send my children to a particular school in order to benefit the school, I do it to benefit my children.
On second thoughts, judging by the amount of people who retard their children by sending them to Orana, maybe they still won’t get it.

Darkfalz, sounds like you should read Charles Murray’s “Human Accomplishment”. It will do nothing whatsoever to reform you from your prejudices.

deye 12:49 am 04 May 12

Hmm this sort of thing sounds familiar, ah that’s right the welcome wall in Sydney that list migrants to this country http://welcomewall.anmm.gov.au/

Darkfalz 11:10 pm 03 May 12

wildturkeycanoe said :

By now I’ve riled up enough people, so I’ll conclude that I am a first generation Australian from immigrant parents and am also married to someone born overseas [totally different cultures from opposite sides of the planet by the way]. My parents adapted to this lifestyle, learned the language and are as fair dinkum as the next bogan. Our country is losing it’s identity and we are just a nation waiting to be divided into pieces, just like America, where we pander to the cultural needs of everyone except ourselves.
P.S. “Get outta me country, it’s full”

Pretty much. We should not be importing people who have no cultural or intellectual ability to obey our laws and contribute to our economy. Which pretty much rules out everywhere outside of Eurasia (especially Africa and the Pacific Islands).

Not “discriminating” is not being able to use facts and common sense. It’s amazing to me how bleeding heart liberals have created a world in which people are encouraged to ignore their own survival instincts. My opinion of any particular race is directly proportional to their criminality and contributions to both current and historical society.

wildturkeycanoe 10:42 pm 03 May 12

neanderthalsis said :

I think that some razor wire, burnt hulls of Indonesian fishing boats and a large “f&%k off we’re full” sign would appeal to the voting public.

Or we could make a large scale monument and call it Australia. After all, we all came here from somewhere else and the nation on a whole provides ample opportunity for us to display the contribution migrants have made to the diversity, significance, culture and changing values of Australia.

The first thing you said sounded better than the second.
Let’s display some of the recent contributions that immigrants have brought to Australia…
– Violent crimes – a lot of which are between factions/sects/religions of the countries from which these people came.
– Violent crimes – but it’s okay where we come from, it’s our right to do as our religion mandates.
– Increased burden on Australian taxpayers – Yes, now they want to pay these illegal immigrants $300 a week to survive, but we can’t house our own people living on the streets.
– Mini countries within our own – have you been to Auburn lately? I felt like I’d traveled thousands of miles away to a foreign land and didn’t feel the slightest bit at ease or at home.I couldn’t read any of the shop signs in the main street. These people form hubs where they can gradually expand their own culture at the expense of ours.

So, “changing values of Australia” eh? What kind of values are we accepting into our communities? As far as I can see from personal experience, the immigrants to Australia of late are typically keeping to their own cultures, NOT trying to get along with the rest of us white scum. All you hear about in the news is about crimes being committed and the perpetrators using their religion or ethnic upbringing as a defense. Try talking to some of these people who try to assimilate to our way of life and they have no idea how to converse in English. The ones that do know, I can’t understand because of their accent.
Yes, I sound racist, typical drunken Aussie slob who hates anyone who doesn’t like VB and Commodores. I won’t deny that I am when there is good cause, like protection of my countrymen and my family from the problems overseas that gradually creep through the cracks into our society.
No we aren’t perfect, being spawn from convicts and the like, but we held some morals these last couple hundred years that more or less protect the innocent from atrocities. But gradually our way of life is being overrun by the need to cater for every nationality in the world. Signage and instructions for almost everything now has to be in multiple languages, yet the ones reading still don’t follow the rules. Other languages used to be optional in schools. Now they are becoming something necessary, like the government is worried we’ll be overrun by our neighbors and our kids won’t be competitive in the “new world”.
By now I’ve riled up enough people, so I’ll conclude that I am a first generation Australian from immigrant parents and am also married to someone born overseas [totally different cultures from opposite sides of the planet by the way]. My parents adapted to this lifestyle, learned the language and are as fair dinkum as the next bogan. Our country is losing it’s identity and we are just a nation waiting to be divided into pieces, just like America, where we pander to the cultural needs of everyone except ourselves.
P.S. “Get outta me country, it’s full”

gooterz 9:43 pm 03 May 12

I think a huge expensive wall (that can be easily walked around would be awesome.

With lots of depth and meaning!

I like the 45 degree thing better

bikhet 2:29 pm 03 May 12

switch said :

It gives colour and purpose…

Colour and movement?

switch 1:56 pm 03 May 12

It gives colour and purpose to otherwise dull and meaningless lives.

54-11 10:57 am 03 May 12

What is it about self-appointed groups that want to put up monuments everywhere? They seem to expect governmnet to give them land, at least some of the money for their own vainglorious monuments, and automatic planning permission.

neanderthalsis 10:48 am 03 May 12

I think that some razor wire, burnt hulls of Indonesian fishing boats and a large “f&%k off we’re full” sign would appeal to the voting public.

Or we could make a large scale monument and call it Australia. After all, we all came here from somewhere else and the nation on a whole provides ample opportunity for us to display the contribution migrants have made to the diversity, significance, culture and changing values of Australia.

johnboy 10:07 am 03 May 12

it’s new!

Erg0 10:01 am 03 May 12

I have no comment on the Thing, I’m just like the isometric perspective of the Google map. How did I not know that you could do this?

nsn 9:58 am 03 May 12

Hoo-bloody-ray. Another chance for a design competition in which architectural firms can put forward pretty pictures backed up by schmaltzy statements declaring the significance of their ‘vision’ and how it has a deep cultural resonance…

The CNMC has approved a site adjacent to the National Archives of Australia in the Parliamentary Zone for the development of an immigration monument.

So a prominent location then, with lots of foot traffic [/sarcasm]. I can see this monument is going to be up there with Magna Carta Place (or whatever it is called) in terms of its significance and impact.

Don’t we have enough lifeless, bland, ignored Monuments To Important Things around the place already?

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