23% counted, 49 votes in the final Molonglo seat

johnboy said :

These are the likes of Erica Betz quote]

That Eric Abetz (may he has a uterus??)

peterh said :

Apparently, this is against the church, but when i look in my personal bible, King James edition, I can’t find the reference to it, maybe I am missing it?

Offtopic again, but let me tell you a story:
Its short, there’s death and sex and politics involved, and also divine judgement…
As reference, I’ll use the KJV for you playing along at home.

Way back when the Israelites were a tiny flyspeck tribe being oppressed by basically everyone who knew the right way to hold a sword, God decided to smite a man into ruin.
This man was Er.
Er was never mentioned earlier than Genesis 38:6 (where he gets married), and after Genesis 38:7, he is never mentioned again.
But he was wicked, so the good Lord smote him.
Unfortunately for Er’s wife Tamar, Er had no children.
So Er’s younger brother, Onan, was forced by custom and tribal practice to marry his brother’s wife Tamar, so that Tamar’s children could share Er’s genetics, and carry on the Erian line.

This is called “Levirate marriage”, which gets referred to in Genesis 38:9 as Onan’s seed “not being his own”, since it is by custom now his dead brother’s seed.
Onan decides that, having been influenced by all that porn he watched growing up, he should pull out before leaving any ‘seed’ behind, and lets it ‘spill to the earth’.
This is offensive to the Lord, so He slays Onan too. (Genesis 39:10)

This is the sin of Onan.
“Sin of Onan” has been widened over time into a phrase to describe not just not finishing what you start, but also any form of masturbation.

IVF programs offend hardline Christians, all because of Genesis 38:7-10, as they involve a man putting his efforts to uses other than direct procreative sex.

Nevermind that the whole New Testament is about Jesus coming down, and making a New Deal with God, whereby he relaxes and turns from being Big Vengeful Beard in the Sky into Friendly Uncle God Who Give Presents.

“I don’t have a uterus but have been very close…”

Is anyone else thinking of the People’s Front of Judea? Or was that the Judean People’s Front…??

Overheard said :

I don’t have a uterus but have been very close…

This has just brightened up an otherwise terrible day.
(But its still better than yesterday, and tomorrow is a new day)

I’m not accusing you of anything politikos, I’ve enjoyed your contributions.

I just want this particular piece of nastiness to end.

johnboy said :

How about you both take a deep breath and leave each other alone?

Not exactly fair when Granny’s been doing all the attacking, and all I’ve done is defend myself! Now she’s accused me of running a “FUD thing” and I’d really like to know in whose favour because I certainly haven’t had an agenda (unlike some people who haven’t held back whatsoever and made some rather nasty comments). But I defer to you, Johnboy – consider this my last post! I don’t think I want to be part of a forum where I’m accused of being a man just because I’m not a man-hater or told that I’m disseminating uncertainty and doubt because I raise questions rather than make outlandish statements about people I don’t know.

sepi said :

I respect other people’s opinions of what to do with their own bodies – their body – their Choice.

I don’t want Guilia telling me what to do with mine.

sepi, i agree with you. I am a man (last time i looked), and my views on abortion matter squat compared to the woman’s. her body, her decision. IVF is a method to enable me and my wife to have 3 kids.

Apparently, this is against the church, but when i look in my personal bible, King James edition, I can’t find the reference to it, maybe I am missing it?

“thou shalt not create a child from a woman and man outside of the woman in a test tube, put it back in the woman and endure the whole 9-months of pregnancy, painful birth process, and raise that child according to the teachings of the church.”

oh, there it isn’t.

Er, understanding that I don’t have a uterus but have been very close, even married to, engaged to, engaged with many who have….

sepi said :

I respect other people’s opinions of what to do with their own bodies – their body – their Choice.

I don’t want Guilia telling me what to do with mine.

+1.

Apart from the third tagline quote which is just erroneous, the two comments I submitted previously stand out on their own and are quite witty. At risk of bringing up old topics, you may need to stop flapping and read the comments thoroughly to get it though – albeit that is a quality that makes a good tagline.

Since I’m still awaiting the hordes of lurkers to come out of their shells, I shaln’t be continuing a discussion on the point though.

You use them, you use them. You don’t, you don’t. I was simply pointing out something that was funny. Its no skin off my nose.

Fine by me, JB.

How about you both take a deep breath and leave each other alone?

Oh, please …. Poor hard done by you. I’m not running the FUD thing – you are.

Granny said :

Crap! You’ve been pushing this barrow ever since you first posted.

What barrow?! If you’re going to jump on me every time I post something, Granny, I’ll just keep my questions and opinions to myself – or is that what you want? And I thought this was a place for discussion of the election regardless of one’s views…. Apparently not!