12 July 2005

2CC takes a pasting in the blogosphere

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Irfan Yusuf is a blogger, a former Liberal candidate for Parliament, a Sydney lawyer, quite a fan of Canberra, and also a muslim. He’s got a very interesting story online describing going on 2CC to talk about recent events involving muslims.

The questions on assimilation were really quite silly. I mean, fancy a shock jock with a slightly English accent telling a Sydney lawyer with a broad “Strayn” accent to assimilate more.

I liked this bit too:

The interview ended with a humorous monologue in which the interviewer claimed that my describing his questions as those of a “shock jock” was racist. When I suggested to him that radio talkback hosts did not constitute a race, he completely lost it.

It was truly hilarious stuff. A shock jock tries to be a smart-ass with a poor migrant unassimilated pro-terrorist follower of extremist clerics looking forward to 72 fictitious virgins. And the shock jock ends up being given a good kick and completely losing it on air. In the end, most listeners would have realised where the real extremism was coming from.

Any of our 2CC listeners know which of their “talent” was responsible?

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IMHO, 2CC jumped the shark when they axed that delightful Graeme Gilbert from the breakfast gig. That man was smarter than anyone who has ever lived*

* He was actually a complete charlie uniform november tango, but that’s the only way one stays employed for any length of time in the capital radio network. I assume Jeffries is one too – he’s been there for a while now.

Absent Diane11:34 am 14 Jul 05

Im actually suprised I haven’t been banned from my department yet

Absent Diane11:24 am 14 Jul 05

I think if we can ban any display of religious iconology and attitudes from the general public then the world would be ok…. I tried to get last christmas banned here at my department but that failed… probably had something to do with the fact that I sounded like a pyscho… but I think the socialists may have been on to something…. fire away

I’d be tipping that catholics would be called to account for the violence of the IRA.

If you ask a republican, the abglcans are to blame for the violence. That would be like asking George Dubbelya to explain the reasons behind Spetember 11.

As with most things in life it’s not about what will assuage my, or your, sense of outrage. It’s about what will actually work.

As all intelligent observers have noted, including the PM on the 7.30 report tonight, at the moment the real conflict is within muslim society. Largely as onlookers we need to encourage and help the moderate elements against the extremists.

Everytime we, as outsiders, start demanding moderates answer as if they’re extremists we conflate the two sides in their own minds, against us.

(If the moderates lose that internal conflict then, and only then, are we into a real clash of cultures which even if we win, will be diminished by the things we’ll have to do to win that total conflict.

And the Chinese will clobber “us” on the rebound.)

“Muslims” are no more (and are in many ways less) a monolithic block than Christians. If I was called, as an anglican, to account for the crimes of the IRA i’d be likely to commit violence myself against that accuser.

Apparently Irf will have a transcript up in a few days and we can make more intelligent comments.

Oooohhh Ralph, never pictured you as a Saturday night party mix type of guy…

I had the unfortunate experience of working in a shop for just under four years where it was 104.7 all day every day. Here’s a list of what they killed for me;
Thunderstruck
Hotel California
What’s the deal? (f*ckin’ hate that song anyway)
and
Anything by Pearl Jam, No Doubt, INXS and Guns N Roses; all of which I used to like.

In short, I’d be happy with ethnic slurs, arguments and hearing freaks advocating all sorts of attrocities, as long as it didn’t involve an hour of commercials and some idiot who’s balls haven’t dropped telling me I’m a dick ‘cos I don’t go down to the Royal on a Saturday night.

FYI: I’m a dick because I go to the Mawson on a Saturday night.

MIX isn’t too bad. They usually play a fair amount of 80s stuff. It tends to get a bit repetitive though. Toto’s Africa has been getting a run at least once a day.

The Saturday night party mix is good too.

Absent Diane4:08 pm 13 Jul 05

I love the voice overs – FM110 PURE GOLDEN ROCK FOR THE NEXT 3 MINUTES BEFORE WE GO INTO NON STOP ADS FOR THE NEXT HOUR…. sorry bout the caps but you get gist!!

Growling Ferret3:42 pm 13 Jul 05

Oh yeah, on the odd occasions I have heard Mike Jeffery, he has always been pretty level headed in his opinions – he aint no Stan Zemaniac.

ps – You know you are getting old when you listen to talkback….

Growling Ferret3:40 pm 13 Jul 05

The work radio is on 104.7 – if i ever hear Don’t Phunk with my Heart again, it will be too soon. And I used to like the Killers cd – until it got played to death by 104…

They still pirated the idea from commercial radio, and then put their ‘oh check out how commercial radio does it’ blurb on it..

IMHO they can’t come up with any decent stuff for themselves so they are pillaging what commercial radios are doing, renaming, repackaging and doing the same things commercial radio is doing.

May as well listen to commercial radio for that.

I’ve started listening to some weird local station since I tuned them in and some guy was thanking the cleaning lady for about 15 minutes for bringing him a mars bar.

I think it may be student radio, since students don’t generally get regular meals..

Genuine alternative content too, JJJ seems to be playing the same stuff over and over and over (a bit like commercial radio does)..

Absent Diane3:01 pm 13 Jul 05

agreed no matter how bad jjj gets it never sinks below commercial radio

Heh, should have heard the day I came into work lamenting that JJJ is getting too commercial, and then laughing at the diehard alternatives trying to justify that making prank phone calls on air when done on commercial radio is crap, but when it’s done on JJJ it’s art.

Absent Diane2:09 pm 13 Jul 05

I really do hate commercial radio – but thats kind of beside the point isn’t it!!

SG-S tks 🙂

Samuel Gordon-Stewart1:48 pm 13 Jul 05

Maelinar, as Mike Jeffreys would say “1206 on your AM dial”

Samuel

Nicely put Diane.

The problem here is that too many people are afraid to be labelled as apologists, sypathisers or racists.

I lived in a muslim country for three years, I know that muslims are not by and large nasty people. Furthermore, the arab muslims are experiencing a terrible backlash from their asian counterparts, because we can’t seem to get through one week without some extremist f*cktard screaming ‘jihad’ and kidnapping some more western f*cktards.

Now, you may be asking yourself what this comment has to do with the 2CC interview.

My answer to you is ‘absolutley nothing’. I just like the sound of my own typing.

Oh, and AD, as a wog I find your comments highly amusing.

Absent Diane12:40 pm 13 Jul 05

im a non-practicing nihilist and so are my brothers and their brothers brothers…. and no one cares about us and neither do we

None of my brothers are muslim. I feel left out.

Is there any way I can get credits because of my disadvantaged status in society because I don’t have any muslim brothers ?

Anyways…

I’m into my own religion, it’s self-serving but I find it meets my spiritual needs.

Just to keep on topic, I listen to the radio sometimes as well. Where is 2CC on the dial ?

Absent Diane, I have a crush on you now.

Absent Diane12:00 pm 13 Jul 05

one step ahead of you kimba…… but seriously you should think about what write before you say it – as it was a broad generalisation and you have to realise that towel-heads, gooks, niggers, fags and bitches all have feelings as well

That’s what I love about this debate. Anyone who says anything against our Muslim brothers are immediately labelled a “shock-jock” or a “racist. Absent Diane you know what you can do with your Kabab!!!

Absent Diane11:31 am 13 Jul 05

“And talking about Muslim businessmen in Canberra – most seem only to employ other Muslims, just look at Ali Baba. ” – Kimba that is an extremely broad (racist?) comment… and is also a crock of shit

I also heard the interview. Mr Yusuf’s rambling denial/defence of muslim terrorists was pathetic. Jeffries asked a number of pertnent questions; Yusuf could not or would not answer them. No ‘shock jockery’ there. Listen to the transcript.

Click Submit News -> Click Manage -> Find post in list -> Figure it out.

Thumper, I never had a problem editing my posts. If you view the list of Posts in the dashboard there is an edit link next to ones you have made.

I listened to Mr Yusuf’s interview. Yusuf seemed very defensive and just an apologist for the Muslim extremists.

And talking about Muslim businessmen in Canberra – most seem only to employ other Muslims, just look at Ali Baba.

The awkward phrasing, Thumper, is the phrase “it needs a concerted effort by the Muslim community to come out as one and condone the cowardly efforts of terrorist bomber”.

Presumably, you mean there should be a concerted effort by the Muslim community to refuse to condone terrorism???

Personally, I’m distrustful of anybody expecting an entire community to think as one about anything – Catholics, Anglicans, all religions have major schisms and disagreements about how they should carry on – why should Muslims be any different?

And if you think that Anglicans and Catholics don’t bomb anybody, I’ll direct you to a little place called Northern Ireland…

M’kay, I guess someone needs to refer Irf to us for clarification.

Now I’m confused, Irf said he talked to Stan Zemanak but you all keep mentioning Mike Jeffreys.

Who’s got it wrong?

Irf iz da bomb.

That was a poorly chosen figure of speech wasn’t it?

sk8erboi,

He seems a rather articulate and well written blogger though.

sorry Sam but you did.

Unless you meant “remeber, commecial radio gets it is funding from advertising”

(well you did ask)

K

Samuel Gordon-Stewart9:15 pm 12 Jul 05

Oh, and Mike Jeffreys (That is the correct spelling!) is not a shock jock. He is in fact one of the nicest people you could meet. He certainly has some strong opinions, but that is what makes talkback hosts interesting.

In case you haven’t noticed, he does a breakfast show, which means that entertainment is high on the agenda…his little jokes and bits of satire are not “shock-jock lines”. seepi, you say that mike didn’t let you friend “get a word in edgewise”, that is something I would highly doubt, perhaps he didn’t let her get a word in when he was announcing that it was time to go to an ad break….remember, commercial radio gets it’s funding from advertising.

I hope I didn’t misuse an apostrophe there.

Samuel

Samuel Gordon-Stewart9:08 pm 12 Jul 05

Maybe I’ll just repeat my rant of a comment that I left on his blog…

I have been considering wearing a large 2CC sign and your comments have now prompted me to do so. It is people like you who manage to take an entire show out of context by listening (or contributing) to five minutes of it, come away with a bad taste in their mouth because they disagree with the presenter and then declare the entire station to be of the same ilk that give talk radio a bad name.

In my opinion, the fact that people seem to be moving away from talk radio in Canberra shows an amount of ignorance and a blatant disregard for the events that go on around them. Is it any wonder that the government can get away with whatever they want when people don’t try to be informed about what their elected represetatives are doing.
ABC Local Radio and 2CC both lost ground. ABC 1.1% (Down from 19.1 to 18.0) and 2CC 0.2% (Down from 7.9 to 7.7).

Maybe if people didn’t have these stupid little rants about how they didn’t like every word that the announcer said, then more people would know what is going on around them because they wouldn’t be turned off by idiotic lunatics.

Talk radio isn’t supposed to be something where everybody agrees, it is there to promote debate and discussion about the events that are occuring, and at the same time, provide some entertainment to the listener.

Don’t worry, only 7.7% of Canberra heard you get a pasting.

Samuel

Ohh, he’s a blogger… so what? I pick my nose too and it’s about as interesting as writing a diary or keeping a blog – fascinating to the owner, and boring as batshit for everyone else.

I’d say Mike Jeffrey. I did an interview with him once where he just sent me up the whole time and didn’t listen to a word I said.
A friend also did an interview with him where he just kept repeating his shock-jock lines and didn’t let her get a word in edgewise.
He fancies himself as Canberra’s Alan Jones I think. It is only cos noone in PR listens to his station that we all get caught out going on there once – then never again.

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