Computers stolen from a Canberran college

Ntp 15 August 2007 21

ED (Ntp) – the original post’s details and all subsequent comments by that user have been removed by request of the author but due to the debate that followed I have left the the post it’s self and a basic overview of the issue up.

Sometime over last weekend a number of computers were stolen from a Canberra college CAD lab. These were new computers as of this year, and were very valuable, useful machines.

Like many schools, if not all, those machines were not insured.

If anyone has any info on this theft please contact crimestoppers on 1800 333 000

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21 Responses to Computers stolen from a Canberran college
asp asp 11:38 am 14 Aug 07

I know the police do not receive the alarm condition directly, that it goes to a private security company. But what I meant (and should have said more clearly) is the alram system should have been capable of sending the condition back to the security company, who in turn would (if they can’t get there qucikly enough) alert local police.
It’s not like its without precedent. Afterall, the fire alarms at Lanyon High go off all the time in the middle of the night, with the fire brigade there in under ten minutes. Wouldn’t it be logical to have a similar system with the security alarms? The schools are government property afterall. Theft and vandlism occure more often and therfore with more cost than fires at schools. Hopefully if the system is not already in place for security companies to contact police if government property near a police station is under threat, th facility will be introduced in the future.

I will say though that why is the ACT Government paying for private security firms to monitors schools if those irms can’t actually provide adequete responce to act on break ins? Are there any advantages to having a private firm handling security over a direct link to police?

andy andy 10:27 am 14 Aug 07

and as someone else said – even 10 minutes is plenty of time, if you have it planned out.

andy andy 10:26 am 14 Aug 07

asp – there are ways to avoid setting off motion activated alarms.

Dagget Dagget 9:58 am 14 Aug 07

Insurance of IT equipment in ACT Govt Schools is a joke. After a spate of B&E’s across various CIT site’s, and years of bun fighting with the insurer CIT finally got some reimbursment for all the stolen items. I finally got a G5 Mac back on my desk. Then the insurer decided they would not insure any IT equipment unless the whole IT Fleet had been ” data dotted ” … something about to many claims ….

VYBerlinaV8 now_with_added grunt VYBerlinaV8 now_with_added grunt 9:08 am 14 Aug 07

It’s also worth noting that many local private security companies employ staff with criminal records, and kicked up a huge fuss when the ACT govt tried to restrict people who could get a security licence to those with a clean police check. Interesting.

Thumper Thumper 8:43 am 14 Aug 07


back to base security alarms go to private security companies, not the police.

el el 8:23 am 14 Aug 07

asp – what makes you think the installed alarm system has anything to do with the police?

asp asp 11:32 pm 13 Aug 07

“Many, if not all, public schools have insurance”
That’s both true and false, Allow me to explain. All schools have building insurance which includes certain inclusions. But what pierce said is true, most insurers believe schools to be to greater risk, and therefore either won’t allow cover of contents (such as computers, cameras, science equipment) or will charge ludicrous amounts.

One big question is where were the police. Surely the school had an alarm system that is monitored and capable of informing local police. Given that the station is an eight minute walk away, officers should have been there to catch them in the act. Unless there were a dozen people doing over the college, it would take more than eight minutes to break in, much less get six bulky computers out. I know the police are under resourced, but if response times to alarms at schools aren’t good and the risk of being caught small, then there is very little to deter people from preying on schools as easy targets.

bd84 bd84 10:08 pm 13 Aug 07

schools are easy targets, normally not much security and out of the way of everything else. The scum know there will be equipment in them all they have to do is find a way in and.. bingo.. unlikely to find police anywhere here, too easy.

green_frogs_go_pop green_frogs_go_pop 9:15 pm 13 Aug 07

So THAT’S what happend next door? (I was in ‘next door’ [ED-(Ntp)] for most of today. Explains why there was suddenly teachers and stuff trying to break open the door, to see how they got in..)

pierce pierce 9:05 pm 13 Aug 07

My understanding is that a lot of insurance companies won’t insure schools because they are soon as too big a risk.

GregW GregW 9:02 pm 13 Aug 07

“It” [ED (Ntp)] is a public school yes? Given the size of the territory education system, doesn’t it make sense not having insurance?

ant ant 7:50 pm 13 Aug 07

And in all cases, they know exactly where the good stuff is, and what equipment you need to get to it. Definitely not random, or hit and hope expeditions. They knew exactly what was there and how to get to it.

fhakk fhakk 6:54 pm 13 Aug 07

Meanwhile police say 2 laptops and 56 ipods were stolen from the Apple centre at the ANU on Saturday morning. 2AM, a smash and grab operation with two guys.
Can this be labeled a crimewave yet?

asp asp 6:36 pm 13 Aug 07

I would assume it was an inside job by either current or former students. It is a disgrace. They ask why they don’t have better computer, and then when they do get better computers, some thugs steal them.

Being in small business and having to ensure computers (a workstation worth $6000), laptops worth about the same, and expensive cameras and lenses, I know how hard it is to way up the risks vs benefits of insurance. A lot of the time, it doesn’t make good financial sense to ensure.

I am however replacing my current graphics workstation and have informed the school that they can purchase it for a reasonable price if they wish.

deejay deejay 6:03 pm 13 Aug 07

For what it’s worth, I used to be an IT administrator for a school. Our insurance policy for the site had a $2500 deductible. I said, “Hang on, if we get broken into, what gets stolen first? The computers. What’s a computer worth? $1500-2500. Whose budget pays for the difference? Why, that’s my budget!” So we looked into either getting deductible-free insurance or insuring the computers separately, but our broker said it just wasn’t possible. Fortunately we didn’t lose any, but I didn’t sleep well at night.

nyssa76 nyssa76 4:21 pm 13 Aug 07

Ah the second Southside school to have computers stolen in 2 weeks….

I’m all for survellance cameras in schools – but people think it’s bad…mmmkay.

At least we’d catch the little shits in the act.

justbands justbands 3:19 pm 13 Aug 07

Not being insured is complete madness, absolute stupidity.

LG LG 3:16 pm 13 Aug 07

What’s going on with the education system where a school doesn’t think it needs to insure its expensive equipment???

Let’s introduce ‘Common Sense 101’ into the curriculum.

Maelinar Maelinar 3:12 pm 13 Aug 07

I would have thought insurance would be covered as part of the schools budget operating costs.

Maybe I’m just old school.

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