Another mass hoon bust in Belco

The so called ‘dragway’ on Dick Smiths property is actually his runway for his own private jet not a dragway like you might think. If anyone thinks buying land in ACT it is almost impossible because the goverment owns most of it and leases it out. There is actually very little privatly owned land in ACT now. As for travelling to Goulburn for our fun, Why? Why can all other states have a dragway or race track but not the national capital just because ACT people want to whinge? Why did the V8’s get the axe? Because Canberra had to whinge about it. It seems to be that if you want to live in Canberra you have to be a whinger. Just to prove this point Canberra is the only place in Australia that does anything about swooping magpies, in any other state you have to deal with it but in Canberra they keep whinging till something gets done about it. And the dead kangaroos on the road sides is te same, Canberra is the only place in Australia that does anything about them and moves them from the road side. Anywhere else you deal with it. So my point is why does Canberra have to whinge about anything and everything possible? It is the national capital and we want interstate poeple to come here but everytime something good caomes around that will do Canberra some good everyone whinges and it leaves just as fast as it comes. The way i see it, there will be no reason for people to come to Canberra soon as it will be a boring national capital that has nothing to offer.

Perhaps the ACT hoon community should make friends with Dick Smith and borrow his local drag strip?

…..and an engine i could fix myself… With parts from your lawn mower?

🙂

HG Kingswood with a 186S, triple SUs, Yella Terra head, extractors and a Monaro diff was my old chariot 😉

original HZ monaro, candy apple red – Yank specialist spray-job, chrome rocket cover, chrome exhausts, original engine, original transmission – Auto.

2nd car – (sold the first) HQ Kingswood, bench seats, column shift auto, baby p** brown colour, and an engine i could fix myself…

I have to say that I do see some benefit in these “gatherings”. That is that the younger, less experienced members of the group will get to see the older, more responsible members behaving in a controlled way. None of the drivers were drunk, hopefully if someone was being specifically dangerous then their peers would have a word with them, and if any agro started, there would be 80 people around to break it up.

Might be time for this group to boost their image by holding a get together in the centre of Civic on a friday night and advertising it to the general public.

get you 80+ mates and join a couple of labor sub branches. Hell, join the Lib’s to, take over both sides.

Seriously,

when i lived in south central charnwood, we hooned, when we bought cars. Hooning must have changed names over the years – when I was a hoon, i loved to drive really fast. burnouts and donuts were on Dirt. in a paddock.

I went to lonsdale street and checked out other people’s cars. we all had CB radios. we met in larger groups using a series of codes for locations. we never traveled convoy, we all just met up there.

parkwood road was the racing road. you would see (eyes mist over from the memories) King’s Torana Ute, Chrysler Hemi Chargers, Monaros, datsun 1200’s, Mazda RX4, RX7, Falcons, nitrous boosted jap cars, etc, etc. we were careful. we tyred off the “track, and watched from in our cars.

hoons today, not as clever or they think CB’s are old school.

BerraBoy68 said :

If it’s illegal it’s illegal. Thats all the cops or many in the general population care about.

I don’t see why if this group is so keen on burnouts they can’t build their own strip somewhere like ‘Shiny Flu’ said. Personally I can’t see the point in doing burnouts and my friends who do like shiny cars tell me its really easy to do. So where the challenge?

That said, I admit that if there is a need for such a facility and the numbers exist to make it viable than why not give it a shot. Seriously. If a need really exists it’s only fair.

However, noting the mentality of local ‘hoons’ I think such a facility would only encourage the ‘idiot element’ in doing burnouts on public streets as they’d get too excited, couldn’t wait to get to the strip or wouldn’t want to pay for their turn. So, the building of the strip could come with a condition that anybody caught doing burnouts in ACT in areas other than on the strip will have their car confiscated and sold, if not cubed.

cube em all!!

Having done a bit more research, I apologise – there isn’t technically a Dragway in Golburn, but there is the Wakefield Park motor sport facility, which to my (non-hoony) brain seems kinda similar in intent and purpose.

Pandy,

A Ridgeway resident, Murnane I think, has had it in for the Hillclimb for years. Neither he nor his fellow residents have said boo regarding the old Dragway.

simbo said :

My understanding is that there’s a perfectly functioning dragway in Golbourn – which is about an hour away (i.e., if you were in Melbourne or Sydney, it’d probably take you about that long to get there inside the city limits anyway). Why aren’t the numerous dragway enthusiasts going out there? Or are they just complaining that eveything isn’t provided directly on their doorstep?

Feel free to tell us where the Goulburn Dragway is. If you can tell me where this mythical beast exists I will be more than happy to go there.

Also, Matt in the Hat, I couldn’t give a stuff about correct grammar. The idea is to get my point across, not spend all day checking what I type. You have demonstrated what makes the people of Canberra so special (in a window licking sort of way).

I also don’t drag race my car, and it is an AWD Auto which won’t do burnouts. On the other hand I take great pride in it, which is why I meet up with people who are likeminded. If someone there chooses to do burnouts, is that my fault? Should I be targeted by the police because of them? The police are more than welcome to come and inspect my car at any time, it is parked outside my work everyday.

If you want sonic to listen to you, get you 80+ mates and join a couple of labor sub branches.

Block of 80+ members can swing a remarkable amount of power.

My understanding is that there’s a perfectly functioning dragway in Golbourn – which is about an hour away (i.e., if you were in Melbourne or Sydney, it’d probably take you about that long to get there inside the city limits anyway). Why aren’t the numerous dragway enthusiasts going out there? Or are they just complaining that eveything isn’t provided directly on their doorstep?

And kudos to those 8 families who did build it. Get it off the streets is what I’m saying. Sonic isn’t helping anyone and we all know he is about as trustworthy as an italian conman. Transparency is not exactly his governments high point either.

I’m all for a dragway in the capital, I also think parts of the lake should be opened up for motorised watersports. These things I believe would be a plus for Canberra.

skaboy12 said :

Special G said :

If there is 80 people in this group start pooling some funds and buy a piece of land, build your own burnout pad.

People keep saying this and also mention the same thing for a dragway. How many of you have actually considered whether you could ever get permission for this in a state full of NIMBYs who walk around with their heads in their asses and think their farts don’t stink.

The people of Canberra is the main reason why I love Queanbeyan so much and will never move back into the ACT. You all think you are so awesome and high and mighty.

Skaboy 12…do please learn to use educated grammar. It is “the people of Canberra “ARE” the main reason…not “IS” the main reason as the word “PEOPLE” is plural refecting more than one person and requires the use of ARE.

Thank you…… and now get on with your drag racing as long as it is not near my house. Somewhere up the Cotter would be good, preferably near a RAVINE!!!!

Best and kind regards, the Hat wearing Cat!

The dragway may be a social justice issue but don’t tell me that someone who lived next door to it wouldn’t know if it was noisy or not because I will think you’re an idiot.

Special G,
There was a group of people who did put there hands in their pockets and produced a dragway with no government money.
Then it was taken away with lies and deceit from both political parties with no compensation at all. So you tell me where the social justice is.

By the way , that venue was valued at over 2 million dollars before it closed, and all the dragway owners wanted was to get back what they created.
What would it be worth today and how much revenue has been lost to the ACT community.

Pandy – tell me who complained , I bet you you cant .

1940

Hey Special G, you suggest that people pool their money and get a facility going.

Well that is exactly what happened back in 1992. A group of 8 Canberra families mortgaged their homes and built the Dragway at absoluely no cost to the tax payer and after 10 years of running without one single noise complaint for a motorsport event from the community registered with the Governement. This is a fact that has been confirmed by the Environment Department. There was only ever one complaint lodged with Environment ACT and that was from the PA system being played late at night following an event.

Furthermore the AFP were heavily involved at the facility and even had a race team of their own, “Drivewise Program” that was sponsored by the NRMA Road Safety Trust. And the AFP have confimed that they had no complaints about the Dragway. The Air Safety authorities CASA and Airservices Australia had no complaints and gave the facility full approval. The ramblings by ant are fanciful and nothing more than the ravings of a social snob opposed to other members of society enjoying something that he is not interested in.

Anyone who suggests that the group should pool some money and get a track going must have been asleep for the past 15 years. The Dragway issue is all about social justice. We built it at no cost or inconvenience to the taxpayer and the Government wrongfully stole it away from our community. I challenge anyone on this site to mortgage their home spend 15 years of hard work and build a sporting facility in Canberra and then sit back and watch grubby politicians steal it away. Sonic got in to power on the promise to repair the social injustice and re-instate the Dragway. Sonic is a deceitful and dishonest liar because he fabricated a new noise policy so he could have an excuse to pull out of his 2001 and 2004 election promises. If anyone out there thinks that is honest and accountable Government then you must be a selfish wanker.

Ant your ramblings are totally factless and fancilfull. Tossers like you give Canberra a bad name. Get your facts right before you blurt off. And as far as reducing illegal street racing and burnouts I suggest you call the Traffic Superintendant from Blacktown traffic Branch of the NSW Police and ask him what effect Western Sydney Dragway has had on street racing and hoon behavior in Western Sydney. I have a copy of a letter from him to the Premier on this subject matter and I can tell you that you ant are totally wrong in your assumptions and ramblings.

Sydney has a Dragway smack bang in the middle of the largest population centre in Australia and sonic want allow Canberra to have one smack bang in the middle of the high noise corridor of overflying aircraft and where the suburbs are way further away than suburbs near Sydney Dragway. No wonder everyone else in Australia views Canberra and Canberrans as stuck up boring stuffy snobbs.

whether you could ever get permission for this in a state full of NIMBYs who walk around with their heads in their asses and think their farts don’t stink.

-Our sh-t don’t stink and your cars sound like lullabyes. Nice way to get people on side nob.

choco, I remember distinctly that the residents of the Ridgeway complaining abiout the dragway.

bye bye; dont come back.

Special G said :

If there is 80 people in this group start pooling some funds and buy a piece of land, build your own burnout pad.

People keep saying this and also mention the same thing for a dragway. How many of you have actually considered whether you could ever get permission for this in a state full of NIMBYs who walk around with their heads in their asses and think their farts don’t stink.

The people of Canberra is the main reason why I love Queanbeyan so much and will never move back into the ACT. You all think you are so awesome and high and mighty.

Hanging out and chatting about cars etc is fine. It’s when that line is crossed and people start doing the burnouts and racing etc..

If there is 80 people in this group start pooling some funds and buy a piece of land, build your own burnout pad.

I think people should go out and meet some of the guys and girls at these meets before they judge them.

Also, as has been already said, it seems like the cops managed to do sweet fuck all if there was so much illegal activity. So out of 82 people, none of them were drink driving and they managed to issue 6 defects, out of 80 cars. Sounds to me like a well behaved group, that takes pride in their cars and keeps them clean and legal. I see at least 5 cars a day that belong to APS staff, seniors, doctors, lawyers and general non hoon types that are defectable, many of them for serious safety issues.

My own car is defectable in the ACT but legal in NSW, hence why it is registered in NSW now that I live in NSW. Defects can be issued on any car, if they want to. I didn’t believe this until I had an AFP officer show me some defects on my wifes Ford Fiesta which was then unmodified and had less the 1000km on it.

Also, Serendipity, I was at the meet at Phillip and I could see nothing wrong with a group of friends meeting in an empty carpark. There were three Police cars in attendance and most of the time they were talking casually to people there and looking at their cars. I even had a cop comment on how good my wifes car looked, and I gave him my business card and told him to bring his car in so I could give him some quotes on work he wanted done. The only problem I saw was with an unrelated car at the food van where everyone got out of it obviously pissed and I would have picked most of them at 15 years old.

“During the 25+ years of its operation, the Canberra International Dragway received NO complaints EVER. “

Bullsh1t

Ant,
You say.-A spot out in some remote area where people aren’t affected by the noise would of course be ideal, I can’t imagine anyone objecting to that.

The old Dragway was in a spot where people werent affected by noise, which was under the high noise corridor with no complaints.

1940

Choco, my comments on the noise of the dragway, and the behaviour of the patrons of it, are based on personal experience. I lived in the district of the dragway, and experienced it first-hand. So my comments on the noise produced by the dragway, and the noise and driving of those leaving the dragway, are not “incorrect”.

And you have confirmed my first point, that people couldn’t just turn up at the dragstrip whenever the need to drag/burnout struck them: it was only open to people who satisfied various criteria at certain set times. So that wasn’t “incorrect” either.

So it doesn’t deal with the hoon element, and if the “genuine enthusiast” is currently doing this stuff on the streets, it’s hardly a point in their favour.

A spot out in some remote area where people aren’t affected by the noise would of course be ideal, I can’t imagine anyone objecting to that.

A hint: the people who kyboshed the proposed new dragway had, in many cases, experienced the noise produced by the dragway when visiting the district that housed the old dragway. They heard it, they knew exactly what to expect.

ant said :

Regarding the old, closed dragway. I know that, when it was first built, it was for locals to go play on. After the upgrade though, I think (someone in the know might like to come along with some facts) that its use was regulated, and it was mainly for offical, scheduled “meets” and a large number of commercial shows.

Incorrect. It was always open for street registered cars to compete on allocated days, or could be hired for car clubs and/or local community groups to hold sanctioned drag racing events, such as those that were put on by the Canberra Hot Rod Association for their annual Canberra Rod and Kustom Krooze.

ant said :

Certainly, after the upgrade, there was a marked increase (which steadily increased) of those incrediby noisy events that are going to make it very hard for anyone to get a dragway going in the ACT again. And, a massive increase in anti-social driving/riding to and from the dragway after these events.

Incorrect. During the 25+ years of its operation, the Canberra International Dragway received NO complaints EVER. Not for noise, patron’s driving behavior or any anti-social activity. There was never an increase in anti-social driving behavior to and from the dragway when an event was staged.

ant said :

Basically, after (and during the long events) the commercial shows, the fans evidently felt quite excited and proceeded to rev their engines (many of which were very loud already), drag each other off on the roundabouts, and screech around (and over) the roundabouts.

Incorrect. You have invented this “theory” based on the fictitious scenes from such movies as Two Lane Blacktop, American Graffiti, Hot Rod Girl Hot Rod Gang, The California Kid, etc. The truth is quite the opposite. There was never any anti-social driving behavior by patrons of the CID.

ant said :

Plainly, the dragway in no way mitigated illegal driving behaviour and in our observation and experience, actually seemed to stimulate illegal driving behaviour.

Incorrect. See above.

ant said :

I don’t understand the argument that, if there was a dragway, these people who do this kind of thing on the roads would obediently trot off to the dragway, and stop doing it on streets. When there was a dragway, those patronising it certainly did this stuff on the streets, and if teh use of the dragway is regulated and controlled by someone (the owners, the club?), then they are hardly going to say “oh I feel like taking on that GTHO over there but I cannot, as it is illegal, I shall have to contain myself until next Thursday when the meet is on”.

Again, the basis for your theory is from fiction. Those that patronise motorsports events do not suddenly become crazed motorists when they drive home. The truth is that there will always be an anti-social element in our community. Call it boisterous youth, testing their boundaries or just plain “being bad”, but it only accounts for a small percentage and it is possible that a smaller percentage find their way to the motorsport facilities to continue their anti-social behavior.

ant said :

Building a dragway is not going to affect the habits of “hoons”. And as has been shown, a dragway actually has them driving like that in the locality of a dragway. Anyone proposing a dragway site is going to have to content with this reality, and its effects on nearby residents. Who, this time around, will have a say.

You will never get rid of the hard-core “hoons”. Once they mature, they cease their hooning activity, but there will always be a fresh face to take their place. Those that are serious auto enthusiasts will look to competing legally at sanctioned events. It is these “hoons” that will leave the streets in preference to a local motorsport facility if it exists and if it is easy enough to get a run. If you look closely at the cars that get impounded, you will see that they are mostly Mum’s Hyundai with the springs removed, cheap Commodores with lowering blocks with a smattering if “poor little rich boy” Soarers and Lexus’. Having a legal, public dragway takes the genuine enthusiast off the streets. In addition, this puts pressure on the idiots to have a go,too, so that they “save face” with their mates who have chosen to test their limits on the sanctioned dragway. Nothing says “My car is faster than your car” than a timing slip from the dragway as proof.

Regarding the old, closed dragway. I know that, when it was first built, it was for locals to go play on. After the upgrade though, I think (someone in the know might like to come along with some facts) that its use was regulated, and it was mainly for offical, scheduled “meets” and a large number of commercial shows.

Certainly, after the upgrade, there was a marked increase (which steadily increased) of those incrediby noisy events that are going to make it very hard for anyone to get a dragway going in the ACT again. And, a massive increase in anti-social driving/riding to and from the dragway after these events.

Basically, after (and during the long events) the commercial shows, the fans evidently felt quite excited and proceeded to rev their engines (many of which were very loud already), drag each other off on the roundabouts, and screech around (and over) the roundabouts.

Plainly, the dragway in no way mitigated illegal driving behaviour and in our observation and experience, actually seemed to stimulate illegal driving behaviour.

I don’t understand the argument that, if there was a dragway, these people who do this kind of thing on the roads would obediently trot off to the dragway, and stop doing it on streets. When there was a dragway, those patronising it certainly did this stuff on the streets, and if teh use of the dragway is regulated and controlled by someone (the owners, the club?), then they are hardly going to say “oh I feel like taking on that GTHO over there but I cannot, as it is illegal, I shall have to contain myself until next Thursday when the meet is on”.

Building a dragway is not going to affect the habits of “hoons”. And as has been shown, a dragway actually has them driving like that in the locality of a dragway. Anyone proposing a dragway site is going to have to content with this reality, and its effects on nearby residents. Who, this time around, will have a say.

If burnouts and donuts have to happen, and it appears they do, better they do it where the only people they can injure are their own stupid selves.

Burnouts in the suburbs are just nasty – those black marks stay on the roads for years. The government should make that tyre-shredding bitumen they layed in Braddon the standard road surface in Canberra.

82 negative breath screening tests? What does that mean? They were all sober?

A large group of cars gathering with the express intent of engaging in illegal and dangerous activities. Two points for keeping the booze out of it, and two more for keeping the cars in good/legal nick, and 100 points off for the illegal and dangerous activities.
Take a leaf out of the book of some of the real warriors for change in history, and think up some creative ways of engaging in some safe and appropriate civil disobediance, and you might get a few more people on side to push hard for additional motor sport facilities in and around Canberra.
And in case you hadn’t noticed, there’s an election coming, lobby candidates, protest peacefully and visibly in public places and let the candidates know you have numbers of people who vote and think the issues an important one.
There are enough dangerous situations on the road without intentionally creating more, I don’t give a shit if it’s in the middle of the city or out in the boondocks it’s illegal. I don’t have any real interest in motor sport, I love old Holdens, and enjoy driving, I hate it when some dickhead decides it’s appropriate to do burnouts in front of my place, or as recently spotted inside an enclosed private parking area he had no right to be in, or just anywhere near me that I have to endure.
I think you guys were royally shafted over the dragway, and you’ve been royally shafted again with Stanhope’s bullshit promise to build you a dragway – “Oh, but I can’t find a good place for it anywhere so I can’t keep my promise but it’s not my fault” – funny how he can just decide the location of the power station though, or find room to build an arboretum.
But for heaven’s sake get a bit creative about how you present yourselves, you just look like a bunch of stupid young tools giving the cops an unneccessary headache at the moment. And that’s not winning you ANY friends at all.

BerraBoy68 said :

I don’t see why if this group is so keen on burnouts they can’t build their own strip somewhere like ‘Shiny Flu’ said.

surely them building their own strip would be nearly as illegal as doing the burnouts, drags etc

BerraBoy68 said :

However, noting the mentality of local ‘hoons’ I think such a facility would only encourage the ‘idiot element’ in doing burnouts on public streets as they’d get too excited, couldn’t wait to get to the strip or wouldn’t want to pay for their turn. So, the building of the strip could come with a condition that anybody caught doing burnouts in ACT in areas other than on the strip will have their car confiscated and sold, if not cubed.

yea i dont beleive that building a dragway would stop this behaviour, half of the reason people do this is for the thrill of getting away with the ilegal activity…

If it’s illegal it’s illegal. Thats all the cops or many in the general population care about.

I don’t see why if this group is so keen on burnouts they can’t build their own strip somewhere like ‘Shiny Flu’ said. Personally I can’t see the point in doing burnouts and my friends who do like shiny cars tell me its really easy to do. So where the challenge?

That said, I admit that if there is a need for such a facility and the numbers exist to make it viable than why not give it a shot. Seriously. If a need really exists it’s only fair.

However, noting the mentality of local ‘hoons’ I think such a facility would only encourage the ‘idiot element’ in doing burnouts on public streets as they’d get too excited, couldn’t wait to get to the strip or wouldn’t want to pay for their turn. So, the building of the strip could come with a condition that anybody caught doing burnouts in ACT in areas other than on the strip will have their car confiscated and sold, if not cubed.

well this is just a cry out for a dragway…

i have been part of large groups of cars doing similar things like illegal drag racing (i was with an ex boyfrend and his car, not my car) and i understand what goes on when all these cars get together – its just like a club of people with a passion – cars. and this group is formed in no way to rebel against the law

but in saying that it doesnt make it right and meeting up in such large numbers how can you expect not to get caught.
there is definetly 2 sides to this argument

I have an idea, Hoons of ACT. Instead of getting a shiny gear knob or a gold prince albert next week… collectively put the money to your own private patch of bitumen way out from anywhere. Then after you’ve done that you can get a diamond studded piercing as a celbration of your wonderfully-out-in-the-middle-of-nowhere place.

imarty said :

^^ “Just streets basically in the middle of nowhere so as not to disturb residents or risk endangering innocent bystanders”
Or get caught.

imarty:No not really. They don’t use their fuel travelling that far out just not to get caught. Maybe you should read my original post again and see that i know members in this group the police are trying to target. The relationship between the police and the members is one of respect on both sides. The police respect the fact that the group makes an effort to go so far out and the fact that the drivers are not under the influence of alcohol. While at the same time the group respects the fact that the police are just doing their job. There is no animosity towards either side.

^^ “Just streets basically in the middle of nowhere so as not to disturb residents or risk endangering innocent bystanders”
Or get caught.

Well i personally applaud the group of drivers. From reading what’s been reported and also by knowing some of the members of this particular group, I unlike some can actually appreciate the fact that the group makes the effort to go to non residential areas. Just streets basically in the middle of nowhere so as not to disturb residents or risk endangering innocent bystanders.

Of course the water coolers won’t be smoking. 😉

That’ll be smoking of a different kind, haha.

I guess our car club had better be careful at the end of the month when we go for our cruise through Canberra. Gotta watch us old VW drivers.

So they’ve not yet cottoned on to the fact the police monitor them on Thursday nights…

It’s idiotic to keep meeting in these numbers.

What’s idiotic about it?

“I just wonder if their is a law that stops such a group of hoons even associating together, like consorting.”

And what of those of us ‘hoons’ with our ‘loud and annoying’ cars that congregate peacefully hmmm??

Don’t paint us all with a wide brush.

shauno said :

Did you actually read the report? Doesn’t sound like much illegal activity going on to me.

What about the bit that said

“a large group of vehicles engaging in burnouts and other hoon-type behaviour”

This isn’t legal activity. The group were smart enough to stop doing burn outs when the police arrived so there is some hope they will grow wiser in the future and stop endangering themselves and others.

Yet another AFP cry for a dragway.

Funny how if they can not get anyone for PCA they say 82 negatives – bigger numbers sound better no matter what they represent

I wonder if they were drag racing on Stockdill ?
its a shit of a road at the best of the time but at the moment there putting the new pipe line in to the sewage works and the road has been dug up in several places !!

When will these people understand no one is impressed with there crappy noisy cars

still I guess the old saying you have to be young and stupid before you can be old and wise comes into play here

“I hope the coppers throw the book at them for there is no place on our already dangerous streets for such types and their driving.”

Did you actually read the report? Doesn’t sound like much illegal activity going on to me. Seemed quiet well behaved given the obvious provocation that happens when these people get targeted by the cops. Also they need to be praised given on both occasions not one person was tested positive for alcohol.

Also given the fact the they would have been going over the cars with a fine tooth comb not many were defected. If the cops stopped an equivalent amount of cars at random any other time I would bet they would find just as many if not more defects.

And the comment from the cops. “Sergeant Bill Evans said the most concerning fact was that many of the drivers stopped by police last night, had also been involved in last Thursday’s incident in Tharwa.”

I know its pretty much a police state these days in Aussie but come on get a grip on it I’m pretty sure its not yet illegal to congregate in public with cars or other wise yet.

I would suggest in future Guys don’t do it in the Suburbs stay out on the nice roads out there at the base of the Brindies. And if the Cops want to waste there time heading out there after you then I suggest all this does is make it easier for the real problem drink drivers to head home knowing the cops are busy elsewhere.

What’s the fun in doing circle work and other creative car stuff if no one is there to see it? I like their style.

I guess this shows one thing, that the hoons of the ACT are not that smart. I mean, blind freddy could pick what the convoy of cars was all about. I didn’t report them but saw them at Phillip and guessed what they were up to, it was that obvious. I hope the coppers throw the book at them for there is no place on our already dangerous streets for such types and their driving. How long, I wonder, before their cars start being seized and hopefully one day, crushed. I know that as a normal member of the community I deplore the black burnout marks around our streets. They are everywhere which indicates to me that hooning is such a common but unwelcome thing. If its a cry for a drag strip from the participants, you are going about the whole thing the wrong way for all you are doing is further alienating yourselves from the rest of our community. I just wonder if their is a law that stops such a group of hoons even associating together, like consorting.

for a group of over 80 drivers, that seems like bugger all offences if they were really being bad. Seems like a bit of a beat up.