APS agencies planning to compensate executives while squeezing the lower echelons …

I-filed 26 March 2009 44

Far from inflicting low pay rises on the middle management level, several APS agencies coming up to the end of the certified agreements have plans to give massive rises to EL1s – while telling the rank & file that they can’t have even a 2 per cent pay rise without “efficiency dividends”. This is because of the “issue” of EL1s coming off generous AWAs.

Some agencies are also planning to put their EL1s – already paid $95,000 via the certified agreement – on FLEXTIME. The EL levels have always been employed on the basis that they get the job done, and can have a day off in lieu if they have done a thunking job and tired themselves out a little. On flex, they’ll be able to down tools after 7 hours 21 and chalk up a day off a fortnight on a mere 8 hour day.

Now, why can’t EL1s simply decide whether they’d rather cosy up under the APS umbrella on 15 per cent super, under the CA, or go out and compete in the commercial marketplace if they’d like to earn their AWA-equivalent salary?

Could this be labelled a de facto continuation of AWAs for the self-serving APS only?

Lindsay Tanner – what do you have to say to the populace at large who are losing their jobs, about APS plans for a 10 to 15 per cent pay rise in the next year or two for the large contingent of EL1s in the Service?


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BerraBoy68 BerraBoy68 10:48 pm 30 Mar 09

As an ex-El 1 of several years standing I much preferred the freedom I had at the EL than as an APS officer, even on flex. As for the sweeping generalisations being made on staff skills and abilities across the APS, I found some people were very good at their jobs others were very bad and overpromoted. My last task in DMO was sacking two APS level staff who couldn’t do the basic tasks their job required. There were others we were bringing into the area who were better skilled for these roles.

Having left the APS three years ago to become a specialist contractor I find both Private and Publc sectors have their benefits. I can now work from home whenever I wish and have better ability to negotiate my employment conditions. In the APS I had free access to free University study. People just need to work out what they really want to do rather than just ‘falling’ into career paths, which seems to happen a lot in the APS.

Georges Georges 10:00 pm 30 Mar 09

Thanks to 11 years of empowerment, contracting-out, outsourcing and self-serving promotion by over financed senior management expedients, the APS is now really a public circus. Ricipients of favoured treatment – the crawlers who’ve grovelled and scored get out fast promotions to AG’s, Geoscience and the hapless A.C.T. Govt from under talented Federal feral agencies. Boil down the APS, start again and offer up to Australian tax payers a decent platform of public service(s).

Georges Georges 9:45 pm 30 Mar 09

Thanks to 11 years of empowerment, contracting-out, outsourcing and self-serving promotion by over financed senior management twits, the APS is a fundamental joke; ricipients of favoured treatment – the likes who’ve grovelled and scored get out quick promotions to AG’s, Geoscience & the hapless A.C.T. Govt from equally hapless Federal feral agencies. Boil down the APS, start again & give the Australian Public Service(s) a decent platform of public service(s).

sepi sepi 11:18 am 27 Mar 09

So even legal officer EL1s don’t get 105k.

Standard EL1s get under 95k at top increment (long serving).

caf caf 10:57 am 27 Mar 09

Defence actually publish their salary chart, if you want to check the claims-and-counter-claims.

sepi sepi 10:43 am 27 Mar 09

Defence EL1s get nothing like 105k.
Possibly the specialist streams like legal, medical and pr could.
But calling them EL1s is a bit disingenuous.

JC JC 2:22 am 27 Mar 09

As Utah said not all EL1’s are management and even if they were then why should they too not be entitled to flex pay? Their base pay is not much higher than the APS rated staff and they get no other extra benifits. Me thinks the orginal poster is mixing EL’s up with SES.

PM PM 1:40 am 27 Mar 09

SkipDaRoo said :

Defence, PM&C , Treasury to name a few. I think Immigration has joined the higher paying agencies and it is by no means considered a top tier department.

Nope – how can one suggest that Immigration is not a top tier department yet is a higher-paying agency? Either the comment is a mistake and/or you are suggesting Immigration doesn’t deserve what they get. Given their publicly available Collective Agreement, I believe it’s the former…

utah utah 12:30 am 27 Mar 09

You need to remember that some of those high-earning EL1s will have specialist skills, like Law or IT. The Public Service is going to be competing with private industry to hire them; it either needs to offer them a sweet deal as permanents, or hire them on a higher rate as contractors, or do without their skills. Plus, in the case of IT, a lot of the work needs to be done out of hours; if you need to shut down the network for an eight-hour maintenance window, you can’t do it during the business day. You either pay the staff involved overtime, offer them usable time-in-lieu, or again pay contractors.

SkipDaRoo SkipDaRoo 11:08 pm 26 Mar 09

Precisely.
Not only do EL1s *not* get anything like 95k, they can easily earn far more in the private sector anyway. (The ones that actually work, that is).

careful here, many agencies have EL1s bands at 87,93,98 and 105k. with the top two being performanced based.

Defence, PM&C , Treasury to name a few. I think Immigration has joined the higher paying agencies and it is by no means considered a top tier department.

SkipDaRoo SkipDaRoo 11:04 pm 26 Mar 09

All of our section left work at 5pm on dot minus 3 people, who worked till 6:45.
2 EL1’s and an EL2 , so OP get a clue and go back and appeal your obvious failure to get promoted to EL1.

realityskin realityskin 9:05 pm 26 Mar 09

Madame Workalot said :

Nice trolling, realityskin 🙂

Serious 🙂 kinda … i fake my timesheet to show 37.5 !

sepi sepi 8:28 pm 26 Mar 09

Professional levels are not really EL1s as such. And this is only one agency – my agency isn’t doing this – EL1s are on the same agreement and pay increase as everyone else where I work.

I-filed I-filed 7:06 pm 26 Mar 09

bloodnut said :

S4anta said :

Loose Brown said :

Every EL I know works like a dog.

Welcome to the joy of low level managlement ladies.

Edit for spelling and relevance.

A true I-filed old fashioned pot-stirring post.

I’d lodge my resume tommorrow if such a fanciful department existed where management were GIVING AWAY conditions.

Come with the goods or go away I-f***** – your fairytales amuse me.

I have it straight from a manager who sits at the senior table in a prominent agency. Confirmed by the union rep in same agency. And a large contingent of fed EL1s are indeed paid $95,000 top increment. My point is, regardless of whether it’s $95 (one of the professional bands) or $89,000, or $85,000, the junior staff on $50-75,000 are on notice that they will be on a tough 2% offer, while the execs are looked after despite the GFC.
Sounding like a host of self-serving EL1s responding, very happy with the situation outlined and not giving a rat’s ***** about more junior staff!

Posh Posh 4:39 pm 26 Mar 09

Realityskin – sounds like anything above 0 hours goes towards your flex. Ever thought about not even turning up for work – I’m sure no-one would miss you. You never know, you might still score a pay every fortnight.

Madame Workalot Madame Workalot 4:27 pm 26 Mar 09

Nice trolling, realityskin 🙂

OT – I just got a message from WordPress telling me I was posting comments too quickly! I guess it’s the internet’s way of telling me to think before speaking…

realityskin realityskin 3:57 pm 26 Mar 09

35 = 7 hours a day = full time !

Oh, I just take a flex day every fortnight for the sake of it.

Posh Posh 3:55 pm 26 Mar 09

Realityskin, how can you get flex when you only do 35 hour weeks? This may come as some surprise but flex is hours your have worked over and above 37.5. Also you are supposed to work at least 37.5 hrs per week so those extra 9 minutes goes towards the break between Xmas and New Year. No wonder public servants get such a bad reputation.

GB GB 3:52 pm 26 Mar 09

realityskin said :

I get more than 96k, work 35 hour weeks AND GET FLEX.

Not being in the public service, I don’t know all the jargon. But does 35 hour week mean you are part time?

realityskin realityskin 3:36 pm 26 Mar 09

I’m a full time top increment EL1 and I get more than 96k, work 35 hour weeks AND GET FLEX.

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