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APS job cuts, what’s really going to happen

By pepmeup - 8 May 2013 92

Over the past election cycle I have heard just about everything about what is going to happen to the APS, after the inevitable election of an Abbott Federal Government. In recent days Tony has said he will move APS jobs to regional areas, Big Joe has been saying for months that the coalition will cut the APS. You here numbers like 20,000 jobs from Canberra, then 12,000 jobs nationally. You here that the ALP have already cut 5,000 jobs.

I don’t work in the APS but like most others in Canberra the business I work in does rely on a strong APS to survive. I know that retail is doing it really hard in Canberra, so I guess I want to know, what is confidence like in the APS at the moment? Are people worried about job loses? Why aren’t people spending?

In closing does anyone trust that Zed will look after us after September?

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dungfungus 12:07 pm 17 May 13

Jim Jones said :

dungfungus said :

Labor bad, Liberal good.

I am glad you are starting to see the light, and I don’t mean the light on the hill.

Jim Jones 11:08 am 17 May 13

dungfungus said :

Labor bad, Liberal good.

dungfungus 10:34 am 17 May 13

pepmeup said :

It amazing just how much the federal lib and lab parties take Canberra for granted. Labor know they will win both lower house seats and one senate seat. The libs know they can only win one senate seat, so they all brag about how tough they are being on Canberra. Joe seems to have dropped the natural attrition line and now 12k is just for starters and to all happen in two years.

http://Www.canberratimes.com.au/act-news/-2jpod.html

A couple of points to be made here. Labor is the governmnet in power and has been from 2007. They are the ones currently sacking thousands. In an article by the same Noel Towell in the Canberra Times to day he says The Department of Human Services is shedding 2400 of its permanent staff. This information is contained in LABOR’S budget papers.
And what are Andrew Leigh and Gai Brodtmann doing to prevent it? Hello, I didn’t hear you?
The second point is that Hockey is not bragging about sacking 12,000 public servants and they will not go “overnight” but over 2 years.

pepmeup 9:35 am 17 May 13

It amazing just how much the federal lib and lab parties take Canberra for granted. Labor know they will win both lower house seats and one senate seat. The libs know they can only win one senate seat, so they all brag about how tough they are being on Canberra. Joe seems to have dropped the natural attrition line and now 12k is just for starters and to all happen in two years.

http://Www.canberratimes.com.au/act-news/-2jpod.html

dpm 2:28 pm 16 May 13

JessP said :

Dungfungus said:

The rest of Australia accepts it so toughen up.

This is a valid point for Canberrans to remember: the rest of Australia thinks getting rid of 12,000 is a great idea. The outrage extends as far as the border only.

Yep. It’s interesting that if a business is looking to lay off a couple of hundred staff (such as Holden or Mitsubishi, or their suppliers), there is a call for the Govt to subsidise them ASAP, whcih isn’t a bad thing:
http://www.monash.edu.au/news/show/is-supporting-the-car-industry-so-expensive-compared-to-our-heavily-subsidised-lives
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-04-22/janda-auto-subsidies-should-stay-for-now/4640226

And while it’s not exactly the same thing, it’s funny that most Australians rub their hands with glee when 12 – 20k of the pubes in Canberra are to lose their jobs. Canberra has few friends in Aus. C’est la vie!

HiddenDragon 2:01 pm 16 May 13

dungfungus said :

EvanJames said :

HiddenDragon said :

Whatever the precise details, my feeling is it will end up being at least as bad as 1996, and it worries me that there are many people in this town (including those who run the local government) who seem to be in a state of denial about what we face.

Agree, and with the end of the mining/China boom too. It’s a confluence of circumstances that will be unpleasant for Canberra, and the nation. Abbott and Hockey learned their trade from The Master, Howard, and you can see them working from his playbook. They’re not going to scare the horses, in the lead-up to the election it’ll be a paucity of policy details and let’s all be Relaxed and Comfortable.

I remember 1996 and the years following, and am watching it all unfold with great interest.

Remind us exactly what happened in 1996 because there are some commenters on this blog that were not even born then.

That is a sadly relevant point, because I fear that the harshest impact may be on younger people who, in financial terms at least, have never known truly tough, or even mildly difficult times. Aside from the likely drying up of opportunities for public sector employment, if we have a repeat of 1996, there will also be far fewer jobs in the private sector – particularly the casual/part-time jobs which tend to rely on fairly healthy levels of discretionary spending in the local economy. This may not be an “end of life as we know it” problem for families who fare OK under a new government, but for those where one or both of the parental breadwinners lose out, there will be some very rude shocks in store.

JessP 1:37 pm 16 May 13

Dungfungus said:

The rest of Australia accepts it so toughen up.

This is a valid point for Canberrans to remember: the rest of Australia thinks getting rid of 12,000 is a great idea. The outrage extends as far as the border only.

dungfungus 1:27 pm 16 May 13

EvanJames said :

HiddenDragon said :

Whatever the precise details, my feeling is it will end up being at least as bad as 1996, and it worries me that there are many people in this town (including those who run the local government) who seem to be in a state of denial about what we face.

Agree, and with the end of the mining/China boom too. It’s a confluence of circumstances that will be unpleasant for Canberra, and the nation. Abbott and Hockey learned their trade from The Master, Howard, and you can see them working from his playbook. They’re not going to scare the horses, in the lead-up to the election it’ll be a paucity of policy details and let’s all be Relaxed and Comfortable.

I remember 1996 and the years following, and am watching it all unfold with great interest.

Remind us exactly what happened in 1996 because there are some commenters on this blog that were not even born then.

EvanJames 12:43 pm 16 May 13

HiddenDragon said :

Whatever the precise details, my feeling is it will end up being at least as bad as 1996, and it worries me that there are many people in this town (including those who run the local government) who seem to be in a state of denial about what we face.

Agree, and with the end of the mining/China boom too. It’s a confluence of circumstances that will be unpleasant for Canberra, and the nation. Abbott and Hockey learned their trade from The Master, Howard, and you can see them working from his playbook. They’re not going to scare the horses, in the lead-up to the election it’ll be a paucity of policy details and let’s all be Relaxed and Comfortable.

I remember 1996 and the years following, and am watching it all unfold with great interest.

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