BoM climate report – sheesh, it’s hot in here…

astrojax 9 March 2014 314

BOM annual climate report
The bureau of meteorology’s 2013 annual climate report [http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/annual_sum/2013/AnClimSum2013_HR1.0.pdf] is now out, and shows sunny canberra had a +2.2 degrees anomaly above average temperatures, during what was australia’s hottest year on record. this was the greatest anomaly for any of our capital cities – canberra’s getting warmer more quickly. and our rainfall was some 14% below average, with fewest days with rainfall.

does this mean we’ll get a real surf beach here soon?


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Jazz Jazz 3:04 pm 09 Mar 14

That’ll do kiddies, you’ve had enough of a go at each other now.

astrojax astrojax 5:39 pm 08 Mar 14

dungfungus said :

astrojax said :

bundah said :

astrojax said :

I never said their was evidence that the parting of the Red Sea happened; I said it was chronicled.

someone writing something down does not make it a chronicle (narnia excepted).

you are a stupid man. if this is the best you can muster as an ‘argument’ i suggest you go visit monty python’s studios… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDjCqjzbvJY

Stupid is a bit harsh. Perhaps we could call him special, so fucking special, not unlike the Radiohead song….

so what the hell is he doing here? he don’t belong here…

You bloody elitist thinkers not only want to own the truth, you also want to own the website.
No wonder The RiotACT can’t attract more advertisers.

elitist thinker? wants to own the truth? jesus h christ with a stick, get a life. who the fuck are you to be making such absurd statements and wanting to be taken seriously (if not, then perhaps don’t continue to post here, find a comedy site or something. good luck with that…)?

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd 12:15 pm 08 Mar 14

dungfungus said :

astrojax said :

bundah said :

astrojax said :

I never said their was evidence that the parting of the Red Sea happened; I said it was chronicled.

someone writing something down does not make it a chronicle (narnia excepted).

you are a stupid man. if this is the best you can muster as an ‘argument’ i suggest you go visit monty python’s studios… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDjCqjzbvJY

Stupid is a bit harsh. Perhaps we could call him special, so fucking special, not unlike the Radiohead song….

so what the hell is he doing here? he don’t belong here…

You bloody elitist thinkers not only want to own the truth, you also want to own the website.
No wonder The RiotACT can’t attract more advertisers.

I think it’s got more to do with the fact that idiots like you are allowed to post their moronic, ignorant and incorrect thoughts instead of being moderated off the site.

dungfungus dungfungus 7:51 am 08 Mar 14

astrojax said :

bundah said :

astrojax said :

I never said their was evidence that the parting of the Red Sea happened; I said it was chronicled.

someone writing something down does not make it a chronicle (narnia excepted).

you are a stupid man. if this is the best you can muster as an ‘argument’ i suggest you go visit monty python’s studios… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDjCqjzbvJY

Stupid is a bit harsh. Perhaps we could call him special, so fucking special, not unlike the Radiohead song….

so what the hell is he doing here? he don’t belong here…

You bloody elitist thinkers not only want to own the truth, you also want to own the website.
No wonder The RiotACT can’t attract more advertisers.

astrojax astrojax 5:15 pm 07 Mar 14

bundah said :

astrojax said :

I never said their was evidence that the parting of the Red Sea happened; I said it was chronicled.

someone writing something down does not make it a chronicle (narnia excepted).

you are a stupid man. if this is the best you can muster as an ‘argument’ i suggest you go visit monty python’s studios… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDjCqjzbvJY

Stupid is a bit harsh. Perhaps we could call him special, so fucking special, not unlike the Radiohead song….

so what the hell is he doing here? he don’t belong here…

dungfungus dungfungus 4:58 pm 07 Mar 14

astrojax said :

I never said their was evidence that the parting of the Red Sea happened; I said it was chronicled.

someone writing something down does not make it a chronicle (narnia excepted).

you are a stupid man. if this is the best you can muster as an ‘argument’ i suggest you go visit monty python’s studios… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDjCqjzbvJY

Wow! Someone who believes lions live in the back of wardrobes is calling me a stupid man?

Walker Walker 4:38 pm 07 Mar 14

The cat did it said :

Umm, the Moses/Red Sea thing is not ‘chronicled’- there’s only the claims of the Bible. And like they say, the main problem with the Bible is that it doesn’t have a bibliography …

There is no evidence it happened. For a start, thanks to an old mistranslation, the Old Testament should refer to the ‘Reed Sea’, usually identified as Lake Timsah, not the Red Sea. Escaping across a reedy swamp doesn’t sound half as impressive, and wouldn’t have given Charlton Heston nearly as much opportunity for wooden acting.

More damaging though, is the total lack of support for any other aspect of the Passover/Exodus story- no mass enslavement, no 40 years wandering in the desert, no triumphal conquest of the homeland etc. For all the enthusiastic archaeology carried out by Bible Societies and others, no hard evidence has been found. What the evidence does point to is a much later assembling of foundation myths, when the minor-but-ambitious polity of Judea wrote itself a glowing past.

Reed Sea. Very interesting. Hadn’t heard that one. Or, the tip of the Red Sea and a tsunami sucked the water out – actually that would explain the subsequent crash onto the chariots, just for conjecture, it’s a nice fit, and would amplify wonderfully into the v-shape. (But no geological evidence?) In any case, it’s not exactly chronicled as such.

Not sure the rest of it. The main pyramids probably not by slaves, but slaves were not uncommon. Same with war or other disasters that give rise to people fleeing. Plagues and so on, crop failures… sounds like an ecological or financial melt down to me. Who knows what happened.

I only brought it up to make dungfungus focus on how long-ago information can be obtained and with what accuracy and so on, and then get him to quit queue jumping his other disorderly ideologies onto this here climate thread. (It triggered a mess, the topics intertwined in the end).

And, I wanted to know how bible characters in these situations might square up with a Christian view.

I do not know what the motive was for dungfungus to have me point out the religion of the people in the Moses story, but I handed it back. And left it pretty much at that.

I was trying to plug this into that and see if it sparks one way or another. But just can’t tell, with some, how it works, why they persist with a completely untenable stand. Probably just a bunch of mischief, dust kicking, etc. Some strange stuff, too.
Ah well. It’s been fun. Sort of.

bundah bundah 3:35 pm 07 Mar 14

astrojax said :

I never said their was evidence that the parting of the Red Sea happened; I said it was chronicled.

someone writing something down does not make it a chronicle (narnia excepted).

you are a stupid man. if this is the best you can muster as an ‘argument’ i suggest you go visit monty python’s studios… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDjCqjzbvJY

Stupid is a bit harsh. Perhaps we could call him special, so fucking special, not unlike the Radiohead song….

astrojax astrojax 3:09 pm 07 Mar 14

I never said their was evidence that the parting of the Red Sea happened; I said it was chronicled.

someone writing something down does not make it a chronicle (narnia excepted).

you are a stupid man. if this is the best you can muster as an ‘argument’ i suggest you go visit monty python’s studios… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDjCqjzbvJY

dungfungus dungfungus 12:46 pm 07 Mar 14

The cat did it said :

Umm, the Moses/Red Sea thing is not ‘chronicled’- there’s only the claims of the Bible. And like they say, the main problem with the Bible is that it doesn’t have a bibliography …

There is no evidence it happened. For a start, thanks to an old mistranslation, the Old Testament should refer to the ‘Reed Sea’, usually identified as Lake Timsah, not the Red Sea. Escaping across a reedy swamp doesn’t sound half as impressive, and wouldn’t have given Charlton Heston nearly as much opportunity for wooden acting.

More damaging though, is the total lack of support for any other aspect of the Passover/Exodus story- no mass enslavement, no 40 years wandering in the desert, no triumphal conquest of the homeland etc. For all the enthusiastic archaeology carried out by Bible Societies and others, no hard evidence has been found. What the evidence does point to is a much later assembling of foundation myths, when the minor-but-ambitious polity of Judea wrote itself a glowing past.

I never said their was evidence that the parting of the Red Sea happened; I said it was chronicled. The bible as I understand it was based on ancient scrolls and maybe scrolling is different to chronicling (or chroniclising?).
Your expanded take on the lack of support about events in being a “much later assembling of myths” has a stong parallel with the flawed concept of mad made climate change and just as Hollywood made a fictional movie about the parting of the Red Sea and the exodus, Al Gore also made a “dodgy documentary” about “something inconvenient”.
I think the Hollywood movie has won more awards than the other one. It has more credibility as well.

The cat did it The cat did it 1:05 am 07 Mar 14

Umm, the Moses/Red Sea thing is not ‘chronicled’- there’s only the claims of the Bible. And like they say, the main problem with the Bible is that it doesn’t have a bibliography …

There is no evidence it happened. For a start, thanks to an old mistranslation, the Old Testament should refer to the ‘Reed Sea’, usually identified as Lake Timsah, not the Red Sea. Escaping across a reedy swamp doesn’t sound half as impressive, and wouldn’t have given Charlton Heston nearly as much opportunity for wooden acting.

More damaging though, is the total lack of support for any other aspect of the Passover/Exodus story- no mass enslavement, no 40 years wandering in the desert, no triumphal conquest of the homeland etc. For all the enthusiastic archaeology carried out by Bible Societies and others, no hard evidence has been found. What the evidence does point to is a much later assembling of foundation myths, when the minor-but-ambitious polity of Judea wrote itself a glowing past.

dungfungus dungfungus 10:27 pm 06 Mar 14

astrojax said :

dungfungus said :

Nylex_Clock said :

http://www.skepticalscience.com/graphics/Managing_Risk_med.jpg

Ahh, “Risk Management”.
Another scam invented by people who have never run a business but claim a business must have a risk management plan, a strategic plan etc etc.
The only real “risk management” I have been involved in was when I ran a medium size business. I ensured the fridge was full of cold beer on Friday morning so the Friday evening piss-up could proceed seamlessly.

past tense; so why did this ‘medium sized’ business fail – unmanaged risks? [or are you living the life of riley on the proceeds from the sale of same..?]

Please read what I said. There is nothing in what I said to indicate the business failed.

CraigT CraigT 10:00 pm 06 Mar 14

dungfungus said :

Ahh, “Risk Management”.
Another scam invented by people who have never run a business but claim a business must have a risk management plan, a strategic plan etc etc.
The only real “risk management” I have been involved in was when I ran a medium size business. I ensured the fridge was full of cold beer on Friday morning so the Friday evening piss-up could proceed seamlessly.

Now we can be sure that you are not really a retarded denialist but are just trolling to take the piss.

Risk management is an integral part of most activities, and we all do it every day. Professionally, many of us are involved in serious risk management with serious consequences on a daily basis.

If somebody says, “There’s a chance the green paint in your bedroom is exuding lead-arsenic gas at night, you will investigate,
a. the credibility of the report
and
b. the level of the risk
before deciding whether to ignore or act on the warning.

In the case of cl9imatge change, this has been going on for over 150 years:
– Greenhouse gases are a real thing.
– Human activity is adding greenhouse gases to our atmosphere
– it has been established with a fair degree of satisfaction that CO2 (to name but one of the greenhouse gases we are releasing with gay abandon), if we double it, will cause a 3-degree rise in global temperature.
– that 3-degree rise will not be evenly distributed. You’ll get not much rise at the tropics, and more like 8 degrees near the poles.
– the increased heat in the biosphere will alter climate
– the increased heat is now measurable
– the altered climate is now measurable
– polar ice is vanishing quickly
– sea levels are rising much faster than the scientists predicted in the ’80s & ’90s.

Given all these unassailable facts, risk management should entail many varied debates, but one standpoint which is utterly indefensible is, “do nothing”.

Anybody advocating we “do nothing” is either an abject moron, or a devious, calculating psychopath intent on seeing that people and economies suffer.

astrojax astrojax 9:54 pm 06 Mar 14

dungfungus said :

Nylex_Clock said :

http://www.skepticalscience.com/graphics/Managing_Risk_med.jpg

Ahh, “Risk Management”.
Another scam invented by people who have never run a business but claim a business must have a risk management plan, a strategic plan etc etc.
The only real “risk management” I have been involved in was when I ran a medium size business. I ensured the fridge was full of cold beer on Friday morning so the Friday evening piss-up could proceed seamlessly.

past tense; so why did this ‘medium sized’ business fail – unmanaged risks? [or are you living the life of riley on the proceeds from the sale of same..?]

dungfungus dungfungus 6:53 pm 06 Mar 14

Nylex_Clock said :

http://www.skepticalscience.com/graphics/Managing_Risk_med.jpg

Ahh, “Risk Management”.
Another scam invented by people who have never run a business but claim a business must have a risk management plan, a strategic plan etc etc.
The only real “risk management” I have been involved in was when I ran a medium size business. I ensured the fridge was full of cold beer on Friday morning so the Friday evening piss-up could proceed seamlessly.

Walker Walker 4:43 pm 06 Mar 14

Nylex_Clock said :

http://www.skepticalscience.com/graphics/Managing_Risk_med.jpg

That’s a good and thorough site. plenty to find there, plenty of myth busting and all the resources, links, the whole lot. Another good one, angled more for the layman and for brevity, and some fun, is “climatebites.org”

Walker Walker 3:05 pm 06 Mar 14

dungfungus said :

Walker said :

dungfungus said :

Walker said :

dungfungus said :

astrojax said :

dungfungus said :

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

dungfungus said :

CraigT said :

howeph said :

Hi Bundah,

First I want to apologise. I was dismayed and frustrated by the comments about asylum seekers and refugees in another thread.

Are you dismayed about the fact that 75% of asylum-seekers are still on welfare 4 years after arriving here?

I know I am. What an utter waste of money.

And it is welfare of grand proportions with up to 3 wives and 30 children in one family.

Source?

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/growing-number-of-muslim-men-and-multiple-wives-exploiting-loophoole-for-taxpayer-handouts/story-e6frf7jo-1225837150560

herald sun? that august journal of truth? ha ha ha…

and this government wants to introduce bridging visas for asylum seekers, meaning they would not be entitled to work for up to five years; so what alternative will they have than to resort to welfare? stop defending inhumane stupidity.

oh, and back on topic, reports today from bom and others suggest co2 levels in the atmosphere are the highest for some two million years. explain that one.

Why dont you read the article which reports the following:
“But Islamic Women’s Welfare Council of Victoria director Joumanah El Matrah said some men were exploiting Australia…….”.
The matter of introducing bridging visas may become academic because in case you haven’t noticed we have a new government who have effectively “stopped the boats”.

Re the latest fix for the hand-wringing climate alarmists from the BOM and others (the former being unable to even predict reliable day to day weather forecasts), can you send me the records from 2 million years ago and the names of the people who recorded them at that time?

How about you hand me the direct evidence of Moses parting the Red Sea complete with birth certificates and graphs? That was a mere few thousand years ago or so and well within your believed record of human events, if your other Christian inclined posts are to go by (nothing against as such).

Or is it one rule for scientists and another for the “believers” as you like to call warmists?

Or would you prefer to have a dialogue of a biblical nature?

At least the Moses event was chronicled. I don’t believe they had “birth certificates” in those days.
I can’t see the point you are trying to make though unless you are saying the parting of the Red Sea was caused by climate change. You ask for direct evidence of this; well I doubt if there is as at that time there wasn’t access to cameras and such. By the same principle, there is no way BOM, CSIRO and the other climate scaremongers can prove what Co2 levels were 2 million years ago. They want everyone to believe they can because their future funding depends on it.
Also, there is no evidence to support the theory that increased levels of Co2 are alone causing the climate to change.
Climate change is a natural occurrence as far as I am concerned.

No, I wasn’t suggesting the parting of the Red Sea was caused by climate change, not quite my intention, as such. (I suppose technically that event was caused by fleeing refugees…).

It was more like an attempt to discern what differentiates one belief system from another, and what underpins that. Never mind.

You make a good point about “what caused the parting of the Red Sea”. It was, according to the story, it was fleeing refugees getting a leg-up from divine intervention, as you suggest.
Many years ago I saw the re-creation of this event at Universal Studios. The set was used for one of those Hollywood biblical sagas – I think it was Moses played by Charlton Heston. Was impressive.
You might like to remind us of what religious faith the refugees were.

Re the matter of why there are different beliefs about certain issues, we are all reared differently and parents shape our futures until we learn to think for ourselves. In some cultures, parents raise their children to become martys for the cause. This guarantees that there will be no peaceful coexistence for the next 100 years at least.

You went to Universal Studios? Did you do the bus tour and spit-ball the various hollywood residences? Heheh. (Surely someone’s tried it?)

Well, as for the biblical refugees, that answer is well known. They were of precisely the same kind as your Prince of Peace, as were his parents, and a good half of The Book.

I agree, with some caveats perhaps but more or less, that if people (parents or anyone else) bring up martyrs, that does not always bode so well. A better means seems warranted. Interesting thoughts at any rate.

Nylex_Clock Nylex_Clock 1:09 pm 06 Mar 14

dungfungus said :

It is not necessary to get serious about a problem that doesn’t exist.

The problem *does* exist, as evidenced by the fact that NASA, CSIRO, and every science academy in the world says it does.

It’s just you and your kook-blogs on the “No” corner, dungy.

dungfungus dungfungus 11:54 am 06 Mar 14

astrojax said :

dungfungus said :

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

Holeeeeee sheeeeeeeeettttt

Dungfungus doesn’t believe in climate change but does believe that a moses parted the Red Sea way back when…

lolololol

I never said I beleieve that Moses parted the Red Sea – I said it was chronicled.

^ this, but you want us to take anything you allege about climate matters seriously? seriously?? just stop posting now. seriously.

It is not necessary to get serious about a problem that doesn’t exist.

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