6 September 2013

Burnout legend on the run in Gordon

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A 20-year-old Gordon man will be summonsed to ACT Magistrates Court on multiple traffic charges after an incident in Gordon early this morning (Friday, 6 September).

About 1.30am Police observed a dark-coloured Holden Commodore utility perform a prolonged burnout at the roundabout intersection of Woodcock Drive and Knoke Avenue.

Police activated their emergency lights and sirens in an attempt to cause the vehicle to stop. The driver accelerated away on Woodcock Drive.

After about thirty seconds, the driver stopped the vehicle in a driveway. Both the driver and passenger fled on foot. Both men were taken into custody with the passenger released a short time later.

The driver was transported to Tuggeranong Police Station where he was required to undergo breath analysis. He returned a Blood Alcohol Concentration (BAC) of 0.092.

As the holder of an expired licence he was issued with an Immediate Suspension Notice (ISN).

The vehicle has been seized by police. The man will face court on a date yet be fixed.

[Courtesy ACT Policing]

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Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

CoffinRX2 said :

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

CoffinRX2 said :

Crush it?

DO you really think (not withstanding his expired licence) that a burnout warrants someones personal possession to be destroyed?

I cannot believe the thought process of some people

Actually, I think morons who do burnouts should be locked away for attempted murder.

Why? .. there are 8-10 competitions around Australia specifically for burnouts, .. where you can win between $10000-$50000 for being the winner. …. while skids arent my thing, thats more money and crowd viewing pleasure (eg at the summernats) than any of the motorpsort events I enter and compete it.

PS what the fuck makes you think a burnout is “attempted murder” ….. so if you were in the wet, and had a sustained loss of traction taking off from a set of lights, … that makes you an attempted murderer too?

You don’t seem you understand the difference between a burnout competition and driving down a public road.

You also don’t seem to understand the difference between legal and illegal.

You don’t get insurance incase some bell end may be doing a burnout and hit your car.
You don’t seem to understand insurance.

Go educate yourself before commenting again.

I vote someone crushes Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd…. i’ve never seen someone so blind and arrogant.

CoffinRX2 said :

Woody Mann-Caruso said :

DO you really think (not withstanding his expired licence) that a burnout warrants someones personal possession to be destroyed?

Yes. – Why? … Drink drivers dont have cars crushed, people exceeding the speed limit by 45kph and over dont have their possessions taken from them and crushed?

I cannot believe the thought process of some people

I know, right?

… how would you like it if you broke some law, and the crown came and took your stuff and crushed it?

I wouldn’t like it. Isn’t that the point? If people want to do brain dead activities like burnouts (each to their own – I don’t have a problem with it IF it’s legal), they can go to comps (as you’ve mentioned). Don’t do it on the streets.

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd12:03 pm 09 Sep 13

CoffinRX2 said :

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

CoffinRX2 said :

Crush it?

DO you really think (not withstanding his expired licence) that a burnout warrants someones personal possession to be destroyed?

I cannot believe the thought process of some people

Actually, I think morons who do burnouts should be locked away for attempted murder.

Why? .. there are 8-10 competitions around Australia specifically for burnouts, .. where you can win between $10000-$50000 for being the winner. …. while skids arent my thing, thats more money and crowd viewing pleasure (eg at the summernats) than any of the motorpsort events I enter and compete it.

PS what the fuck makes you think a burnout is “attempted murder” ….. so if you were in the wet, and had a sustained loss of traction taking off from a set of lights, … that makes you an attempted murderer too?

You don’t seem you understand the difference between a burnout competition and driving down a public road.

You also don’t seem to understand the difference between legal and illegal.

You don’t get insurance incase some bell end may be doing a burnout and hit your car.
You don’t seem to understand insurance.

Go educate yourself before commenting again.

Instant Mash11:54 am 09 Sep 13

CoffinRX2 said :

Why? .. there are 8-10 competitions around Australia specifically for burnouts, .. where you can win between $10000-$50000 for being the winner. …. while skids arent my thing, thats more money and crowd viewing pleasure (eg at the summernats) than any of the motorpsort events I enter and compete it.

PS what the fuck makes you think a burnout is “attempted murder” ….. so if you were in the wet, and had a sustained loss of traction taking off from a set of lights, … that makes you an attempted murderer too?

So what’s the problem? If you’re that desperate to do a burnout and impress your friends, do it somewhere that isn’t a public road and you won’t have to worry about the police raining on your parade.

I’m all for the crushing. He was above the limit AND his license was already suspended, therefore it’s obviously not the first time he’s tried it. On top of that, he attempted to flee… To me, that just screams that he’s unfit to drive responsibly.

If you can’t do the time, don’t do the crime.

Woody Mann-Caruso11:40 am 09 Sep 13

… how would you like it if you broke some law, and the crown came and took your stuff and crushed it?

I try really hard not to break laws. If I do, I should pay the price agreed by society and reflected in legislation. I mean, I’m pretty sure if I broke the law with a weapon, or a computer, or a crowbar, they wouldn’t be waiting for me when I got out.

Or are you suggesting that asking criminals “how would you like it?” is a rational basis for a justice system? “Actually, that would make me sad.” “Oh, well we won’t do it, then. Carry on.”

Next time the Police catch someone stealing, let’s crush their hands.

Yes, that’s exactly the same thing.

Personally, I think a burnout (considered as an isolated concept, without considering location, nearby people etc) is treated in a completely disproportionate way to many other things which are dangerous while driving. Compare the points/fine for running a red light or driving an un-roadworthy vehicle.

On the other hand, driving while drunk and unlicensed, in combination, should be a “very serious thing™”, and I really think things like vehicle crushing might actually make people like this think twice about going for what was probably an unnecessary, spur of the moment, joy ride.

thebrownstreak699:54 am 09 Sep 13

Next time the Police catch someone stealing, let’s crush their hands.

Rawhide Kid Part39:36 am 09 Sep 13

CoffinRX2 said :

Woody Mann-Caruso said :

DO you really think (not withstanding his expired licence) that a burnout warrants someones personal possession to be destroyed?

Yes. – Why? … Drink drivers dont have cars crushed, people exceeding the speed limit by 45kph and over dont have their possessions taken from them and crushed?

I cannot believe the thought process of some people

I know, right?

… how would you like it if you broke some law, and the crown came and took your stuff and crushed it?

That’s why we don’t break the law by doing burnouts while drunk and without a licence to drive any way. If I wanted to do burnouts, I would do it where its legal to do so like Summernats or other organized competitions around the country.

Woody Mann-Caruso said :

DO you really think (not withstanding his expired licence) that a burnout warrants someones personal possession to be destroyed?

Yes. – Why? … Drink drivers dont have cars crushed, people exceeding the speed limit by 45kph and over dont have their possessions taken from them and crushed?

I cannot believe the thought process of some people

I know, right?

… how would you like it if you broke some law, and the crown came and took your stuff and crushed it?

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

CoffinRX2 said :

Crush it?

DO you really think (not withstanding his expired licence) that a burnout warrants someones personal possession to be destroyed?

I cannot believe the thought process of some people

Actually, I think morons who do burnouts should be locked away for attempted murder.

Why? .. there are 8-10 competitions around Australia specifically for burnouts, .. where you can win between $10000-$50000 for being the winner. …. while skids arent my thing, thats more money and crowd viewing pleasure (eg at the summernats) than any of the motorpsort events I enter and compete it.

PS what the fuck makes you think a burnout is “attempted murder” ….. so if you were in the wet, and had a sustained loss of traction taking off from a set of lights, … that makes you an attempted murderer too?

You’re acting like a burnout is like burning people at the stake, … its not like he was belting through a school zone at 180kph (which wouldn’t get your car crushed)

One guy chucking hoops isnt going to make the world implode ffs. …. I dont have kids, but if he crashed into my car, thats why I have insurance.

LSWCHP said :

CoffinRX2 said :

Crush it?

DO you really think (not withstanding his expired licence) that a burnout warrants someones personal possession to be destroyed?

I cannot believe the thought process of some people

Well, he’s a 20 year old tosser. And he was drunk. While he was drunk he engaged in dangerous behavior on the road. While doing this dangerous drunken young tosser stuff, he was also unlicensed, and hence he was uninsured so that if he injured a third party it’s their tuff shit.

I don’t want dangerous drunken young unlicenced tossers with no self control on the road with me. Such people are a threat to me and my wife and my kids, and all the other decent normal people in Canberra. So if the state chose to impound and destroy his vehicle, I’d be in the enormous crowd with CGN cheering them on.

And if you think the property rights of arsehats like this take precedence over the wellbeing of the rest of the community, then I reckon you should spend a long time reflecting on how you’d feel if that bloke had lost control of his vehicle and, for example, crashed into you and killed your baby son while doing his stupid senseless bloody burnout.

Primal said :

RadioVK said :

Primal said :

Why would you crush cars when you can auction the roadworthy ones off and make back some of the cost of dealing with these idiots?

Good question. I’d imagine it would be:
A. So the ex owner doesn’t get one of his mates to bid for it on his behalf.
B. So the ex owner doesn’t track down the buyer and offer to but it back (with or with out an “or else” clause).
C. They get to feel the pain of knowing that, not only have they lost their car, but it’s going to end up crushed into a cube.

The second one I will grant you (outside chance though it might be), but given that there’s separate fines/sentencing involved, if the ex-owner is willing to then also pay market price to rebuy their car, is that such a bad thing? It effectively throws in another fine equivalent to the cost of the car. That sounds like a great thing to me.

That sounds like a good idea, but it depends on what your aiming to achieve with the whole exercise.

If you just want to impose a financial penalty, then it’s great. But if you’re looking to impose a deeper, more personal penalty, you can’t beat turning their pride and joy into a cube. Knowing that their beloved car is gone forever might just sink in.

The crushing thing is symbolic – for these microencephalatic dickheads, their car is (possibly the major) part of their identity. I think that they should be made to watch the crushing, just to get the point across. These guys are not rocket surgeons – the subtle approach is wasted on them.

Primal said :

Why would you crush cars when you can auction the roadworthy ones off and make back some of the cost of dealing with these idiots?

auction them all off, not just the roadworthy ones I would love to buy a cheap illegally modified car that is unfit for road use instead of buying stat writeoffs at auctions to build my speedway cars out of.

RadioVK said :

Primal said :

Why would you crush cars when you can auction the roadworthy ones off and make back some of the cost of dealing with these idiots?

Good question. I’d imagine it would be:
A. So the ex owner doesn’t get one of his mates to bid for it on his behalf.
B. So the ex owner doesn’t track down the buyer and offer to but it back (with or with out an “or else” clause).
C. They get to feel the pain of knowing that, not only have they lost their car, but it’s going to end up crushed into a cube.

The second one I will grant you (outside chance though it might be), but given that there’s separate fines/sentencing involved, if the ex-owner is willing to then also pay market price to rebuy their car, is that such a bad thing? It effectively throws in another fine equivalent to the cost of the car. That sounds like a great thing to me.

Woody Mann-Caruso12:38 pm 07 Sep 13

DO you really think (not withstanding his expired licence) that a burnout warrants someones personal possession to be destroyed?

Yes.

I cannot believe the thought process of some people

I know, right?

*buy* it back…

Primal said :

Why would you crush cars when you can auction the roadworthy ones off and make back some of the cost of dealing with these idiots?

Good question. I’d imagine it would be:
A. So the ex owner doesn’t get one of his mates to bid for it on his behalf.
B. So the ex owner doesn’t track down the buyer and offer to but it back (with or with out an “or else” clause).
C. They get to feel the pain of knowing that, not only have they lost their car, but it’s going to end up crushed into a cube.

Rawhide Kid Part311:50 am 07 Sep 13

Primal said :

Why would you crush cars when you can auction the roadworthy ones off and make back some of the cost of dealing with these idiots?

As long as theres no way the offender has a way of getting his car back through family or friends.

Primal said :

Why would you crush cars when you can auction the roadworthy ones off and make back some of the cost of dealing with these idiots?

Yep, better to recoup costs from seized assets.

Why would you crush cars when you can auction the roadworthy ones off and make back some of the cost of dealing with these idiots?

wildturkeycanoe7:38 am 07 Sep 13

“The man will face court on a date yet be fixed.”
Why are there so many broken dates? Just pick one that works….

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd11:46 pm 06 Sep 13

CoffinRX2 said :

Crush it?

DO you really think (not withstanding his expired licence) that a burnout warrants someones personal possession to be destroyed?

I cannot believe the thought process of some people

Actually, I think morons who do burnouts should be locked away for attempted murder.

CoffinRX2 said :

Crush it?

DO you really think (not withstanding his expired licence) that a burnout warrants someones personal possession to be destroyed?

I cannot believe the thought process of some people

Please believe it,this is society talking.

Hopefully someone gets how simple it is.

The guy has no respect for the laws.
He will keep on driving.
Take away his ability to drive (car) OR
Take away his freedom

CoffinRX2 said :

Crush it?

DO you really think (not withstanding his expired licence) that a burnout warrants someones personal possession to be destroyed?

I cannot believe the thought process of some people

This from 2010. There was a halt to proceedings but a few days ago the SA govt gave the go ahead to crush cars after a court decision. Better believe that thought process.
http://news.theage.com.au/breaking-news-national/sa-police-given-power-to-crush-hoon-cars-20100214-nyz7.html

CoffinRX2 said :

Crush it?

DO you really think (not withstanding his expired licence) that a burnout warrants someones personal possession to be destroyed?

I cannot believe the thought process of some people

Well, he’s a 20 year old tosser. And he was drunk. While he was drunk he engaged in dangerous behavior on the road. While doing this dangerous drunken young tosser stuff, he was also unlicensed, and hence he was uninsured so that if he injured a third party it’s their tuff shit.

I don’t want dangerous drunken young unlicenced tossers with no self control on the road with me. Such people are a threat to me and my wife and my kids, and all the other decent normal people in Canberra. So if the state chose to impound and destroy his vehicle, I’d be in the enormous crowd with CGN cheering them on.

And if you think the property rights of arsehats like this take precedence over the wellbeing of the rest of the community, then I reckon you should spend a long time reflecting on how you’d feel if that bloke had lost control of his vehicle and, for example, crashed into you and killed your baby son while doing his stupid senseless bloody burnout.

Crush it?

DO you really think (not withstanding his expired licence) that a burnout warrants someones personal possession to be destroyed?

I cannot believe the thought process of some people

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd5:57 pm 06 Sep 13

Crush it

Doing burn outs in front of Police. Now, that is a bit of special!

Doing burnouts while unlicenced. What a genius level intellect.

And as for…..”As the holder of an expired licence he was issued with an Immediate Suspension Notice (ISN).”

I interpret this to mean that because he was officially prohibited from driving (due to having an expired licence), he has now been given an ISN which means he is officially prohibited from driving.

I imagine that after receiving the ISN, he went back to his car, hopped in and drove off because that’s what these idiots do. And in a few months time he’ll be picked up again for doing burnouts while drunk unlicenced and suspended.

Rawhide Kid Part32:19 pm 06 Sep 13

Crush the Car!!

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