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Dog friendly cafes in Kingston and Manuka?

By BundahBoy 16 August 2011 33

I’m searching for recommendations for the best dog friendly cafe’s in the inner south?

I went to Kingston Grinders today and got the impression they didnt want dogs there (refused to give me an old container for water, got snooty when I asked for an empty take away coffee cup…I mean WTF?).

It made me realise that perhaps I live in a dog friendly utopia as I thought EVERYONE liked dogs, especially mine.

Suggestions appreciated.

Cheers,

BundahBoy

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braddonboy 9:54 am 17 Aug 11

A food preparation or eating area anywhere, including in your home, is no place for an animal…especially around Canberra where hydatids can be an issue.

Baldy 9:24 am 17 Aug 11

Hi Sirco and others interested.

Sorry I should have expanded further on my last commet here. The line in the ACT law that states: 27 Compliance with food standards code
(1) A person must comply with any requirement imposed on the person
by the food standards code in relation to—
(a) the conduct of a food business; or
(b) food intended for sale; or
(c) food for sale.
Maximum penalty: 500 penalty units.

in particulary refers to the following standard in teh Australian and New Zealand food standards.

Standard 3.2.2
Food Safety Practices and General Requirements
Division 6 – Miscellaneous
24 Animals and pests
(1) A food business must –
(a) subject to paragraph (b), not permit live animals in areas in which food is handled, other than seafood or other fish or shellfish;
(b) permit an assistance animal only in dining and drinking areas and other areas used by customers;
(c) take all practicable measures to prevent pests entering the food premises; and
(d) take all practicable measures to eradicate and prevent the harbourage of pests on the food premises and those parts of vehicles that are used to transport food.

(2) In subclause (1), ‘assistance animal’ means an animal referred to in section 9 of the Disability Discrimination Act 1992 of the Commonwealth.

So it is actually illegal for cafe’s, outdoor seating or not, to serve people who have animals unless the animal is a dedicated assisstant animal.

Once again I should have posted all the information. Will do so in teh future.

Jethro 9:07 pm 16 Aug 11

Many many years ago on a trip to London I noticed that many suburban pubs had pub dogs that were owned by the governor and basically spent their days hanging out inside the pub.
It was nice.

breda 8:58 pm 16 Aug 11

I all my years of reading stuff on the internet, I have never come across a single dog owner with a badly behaved dog. It seems that the way to establish whether a dog is well behaved is to find out if the owner has an internet connection. Spooky, eh?

I don’t mind a dog that sits or lies quietly out of the way while the owner has a coffee or a snack. But, having had a full-fledged fight happen a few feet from where I was eating, seen owners offer dogs scraps on cafe crockery, put up with barking, whining, accosting passers-by and restless wandering around (all from dogs which are obviously owned by people who don’t have the internet), no thanks.

Agree that the cafe that welcomes dog owners and people with small children is doing the rest of us a great service, if they all go there.

Thumper 8:31 pm 16 Aug 11

Such a pity, in England dogs are allowed in pubs. It’s just lovely.

mouthface 8:29 pm 16 Aug 11

So nobody says you have to like it, but cafes and restaurants are actually not permitted by law to allow animals into food service areas, including outdoor areas. The KG people – like them or hate them – should have actually asked you to move on, and no, not everybody likes your dog!

mouthface 8:21 pm 16 Aug 11

This issue has come up before, and dear leader JB got the mail from the health people last year:

“Dear Mr Griffiths

Thank you for your enquiry to ACT Health.

The laws concerning the presence of animals in food premises have not
changed. Under clause 24 of Standard 3.2.2 of the Australia New
Zealand Food Standards Code, animals other than assistance animals are
not permitted in dining and drinking areas and other areas used by
customers. These areas include a food premises and any associated
outdoor dining areas.

The Health Protection Service (HPS) of ACT Health has not changed its
approach to this issue, which is treated as any other food safety issue.
The HPS has not planned any “crack down on dogs in the outdoor areas of
cafes”.

Thank you again for your enquiry.

Regards

HPS”

So the er you have it!

LisaACT 7:18 pm 16 Aug 11

I am very familiar with Kingston Grind cafe and am also the owner of a dog. You definitely picked the wrong cafe to sit with your dog!!! They do not like animals at all and yes you will get a very cold shoulder. Then again, the owners never have a smile on their faces dog or no dog! They are so rude and don’t even acknowledge your existence as a human, let alone a dog! But to their defence my understanding is that dogs are not allowed to be in outside eating areas of cafes/restaurants in the ACT. It is a bylaw and the cafe/restaurant can be fined by council if they are found to be in breach of this bylaw.

justin heywood 7:14 pm 16 Aug 11

qbngeek said :

Why can’t we have some tosser free eating areas where we don’t have to listen to pretentious morons talk about how good they are and how everyone else is wrong/bogan/trash?

Tosser-free dining? Be a pretty quiet place here in Canberra.

Honestly people. If an eating establishment doesn’t want to serve your dog, take the hint. What if pet pigs suddenly become trendy? Pigs are friendly and generally smarter than dogs. So if I adopt a pig, I assume no dog-lover here will object to eating beside him. (?)

sirocco 5:49 pm 16 Aug 11

Baldy said :

sarahsarah

sarahsarah said :

I thought there where regulations about this that disallow people from bringing their dogs (except guide dogs of course) to cafes? Maybe that’s why they were cheesed off? I’m sure that the owner of both the dog and cafe are liable to be fined if they are caught. I could be remembering this wrong though.

There are. According to the ACT Food act 2001 it is actually illegal for Resturants and Cafe to allow pets in food serving areas unless they are required (e.g blind guide dogs).

Here is a link to the ACT -> http://www.legislation.act.gov.au/a/2001-66/default.asp

The relevent bit is in Division 3.3 (27) Compliance with food standards code.

I’m actually curious about this and not having a go but I couldn’t find anything to do with dogs specifically in that section of the Act.

All I got was this:

In the ToC:

“Division 3.3 Other offences relating to food…
…27 Compliance with food standards code 17”

then on page 17:

“27 Compliance with food standards code
(1) A person must comply with any requirement imposed on the person
by the food standards code in relation to—
(a) the conduct of a food business; or
(b) food intended for sale; or
(c) food for sale.
Maximum penalty: 500 penalty units.
(2) A person must not sell food that does not comply with a requirement
of the food standards code that relates to the food.
Maximum penalty: 500 penalty units.
(3) A person must not sell or advertise food that is packaged or labelled
in a way that contravenes the food standards code.
Maximum penalty: 500 penalty units.
(4) A person must not sell or advertise for sale food in a way that
contravenes the food standards code.
Maximum penalty: 500 penalty units.”

Where else does it state that dogs (or any other pet) aren’t allowed in the outdoor areas of cafes in Canberra?

Baldy 1:47 pm 16 Aug 11

sarahsarah

sarahsarah said :

I thought there where regulations about this that disallow people from bringing their dogs (except guide dogs of course) to cafes? Maybe that’s why they were cheesed off? I’m sure that the owner of both the dog and cafe are liable to be fined if they are caught. I could be remembering this wrong though.

There are. According to the ACT Food act 2001 it is actually illegal for Resturants and Cafe to allow pets in food serving areas unless they are required (e.g blind guide dogs).

Here is a link to the ACT -> http://www.legislation.act.gov.au/a/2001-66/default.asp

The relevent bit is in Division 3.3 (27) Compliance with food standards code.

dpm 12:54 pm 16 Aug 11

EvanJames said :

…Dogs, incidentally, have no effect on the peace and quiet…

Sometimes when you get more than one dog in one place, there is a dog fight (surprise, surprise!). I’ve seen it a few times at cafes. The last time was at Yarralumblaa a few months ago….
So, it’s not always sunshine and lollipops with dogs congregated together.
Then, I suppose you could say it has to be ‘well trainined’ dogs, but that same logic would then apply to kids?!? Who decides who’s dog/kid is well trained? Gee, life is getting complicated again!!! 🙂

qbngeek 12:53 pm 16 Aug 11

EvanJames said :

Dogs, incidentally, have no effect on the peace and quiet.

BWAHAHAHAHA…..

Do you actually read the rubbish you post?? I have two English Mastiffs that I am happy to bring around to your place. They bark on command. Trust me they will have an effect on your peace and quiet, plus they can leave your ears ringing for a few hours afterwards if you get too close when they bark.

My stepmother is a dog trainer and handler so my dogs are exceptionally well trained and are too lazy to bother barking unless I tell them too (they are too lazy to do anything unless told). I can only imagine what a poorly trained little yappy ball of energy would be like if it got started in public.

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