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By all_stars 8 April 2010 81

I am still fairly new to Canberra having moved from NSW and am curious about the public housing system.

Is this an ACT only thing where housing commission rentals are placed among normal full price paying individuals?

It certainly makes it hard when trying to move, there is no suburb to stay away from it seems to be a case of trial and error with the neighbours. I’ve tried asking the real estate agents when we were looking at rental properties however they don’t seem to know if the house is surrounded by housing commission, or they simply won’t tell me for fear of not being able to lease the property.

I am wondering if the ACT Government has integrated housing commission like this in an effort to remove “bad suburbs” or if they just don’t realise other states do things differently?


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Cicero 1:00 pm 17 May 15

I am convinced that given the intolerable state of ACT housing and the travesty we must live under, that tenants is some of the “Ghetto” blocks and Lots have a majoe plaintive action legal case against the government, duty of care and otherwise.We pay rent for these torture chamber Ghettos they make.These places are dangerous in the extreme, let alone the constant mental hardship and stress living here.
ACT Housing has caused my chronic depression, and I have no clinical history of a chemical imbalance causing the disease.

Cicero 12:49 pm 17 May 15

Its this simple.ACT public Housing is a living hell unless you want to join the criminals.
The people actually with children in this block I feel terriblely for. This was a good block of unit for a months then housing knowingly places a flat full of active Heroin addicts fresh from prison directly opposite a 9 year old girls flat. Then this guy, not satidfied with just dealing Heroin, pyramid sublets his flat for the extra income to other criminals so now there is a constant traffic of the great unwashed in dire need of narcotics in and out all day and night in what was once a half decent place to live.
Its unbelievable. Housing know, the Police know, the Polititicains know.I have seen them emailed with the factual data by 3 different parties over 6 times, and yet 2 years later the drug pedlars are doing a roaring trade, and the dent folk trying to just quietly get one with life are intimidated into silence.
Jail is safer than ACT public housing based on the protective custody act alone.
ACT public housing is hell.

Cicero 12:34 pm 17 May 15

About 1997 it was clear my trade would be made redundant by computer operated robot technology replacing my trade.
The lost income destroyed my family due to financial problems so when my mercenary American partner finally enforced a split, I was forced to take a Government Housing option in the ACT. Despite all of the noble intent of those furnishing Housing ACT, this is the greatest mistake in my entire life.
From day one, I have been plagued by misanthropic psychopaths I have been forced to endure. You see you have no input what so ever regarding what kind of criminal misfits you have jammed right next to you in Flat block accomodation, and since all the actual Houses were sold off by Politicians about the reign of Kate Carnell and the Kingston Waterfront fiasco, that is all that is left. A sincere and ardent policy of Ghetto manufacture.
In my efforts to one; terminate the dog attacks, two; limit misanthropic inconsiderate and criminal behaviour, and three; keep hard drug users and peddlars away from my immediate perimeter. I received pleasant but insincere verbals of support and aid that never eventuated in any change what so ever. Actions speak louder than words. Even a murder will say “no I’m not going to harm you” to keep the peace until they get a profitable chance to run you through with a bread knife. So when I dared to state and ask that all that concuring dialogue was just dandy but what are you actually doing? as six months down the track, Witennesed Factual evidence, not hear say, that so hould have guaranteed a rise in morale and living conditions the habits of actively addicted heroin addicts had so successfully degenerated were still as active as ever, and life in the block pretty well unbareable, and quite literally physically dangerous, they became more than useless but actually proactively troublesome.
To the point, that I am convinced drugs the turning of Government housing into Ghettos are in fact Government policy; and my efforts have not been restricted to Housing alone.
Forget what these people say and watch what they do, and consider that Heroin is worth near 10 times the value of Gold.
This war on drugs, that with decriminalisation and a 5 dollar a day program akin to Methadone now whilst maintaining the supply penaties would remove the profit and thus importation incentives over night. But no. It feeds the Crown Temples legal monster.A monster that has nothing to do with Justice but MONEY.
They could stop drugs overnight if they wanted.I know I could, but they do not want to and will present the same old lies over and over to prohibit their cash cow heroin, that fill the bubble the inflation come compound interest scam leaves.
No , peaceful drug free residences do not feed the machine.
You see, we are in fact ruled by outright psychopaths.Make no mistake.
I empathise with the RAAF man below.I have lived it too.
Public housing is a pityful joke that is slowly killing me with stress.
Even when handed the details of illegal activity on a platter nothing is done,except possiblely to the whistle blowing party. I have witnessed it on 3 occasions.
Instead of ACT public housing being an aid to help me retrain and re-enter the work force with a new skill, I have got sicker and sicker with depresssion from living in a living hell.
And for anyone that has lived through this, I believe proudtenant’s “Whitefile” theory of people that strive to fix things by furnishing information of illegal and antisocial activity DO actually become the targets of a sublime and spiteful silencing mandate for surpassing mere complacency is very real indeed.

mickos 4:46 am 30 Dec 12

I’ve lived in stuart flats for the last four years & its absolutley shocking how much run the criminals & junkies have over this cesspit, the Cops and housing couldn’t care less its a place where law and order doesn’t exist its every decent tenant for themselves.
I no longer work because i won’t subsidise drug addict scum who refuse to respect what they take for granted, accomodation in this prime area. In fact the government rental rebate scheme only serves to encourage staying on the dole. No wonder the unemployment rate in this part of one of australias wealthiest suburbs is over 90%. Coupled with canberra’s pathetic criminal justice system one can never feel safe here. After being smashed across the face with a. Bottle by an offender with other assault matters outstanding, the person was bailed 3 more times before being charged with the ABH matter on myself some six months later. The police are full of prejudice, telling lies and housings’ only mission is to protect the rights and tenancies of the guilty druggos.

wooster 10:27 pm 04 Sep 11

seanneko said :

jayskette said :

I’m moving to a new suburb next weekend, but sadly after reading the comments on here, it looks like it may just be more of the same. I guess the solution is to leave Canberra and go live somewhere else again – not that that’s necessarily a bad thing…

Oh dont be disheartened with Canberra’s own brand of disincentivising socialism.

Todd Flanders: “Daddy, what do taxes pay for?”
Ned Flanders: “Oh, why, everything! Policemen, trees, sunshine! And let’s not forget the folks who just don’t feel like working, God bless ’em!”

seanneko 8:23 pm 04 Sep 11

jayskette said :

Thanks OP for bringing this to light.
1) I also came from Sydney/Newcastle and have for awhile wondered how there could be some people living in my area that really do not look like they can pay the market rent here ($350-400/wk for 2 bedroom townhouses).

Same here, although replace Sydney with Melbourne.

I searched Google for Canberra commission housing and came across this post. I’ve long since wondered how many of the people in my apartment building could afford to live here. A single week of rent would be more than what some of their cars are worth, and I suspect that some of them are not familiar with the concept of showers or washing machines. Now it all makes sense though…

Why exactly do I go off to work every day when these people are being given the same things I have but subsidised by tax payers? Seriously. I understand why we have public housing and the negative impact on society that people living in alleyways would have, blah blah. But what incentive is there for me to work hard and pay my overpriced rent when some filthy bogan is basically given the same thing for a fraction of what I pay? Maybe I should quit my job and go get a crappy part time job, looks like my lifestyle will be no worse off. In fact, it’ll be better because I’ll have more free time. Score!

I have witnessed people deliberately force the doors on the lift open, which broke the motor and caused the lift to be out of order for a number of weeks while replacement parts came from overseas. My car was broken into in the “secure” underground carpark, and others have actually had cars completely stolen. I’m sure everyone is familiar with the other sorts of things that scum do, no need for me to write an essay here about it.

I’m moving to a new suburb next weekend, but sadly after reading the comments on here, it looks like it may just be more of the same. I guess the solution is to leave Canberra and go live somewhere else again – not that that’s necessarily a bad thing…

GardeningGirl 12:47 pm 02 Jul 11

Innovation said :

From personal experience, the worst thing that can be done is to concentrate public housing.

Seems that way.
I wonder what has changed? I wonder if anyone has researched what has changed? I grew up in a street full of those identical little guvvie houses and my relatives lived in guvvie houses and guvvie flats.

buzz819 12:43 pm 02 Jul 11

Damn.

Damn, Damn, Damn, Damn, Damn.

Now I have to say that I agree with Captn Raaf. Damn. Well, besides the whole cat killing thing, I know, they can be a nuisance and what not, I just have a soft spot for animals.

Now the neighbor’s, I feel a lot of pity when I hear stories such as these. Drive around Richardson, Chisholm, Kambah, Giralang, Kaleen, Evatt, McKellar etc. you see fantastic looking houses, well cared for lawns, great gardens, then you see the house with the cars parked out the front, the pile of garbage where the car port is, the kids are constantly covered in grime, not like normal, oh look at Johnny playing in the mud, the same shirt for the past week type of grime.

I don’t feel sorry for the people who are in those places, nine times out of ten when you walk in you see the bong sitting on the table, dirty nappies on the ground, cigarette butts all over the place and take away containers from last nights dinner, not to mention the dog shit under the table.

People who own houses often work 40+ hours a week, they have kids in schools, kids who have extra curricula activities, so are tied up for long times on the weekends, they have pets, they eat food, some of them smoke weed, drink alcohol, some smoke cigarettes, but the honest, hard earning house owner finds the time to make sure their house is presentable, their animals aren’t ruining other peoples lives etc.

If you cant afford to buy a house, fair enough, if you have being given a public housing place because that is all you can afford, then I feel sorry for you and I know they aren’t the most maintained houses in the world, but keep it clean for god sake, you’re getting a roof over your head for not much money!

Watson 12:39 pm 02 Jul 11

Innovation said :

I hadn’t read this thread until now. I grew up in some of the worst areas of public housing (aka slums) in the UK and, later, better public housing in the ACT. As a home owner in the ACT I have had public housing tenants, private housing tenants and private home owners as neighbours. My nicest neighbours have included many public housing tenants. Generally I have been lucky but I have had (and still have) some bad/irritating experiences with some public housing tenants too. My worst experiences though have been private tenants of a rental property we owned once and a private home owner as a neighbour who seemed to have a vendetta against us.

From personal experience, the worst thing that can be done is to concentrate public housing. Most of these people want to do the right thing, and are often only there by misfortune or circumstance and the community around them will often pull together to provide a helping hand. Others learn what is acceptable behaviour (by example from their neighbours) or can be tolerated. The rest, I hope it’s closer to 1% than 10%, are only managed by active involvement by authorities and the community. I feel sorry for Captain RAAF but he is doing the right thing. Get evidence and complain, complain and complain.

I’ve lived near some neighbours from hell. Some were public housing tenants, some were private rental tenants. It may be harder to get the govvie housing tenants to move as it’s quite easy to evict the others if they overstep the line. But either way, they’re going to move on to somewhere else and make someone else’s lives hell. Personally, I think the most effective way to deal with it is to try and develop a friendly neighbour relationship with them, if possible. That will open the door to having an honest conversation about the issues. I do realise that this is not always possible though. Some of them are just total nutters, as I’ve experienced on a couple of occasions. I had one neighbour I was so scared of, I didn’t dare pass his house on his side of the street. I called the cops once when he had one of his episodes and I also dobbed him in with the RSPCA for beating his poor dog. I suspect he owned his house though.

The only concentrations of gov housing we get here in Canberra are the flats. And most of them become no-go zones pretty quickly unfortunately. This is not because all public housing tenants are alcoholics and druggies. But because the ones that are can usually only be housed in flats as the houses are reserved for families with kids. And it only takes a few bad apples…

Innovation 12:12 pm 02 Jul 11

I hadn’t read this thread until now. I grew up in some of the worst areas of public housing (aka slums) in the UK and, later, better public housing in the ACT. As a home owner in the ACT I have had public housing tenants, private housing tenants and private home owners as neighbours. My nicest neighbours have included many public housing tenants. Generally I have been lucky but I have had (and still have) some bad/irritating experiences with some public housing tenants too. My worst experiences though have been private tenants of a rental property we owned once and a private home owner as a neighbour who seemed to have a vendetta against us.

From personal experience, the worst thing that can be done is to concentrate public housing. Most of these people want to do the right thing, and are often only there by misfortune or circumstance and the community around them will often pull together to provide a helping hand. Others learn what is acceptable behaviour (by example from their neighbours) or can be tolerated. The rest, I hope it’s closer to 1% than 10%, are only managed by active involvement by authorities and the community. I feel sorry for Captain RAAF but he is doing the right thing. Get evidence and complain, complain and complain.

jayskette 10:12 pm 01 Jul 11

Thanks OP for bringing this to light.
1) I also came from Sydney/Newcastle and have for awhile wondered how there could be some people living in my area that really do not look like they can pay the market rent here ($350-400/wk for 2 bedroom townhouses).
2) I have met very decent, nice, quiet families that are responsible housekeepers and you will never ever guess they are govt housing tenants until they told me.
3) Having said that I am insanely jealous of a single man that pays only $20/week rent for his waterfront apartment.

Captain RAAF 3:24 pm 06 May 10

As a Defence Member, I have lived in quite a few houses (all Defence married quarters, therefore rentals) all over Australia. At no stage have I ever had any issues with my neighbors.

Now that we have purchased our own house, for the first time I live beside a ‘problem family’. Yes, they are housing commission and they represent the 10% that give the 90% a bad name.

Let me make it clear from the get go, I don’t care what any of you think in regards to my opinion or attitude towards these people. They are filth and that is all there is to it. There are 3 derelict cars parked on the front yard along with half a dozen, sometimes more, running cars, yes sometimes there are ten cars parked on the front lawn…I mean dirt!

They had a cat, which naturally, they let wander around the neighborhood. This cat soon became several cats. I have managed to kill most of them. We had a new colorbond fence put in, it was up for less than a month and they started kicking the panels in, these panels will soon be replaced at their cost due to my complaints. They throw rubbish over the fence, I photograph it and put it in a file for a future submission to the Dept, it will knock the Ministers socks off, their yard is a tip, their weeds stretch into my property but I just poison them so hard it kills trees up to a mile away!

I’ll cut a long story short, I WILL see these pigs gone from my neighborhood through a campaign of continual complaints to the authority and the ability to engender an impression in my neighbors that I am a man not to be messed with. I can and will look after myself and mine, but I do pity decent hard working people who are not as capable or confidant as I am. It has got to the stage that now, they avoid me though I am always happy to have a chat with their kids, who aren’t to blame….except when they throw rocks on my garage and I give them an earful.

All I can say is, if you have these pigs next to you, do not rest until they are gone. I do not accept any sob story on how hard their lives are because no matter your background, you should be able to keep a clean house and respect your neighbors. There are decent, respectful people in need of these houses, so keep up the fight until you get these people next to you.

For all of you do-gooders, don’t comment until you’ve had the worst of the worst next to you and have had to deal with the never ending scenarios that these people can concoct.

One 4:47 am 22 Apr 10

ProudTenant said :

botto said :

Does anyone know the waiting time in Woden area for a house? The Housing is so secretive abt the waiting times and the only waiting list they show is very general.

They used to show waiting times by type of accommodation and area. Now not anymore.

It depends of your needs and which level of urgency you have been assessed at. There are three levels. Standard – wait is a few years. High needs, probably about 12-18 months or so, and Priority, which generally means you are homeless, a victim of domestic violence in desperate need to get out of your current accommodation, in a refuge, or some similar circumstances, and those wait times can be about 3-4 months. It also depends on if you are waiting on a 1, 2, 3 or 4 bedroom property, your eligibility, and of course the vacancy rates.

I know for a fact that Housing ACT are knocking down old govvies on very large blocks, and building two brand new houses on the one block in one street here and there – no more cluster housing like years gone by (ala Kambah West and other suburbs). The stimulus package from the federal government allowed for some of this development.

If only those whose children have moved out, but who continue to live in a large 3 bedroom house with a football field as the backyard, would move to more appropriate accommodation, then families with real needs could be housed earlier. Unfortunately Housing ACT have no move-on powers so to speak and the life tenure rule is bloody ridiculous. Even Deb Foskey only succumbed to public pressure, but only after she finally realised that her $150,000 pa salary was enough to buy her own place or rent privately.

I hope something comes through for you.

Most of the information is FALSE!

Levels are:

Standard service = ACT Government Special of No Service

High needs = MANY YEARS of assult and abuse from the Stanope Social Housing Test cases that include well over 200 police visits a year for less than 100 people. High needs cases are an excuse for DHCS Housing officers to coverup the neglect that led to being a person being disabled while the pub up the road gives a nice secret donation to Mr Stanhopes political party of choice to maintain the soap box of single sided hate.

Woman = Anything you need

White File = DHCS Housing is able to kill this person for the good it does society – Anyone with a white file will be moved to the place with the highest chance of death could occur from drunken assult or community funded group bashings. Anyone that complains against an ACT Housing officer or the system gets a white file.

Ema Chizit 1:48 pm 20 Apr 10

you can get bad neighbours anywhere. you are steriotyping. Not all people living in public housing are bad just like not all people living in private accommidation are good. I have found that if you’re nice to people they will be nice to you. makes life easier. try it.

peterh 10:50 pm 14 Apr 10

There are families who are still living in emergency units, 2 bedders with 3 kids, whilst little old ladies with a thousand birds live in a 3 bedroom house in the suburbs. The conditions for ACT Government housing have improved. They tore down burnie court, the melba flats, sold of a lot of the wall in mawson, and moved a lot of tenants out into the burbs, or oaks estate. If the ACT government cannot find you accommodation, here comes the emergency accommodation – aka ainslie village.

The tenure rule needs to go. there are people deserving of a chance at their own place that are renting privately, without a pot to p1ss in. There needs to be some way to help them.

I have seen enough private renters – people who could afford to live in these rentals smashing holes in the walls, urinating on the carpet, cleaning engine parts on the lounge room floor, overcooking something on the hotplate and leaving it to burn out the pot, making the hotplate unusable, and leaving in the dead of the night, minus their bond, but making sure they left with their possessions and in some cases, the fixtures in the bathroom, the curtains and anything that isn’t nailed down, not to mention the copper piping if it isn’t too obvious.

as for whether you get good neighbors, it doesn’t matter whether they are private or public housing. some people are just plain wrong no matter where they are living. A great tactic is for real estate agents to show the properties when they know these people won’t be at home, mid morning, or just after lunch.

merlin bodega 10:18 pm 14 Apr 10

It is a shame that public housing has become such a negative thing for many people. Let’s remember here people that the aim is to provide secure and comfortable housing at a reasonable price for people. Properties are not extravagant and they are not generally in the best serviced or most desirable areas in terms of location to amenities and facilities. That this is generally provided by the Government and under highly restricted access is again another factor contributing to its lack of desirability.

An alternative is to provide a policy environment where co-operative and housing corporation (owned collectively by tenants) is developed to enable people to have some security over their housing, not over-invest or over-commit to the cost and provide enough flexibility to allow people to move from place to place at the same time, if they need or want to. Just think about a different world operating in a different way.

ProudTenant 6:51 pm 14 Apr 10

botto said :

Does anyone know the waiting time in Woden area for a house? The Housing is so secretive abt the waiting times and the only waiting list they show is very general.

They used to show waiting times by type of accommodation and area. Now not anymore.

It depends of your needs and which level of urgency you have been assessed at. There are three levels. Standard – wait is a few years. High needs, probably about 12-18 months or so, and Priority, which generally means you are homeless, a victim of domestic violence in desperate need to get out of your current accommodation, in a refuge, or some similar circumstances, and those wait times can be about 3-4 months. It also depends on if you are waiting on a 1, 2, 3 or 4 bedroom property, your eligibility, and of course the vacancy rates.

I know for a fact that Housing ACT are knocking down old govvies on very large blocks, and building two brand new houses on the one block in one street here and there – no more cluster housing like years gone by (ala Kambah West and other suburbs). The stimulus package from the federal government allowed for some of this development.

If only those whose children have moved out, but who continue to live in a large 3 bedroom house with a football field as the backyard, would move to more appropriate accommodation, then families with real needs could be housed earlier. Unfortunately Housing ACT have no move-on powers so to speak and the life tenure rule is bloody ridiculous. Even Deb Foskey only succumbed to public pressure, but only after she finally realised that her $150,000 pa salary was enough to buy her own place or rent privately.

I hope something comes through for you.

botto 1:03 pm 14 Apr 10

Does anyone know the waiting time in Woden area for a house? The Housing is so secretive abt the waiting times and the only waiting list they show is very general.

They used to show waiting times by type of accommodation and area. Now not anymore.

One 7:50 am 14 Apr 10

ProudTenant said :

To the OP

I am proud to say I am an ACT Public Housing tenant, and will rattle off a list of positives for you to absorb in that limited and judgmental brain of yours. In no particular order …

I pay my rent.

… blah… (Edited – cut short)

I don’t judge people, usually. 😉

Perhaps you should read this twice … you may learn something about housing tenants that you did not know. The fact that housing are helping me at this point in my life is something I respect.

Oh, and finally, I do not agree with the “life tenure” rule within ACT Housing. Do your research and you’ll know what I’m talking about.

I wish your neighbours all the luck in the world.

Thanks for reading.

ProudTenant

“I exercise”

I trust that you can leave your tenancy without the theat of death by drunks who police never arrest because it isn’t their fault they are drunk

You forgot the best thing.. a total lack of responsibility by DHCS Housing and its Ministers, Pigs who limit the law, Political parties that accept secret donations, and morons with an idea. Nothing beats getting up to physical abuse from a person Centerlink and DHCS Housing keeps employed for drinking 247 while betting on lotto – one ticket away from the big win – esp when the same person responsibile for the abuse is given keys to common areas, and pays thugs with favour for helping keeping their ‘good social housing’ all nice and quiet, plays loud music, etc.

With membership in a community – Taking it in turns to telephone the complaints desk at DHCS – is akin to stalking with ill intent. Tenants in these memberships also attempt to hold ownership (even without legal right) of an area through the use of criminal act, threatenings, or physical assult.

Also helps when they can get $1k for getting a person with dependance problems arrested – then again I hear that DHCS can help groups get a mental health order placed on anyone disliked – just claim they are anti-social; always works for DHCS. Bonus being that your community rep can apply for funding grants only your select group would use while other tenants are put on a shortlist of people that should be moved out of the area.

I so need to move.. lol
U sound like a dream neighbour

ProudTenant 7:23 pm 13 Apr 10

lucym – another slip. Post 59 was directed at the OP not you. My bad. My apologies.

Not attacking you at all. My posts have been quite tame and to the point actually. If you feel like I’ve attacked you personally, then perhaps you should re-read. I fail to see any attacks on you from anyone.

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